Wrestling Assignments Are Out!!

[Southburbs]

Here is the link.

http://www.ihsa.org/activity/wr/2008-09/3assign.htm

Quite a mix with the three class system.

[HardCore]

ouch! The West Aurora regional is loaded!!

[Jaguar]

That is downright UGLY! Rockford schools and St. Louis area schools in the same sectional as the Aurora area schools at Maine West. :eek:

[wrestle21]

That is downright UGLY! Rockford schools and St. Louis area schools in the same sectional as the Aurora area schools at Maine West. :eek:

Exactly my thought Jag... The Closest school in the Section to Maine South is still 45 minutes away! Not to mention Moline and Edwardsville/Granitecity..

The whole sectional will have to drive thru the whole Willowbrook/Leyden Sectional to get to their sectional site!

[Luvwrestling]

ouch! The West Aurora regional is loaded!!

Ouch is right! Where do they come up with this nonsense?

[fanofthemat]

By far the toughest sectional... wow.. Barrington is the easiest.... The other 2 are pretty equal...

[GreenUnderground]

complete nonsense....so many kids at the maine south sectional that should qualify but wont.

[Galactic]

Does not make sense that Maine South is hosting teams from Rockford and down south. Maine South is in the Mather Regional and Maine West is in the Elmhurst Regional. Must be an error.

[Snowsurf]

Also, Maine South is in the Leyden sectional.

[canttouchthis76]

The IHSA amazes me each year with their infinite wisdom...

[Ace]

Wow...IHSA nice work...messed up AAA and AA..

Maine South is Hosting a sectional they wont even be attending as is Lemont....Makes sense.:cool:

[Maximus]

ouch! The West Aurora regional is loaded!!

This might be the biggest understatement in the history of Illinois Matmen forums.

West Aurora regional = S-i-c-k!!!!:eek:

[kps2120]

Just to put how ridiculous these are, here's the ranked teams in the Maine South Sectional, based on today's rankings.

2. Providence
3. Minooka
5. West Aurora
7. Lockport
8. Plainfield Central
9. Neuqua Valley
10. Rockton Hononegah
15. Lincoln-Way Central
17. Granite City
18. Edwardsville
HM DeKalb
HM Joliet Township
HM Lincoln-Way East
HM Normal Community
HM O'Fallon

That's 15 teams out of 40 total ranked and HM teams, as well as 40 teams in that sectional. Wow. They really messed this up...

[crazyrunner1215]

Just to put how ridiculous these are, here's the ranked teams in the Maine South Sectional, based on today's rankings.

2. Providence
3. Minooka
5. West Aurora
7. Lockport
8. Plainfield Central
9. Neuqua Valley
10. Rockton Hononegah
15. Lincoln-Way Central
17. Granite City
18. Edwardsville
HM DeKalb
HM Joliet Township
HM Lincoln-Way East
HM Normal Community
HM O'Fallon

That's 15 teams out of 40 total ranked and HM teams, as well as 40 teams in that sectional. Wow. They really messed this up...

And if you look at the dual team sectionals, odds on you would have Providence against Minooka in the first round. One of the top 3 teams won't even have a shot at a trophy.

[Rebel]

#2 Jackstadt Edwardsville

#4 Warcynski Minooka

#7 Toton Plainfield Central

#10 Walsh Providence

#11 Bialka Lockport

#12 Treomel Normal Community

HM Pearlstrom W.Aurora

HM Fredrick Romeoville

HM Angel E. Moline

Interesting how other weights might look???

[HardCore]

Bravo IHSA!! You've done it again and unfairly loaded the one sectional. Why this should suprise any of us, I don't know, but it is rediculous!! I feel bad for the southern schools that are going to travel all that way only to get pounded by the likes of West Aurora, Nequa, Minooka...

[thunderstruck]

maybe they are just playing a joke on us and will have new fairer pairings. you never know with the IHSA

[popcornplayer]

why would you feel sorry for the southern teams they have had the easiest path to state for years let them pay their dues now and see what it has been like for years for some of the kids up north to try to make it to state!

[Ace]

You guys are still missing the biggest bone head move here....

Maine South is HOSTING AN INDIVIDUAL SECTIONAL....YET THEY ARE ACTUALLY WRESTLING AT THE LEYDEN SECTIONAL????

[thunderstruck]

You guys are still missing the biggest bone head move here....

Maine South is HOSTING AN INDIVIDUAL SECTIONAL....YET THEY ARE ACTUALLY WRESTLING AT THE LEYDEN SECTIONAL????

which is rather funny making this a great joke the IHSA has told

[Rebel]

How many wrestlers make out of each Regional?

[wrestle21]

You guys are still missing the biggest bone head move here....

Maine South is HOSTING AN INDIVIDUAL SECTIONAL....YET THEY ARE ACTUALLY WRESTLING AT THE LEYDEN SECTIONAL????

That is the First thing I noticed... Post #4.... Lockport is the Closest School to Main East and it is still 45 minutes to Park Ridge... The whole sectional will have to drive past LEYDEN'S Sectional Site to get to their own sectional SITE..

Who is going to Run this Sectional if the Whole team is at the LEyden Sectional?.... STUPID

[crazyrunner1215]

You guys are still missing the biggest bone head move here....

Maine South is HOSTING AN INDIVIDUAL SECTIONAL....YET THEY ARE ACTUALLY WRESTLING AT THE LEYDEN SECTIONAL????

Yeah, I don't see how this makes sense. They did it in AA too, Lemont is hosting a sectional when they will be at a sectional in LaSalle-Peru. I have never seen this done before.

[wrestle21]

#2 Jackstadt Edwardsville

#4 Warcynski Minooka

#7 Toton Plainfield Central

#10 Walsh Providence

#11 Bialka Lockport

#12 Treomel Normal Community

HM Pearlstrom W.Aurora

HM Fredrick Romeoville

HM Angel E. Moline

Interesting how other weights might look???

103 1 Eddie Klimara Fr Providence
103 3 Derek Elmore So MP Harlem
103 6 Devon Graville So Granite City
103 10 Leo Ruettiger So Minooka
103 11 Michael Banuelos Jr E Aurora
112 1 Edwin Cooper So Providence
112 2 Matt Cavallaris Jr Neuqua V
112 6 Billy Christensen Sr E Moline
112 10 Carlos Garcia So Joliet Twp
112 HM Tyler Larson Jr DeKalb
112 HM Courtland Rautio Jr O'Fallon
112 HM Brock Hill Sr Pekin
112 HM Dan Aguado So Oswego E
112 HM Frankie Campos So Bolingbrook
112 HM Wally Piech So LincolnWay E
119 1 Keith Surber Jr O'Fallon
119 2 Jameson Oster So Lockport
119 3 AJ Juarez Jr Joliet Twp
119 6 Tom Ambrose Jr Providence
119 8 Joeie Ruettiger Sr Minooka
119 10 Steven Bradtmueller Fr Plainfield C
119 HM Austin Waliullah Sr Hononegah
125 5 Brian Bokoski Sr Minooka
125 6 Lucas Plese Sr Plainfield C
125 8 Cody Klaver Jr Providence
125 9 Ryan Winchell Sr Joliet Twp
125 11 Norberto DeAvila So Collinsville
125 HM David Scarano Jr Waubonsie V
125 HM Matt Warfield Sr Granite City
125 HM Eddie Andrews Sr Evanston
125 HM Lee Wise Sr O'Fallon
125 HM Evan Vandiver Sr MP Harlem
130 3 Justin Farmer Sr LincolnWay C
130 4 Josh Zinzer Sr W Aurora
130 7 Joey Uccardi Jr Plainfield C
130 8 Mark Johnson Sr Joliet Twp
130 9 Mike Togher So Providence
130 HM Blake Montella So Minooka
130 HM Aaron Brown Sr Hononegah
130 HM Jake Elmore Sr MP Harlem
135 3 Jacob Wojcik Sr Providence
135 4 Donnie Simpson Jr Romeoville
135 6 Greg Jackson Jr Edwardsville
135 8 Kyle Schomer Sr Plainfield C
135 9 Marcus Rangel Sr Minooka
135 12 Adam Stine Sr Neuqua V
135 HM Tony Tonelli Sr Lockport
135 HM Sam McKinney Sr W Aurora
135 HM Mike Murphy Sr LincolnWay E
135 HM Andrew Haney Sr Plainfield S
140 2 Andrew Spangler Jr Neuqua V
140 3 Adam Heimer Sr LincolnWay C
140 5 Eric Oyster Jr Plainfield C
140 9 Britt McMahon Sr Hononegah
140 12 Julian Brooks Sr Romeoville
140 HM Colin Neighbors Sr Belleville W
140 HM Ethan Knoebel Jr Edwardsville
140 HM Jeremy Crnich Jr Providence
140 HM Matt Weber Jr Lockport
140 HM Nathaniel Eaton Sr Normal W
140 HM Matt Walters Sr Neuqua V
145 5 AJ Knoll Sr LincolnWay E
145 6 Vince Morris Sr W Aurora
145 7 Alex Cizek Jr Neuqua V
145 8 Tyler Prazma Jr Granite City
152 2 Quincy Jackstadt Sr Edwardsville
152 4 Ryan Warczynski Sr Minooka
152 7 Josh Toton Sr Plainfield C
152 10 Brian Walsh Jr Providence
152 11 Kevin Bialka Sr Lockport
152 12 Tony Troemel Sr Normal C
152 HM Sam Pealstrom Sr W Aurora
152 HM Joe Giuliano Sr DeKalb
152 HM Eric Frederick Sr Romeoville
152 HM Anthony Angel Sr E Moline
160 2 Nick Proctor Jr Neuqua V
160 3 Tyler Carney Sr Granite City
160 6 Josh Anthony So MP Harlem
160 8 Jesse Pena Sr W Aurora
160 11 Mike Lyons Sr Waubonsie V
160 HM Devon Walker Jr DeKalb
160 HM Kevin Ryan Sr LincolnWay C
171 1 Mark Stenberg Sr Lockport
171 3 Sterling Hecox Jr MP Harlem
171 6 Danny Deufel Sr Plainfield C
171 10 Pete Damiani Sr LincolnWay C
171 11 Tavarus Green Sr Bradley
171 HM Gary Walliser Jr Granite City
189 3 Matt Dwyer Jr Hononegah
189 7 Marty Ercoline Jr O'Fallon
189 HM Trevor Hollis Sr Hononegah
189 HM Pete Merenowicz Sr LincolnWay E
189 HM Grant Bushby Sr Plainfield C
215 1 Mario Gonzalez Sr W Aurora
215 4 Robert Cooney Sr E Moline
215 8 Mike Heinemeier Sr Edwardsville
215 9 Derek Brooks Sr O'Fallon
215 11 Daniel Mueller Jr Collinsville
215 HM Brandon Haase Jr Minooka
215 HM Alex Rodriguez Sr Lockport
285 1 Chris Narel Sr LincolnWay E
285 4 Cody Jones Jr Minooka
285 5 Mike Tetlow Sr Lockport
285 8 Casey Gushleff Jr Granite City
285 9 Terrell Pugh Sr O'Fallon
285 12 Andrew Ellington Jr Edwardsville

[Rebel]

What a joke these assignments, embarassing really

[Ace]

That is the First thing I noticed... Post #4.... Lockport is the Closest School to Main East and it is still 45 minutes to Park Ridge... The whole sectional will have to drive past LEYDEN'S Sectional Site to get to their own sectional SITE..

Who is going to Run this Sectional if the Whole team is at the LEyden Sectional?.... STUPID


Well it wasnt mentioned in post 4(I wasnt complaining just yet about the idiotic boundary lines quite yet.) ...But i guess the Basketball Coach at Maine South is going to run the tournament. haha.

[crazyrunner1215]

What a joke these assignments, embarassing really

I honestly don't think the IHSA considers rankings and intentionally stacks one sectional(even though it may seem like it). I just can't get past why every teams from st. louis will need to travel to chicago for a sectional. you would think they could find a host somewhere in between.

[wrestle21]

I honestly don't think the IHSA considers rankings and intentionally stacks one sectional(even though it may seem like it). I just can't get past why every teams from st. louis will need to travel to chicago for a sectional. you would think they could find a host somewhere in between.

Well they considered Talent Level in Basketball. How else can one explain 2 Basketball Chicago Regionals going all the way out to NIU to play the ROCKFORD/QC teams in a Super-Sectional.... Why??? Because they want multiple talented Chicago teams in the State Tournament.

But in wrestling they seem to have ignored this concept and have 6 of the top 9 teams meeting in the same Sectional match up with a trip to state on the line (Neuqua, Plainfield C, W Aurora, Minooka VS Providence, Lockport)

[Ace]

I honestly don't think the IHSA considers rankings and intentionally stacks one sectional(even though it may seem like it). I just can't get past why every teams from st. louis will need to travel to chicago for a sectional. you would think they could find a host somewhere in between.


Im not sure why you guys are still suprised at what the IHSA does.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me three times or more, your dealing with the IHSA!

[kps2120]

103
1. Kilmara (Providence)
6. Granville (Granite City)
10. Ruettiger (Minooka)
11. Banuelos (East Aurora)
112
1. Cooper (Providence)
2. Cavallaris (Neuqua)
6. Christensen (East Moline)
10. Garcia (Joliet Twp.)
HM Larson (DeKalb)
HM Rautio (O’Fallon)
HM Hill (Pekin)
HM Aguado (Oswego East)
HM Campos (Bolingbrook)
HM Piech (Lincoln-Way East)
119
1. Surber (O’Fallon)
2. Oster (Lockport)
3. Juarez (Joliet)
6. Ambrose (Providence)
8. Ruettiger (Minooka)
10. Bradtmuller (Plainfield Central)
HM Waliullah (Rockton Hononegah)
125
5. Bokoski (Minooka)
6. Plese (Plainfield Central)
8. Klaver (Providence)
11. DeAvila (Collinsville)
HM Scarano (Waubonsie Valley)
HM Warfield (Granite City)
HM Wise (O’Fallon)
HM Vandiver (MP Harlem)
130
3. Farmer (Lincoln-Way Central)
4. Zinzer (West Aurora)
7. Uccardi (Plainfield Central)
8. Johnson (Joliet Twp.)
9. Togher (Providence)
HM Colon (Moline)
HM Montella (Minooka)
HM Brown (Rockton Hononegah)
HM Elmore (MP Harlem)
135
3. Wojcik (Providence)
4. Simpson (Romeoville)
6. Jackson (Edwardsville)
8. Schomer (Plainfield Central)
9. Rangel (Minooka)
12. Stine (Neuqua Valley)
HM Tonelli (Lockport)
HM McKinney (West Aurora)
HM Murphy (Lincoln-Way East)
HM Haney (Plainfield South)
140
2. Spangler (Neuqua Valley)
3. Heimer (Lincoln-Way Central)
5. Oyster (Plainfield Central)
8. McMahon (Rockton Hononegah)
12. Brooks (Romeoville)
HM Neighbors (Belleville West)
HM Knoebel (Edwardsville)
HM Crnich (Providence)
HM Weber (Lockport)
HM Eaton (Normal Community West)
HM Walters (Neuqua Valley)
145
5. Knoll (Lincoln-Way East)
6. Morris (West Aurora)
7. Cizek (Neuqua Valley)
8. Prazma (Granite City)
152
2. Jackstadt (Edwardsville)
4. Warczynski (Minooka)
7. Toton (Plainfield Central)
10. Walsh (Providence)
11. Bialka (Lockport)
12. Troemel (Normal Community)
HM Paelstrom (West Aurora)
HM Giuliano (DeKalb)
HM Frederick (Romeoville)
160
2. Proctor (Neuqua Valley)
3. Carney (Granite City)
6. Anthony (MP Harlem)
8. Pena (West Aurora)
11. Lyons (Waubonsie Valley)
HM Carlson (Moline)
HM Walker (DeKalb)
HM Ryan (Lincoln-Way Central)
171
1. Stenberg (Lockport)
3. Hecox (MP Harlem)
6. Deufel (Plainfield Central)
10. Daimani (Lincoln-Way Central)
11. Green (Bradley-Bourbonnais)
189
2. Robinson (Collinsville)
3. Dwyer (Rockton-Hononegah)
7. Ercoline (O’Fallon)
10. Smith (Rockford Boylan)
HM Lowe (Alton)
HM Hollis (Rockton Hononegah)
HM Merenowicz (Lincoln-Way East)
HM Bushby (Plainfield Central)
215
1. Gonzalez (West Aurora)
4. Cooney (East Moline)
8. Heinemeier (Edwardsville)
9. Brooks (O’Fallon)
11. Mueller (Collinsville)
HM Haase (Minooka)
HM Rodriguez (Lockport)
285
1. Narel (Lincoln-Way East)
4. Jones (Minooka)
5. Tetlow (Lockport)
8. Gushleff (Granite City)
9. Pugh (O’Fallon)
12. Ellington (Edwardsville)

[crazyrunner1215]

Im not sure why you guys are still suprised at what the IHSA does.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me three times or more, your dealing with the IHSA!

You would think that with all the discrepencies in assignments(for all sports), the IHSA would create consistent disctricts. This way schools know their assignments. These districts could be the same for all sports.

[MR TWISTER]

why would you feel sorry for the southern teams they have had the easiest path to state for years let them pay their dues now and see what it has been like for years for some of the kids up north to try to make it to state!
I agree. In their attempt to even the sectionals or the state tournament for southern schools in reality they have sent the southern schools to the fire. Better practice hard Edwardsville and Granite City....:eek:

[MR TWISTER]

Im not sure why you guys are still suprised at what the IHSA does.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me three times or more, your dealing with the IHSA!
The last time the IHSA fooled me they ACTUALLY split wrestling from two classes to three classes without asking the ENTIRE wrestling community. I never thought they would ACTUALLY do something so dumb...:cool:

In their wisdom they asked the principals, most who were nerds when I was in school but actually grew up to get Type 75 certificates and make critical votes. In other words most principals were never athletes.

[TheEdge]

Ouch---119lbs.!!!!

[OL119]

103:
None

112:
9. Sean Raddatz - Marist
11. Kendall Hutchinson - OPRF
12. Cody Zimmerman - St. Rita
HM Dominic Cialoni - Argo

119:
7. Damonte Riley - Marian Catholic
HM Emanuel Macedo - Morton
HM Kevin Skrzypiec - Mount Carmel

125:
1. Jon Morrison - Sandburg
4. Dionte Brown - Marist
10. Ryan March - Brother Rice
12. Ryan Fitpatrick - Mount Carmel
HM Matt O' Boyle - Marian Catholic
HM Mike Golden - St. Rita
HM Matt Nora - Lyons Township
HM Stephen Murphy - Marian Catholic

130:
2. Chris Dardanes - OPRF
HM Mike Grice - Shepard
HM Mike Maggi - Mount Carmel
HM Brendan Murphy - Marian Catholic
HM Jacob Bugajski - De La Salle

135:
1. Nick Dardanes - OPRF
5. Mark Marianovich - Marian Catholic
11. Mike Avelar - Brother Rice
HM Bill Wood - St. Laurence
HM Drew Salzman - Marist
HM Chris Gonzalez - Bloom Twp

140:
1. Ellis Coleman - OPRF
4. Malik Taylor - Brother Rice

145:
2. Elias Larson - Marian Catholic
4. Lucas Nelson - Brother Rice
10. Brian Strenk - Mount Carmel
12. Shane Murphy - Lyons Township
HM Ron Galason - Marist
HM RJ Dilcher - Lyons Township
HM Joe Scardina - St. Rita

152:
3. Dan Martin - OPRF
HM Mike Ryan - Lyons Township
HM David Skrzypiec - Mount Carmel

160:
1. Jahwon Akui - St. Rita
HM Sam Brooks - OPRF

171:
None

189:
1. Clayton Kendall - De La Salle
5. Charles Argue - Mount Carmel
HM Ben Brooks - OPRF
HM Sean Yaros - Stagg

215:
2. Arthur Smith - Marist
3. Reggie Reed - Bloom Twp.
5. Charles Lewis - Thornwood
HM Jake Konovsky - Lyons Township

285:
2. Curtis Blaydes - De La Salle
7. John Grubish - Argo
HM Eddie Castillo - Bloom Twp.
HM John Price - Dunbar

[lwsingle]

Did anyone notice on the dual team and individual sites page they have the sectional listed at TBA for the West Aurora Reg. Maybe the wonderful IHSA has not found a site yet, either way this sectional is going to be really fun!!!:confused:

[Jaguar]

Did anyone notice on the dual team and individual sites page they have the sectional listed at TBA for the West Aurora Reg. Maybe the wonderful IHSA has not found a site yet, either way this sectional is going to be really fun!!!:confused:
West Aurora is definitely hosting a regional. I think it''s the sectional location that is not certain (as the host apparently isn't even in the sectional).

[ctdad]

You know, they could have at least sent one sectional out of the metro. Would it have killed anybody to have to go to Pekin (and I have no idea if they even bid on it)? That would somewhat centrally located for the Western and Southern reps as well as the two Chicago regionals that will feed in.

[FishArt]

Holy cow! 7 out of the top ten ranked teams will face each other at the Maine South Sectional - that's NUTS! 70% in one sectional. Need I say more???

[wrestling74]

Are we serious IHSA. I guess the IHSA does not have a clue about how to make money because I am sure one of the factors for expanding to 3 classes was to get more people to go downstate and pay that ridicilous price for high school wrestling but I think it back fired. Some of best matches will be at sectionals. Some of them could of been state final matches. A lot of potential place winners will not even make it down. How stupid can the IHSA be? Please no one answer that. As of one of my associates says all the time. I need to take it easy but this is some real BS if you ask me and the other millions of wrestling fans in Illinois and out

[fanofthemat]

So this happens every year... Why is everyone complaining?... Was this unexpected?

[crazyrunner1215]

So this happens every year... Why is everyone complaining?... Was this unexpected?

You are exactly right about that. It does happen every year. I recall one year where GBN and Montini faced each other at the sectional. You have to beat the best to be the best, whether that is at regionals, sectionals, or state finals. After all, they do call those 3 weekends the "state series."

[Mencoe]

1- Out of 168 top 12 ranked wrestlers counting each weight, 70 will come from 1 Sectional. The other 3 sectionals will average out with 32 top 12 wrestlers in their Sectional.

2- Also... out of 300 ranked and "HM" wrestlers, 110 come from that same Sectional, with the other 3 averaging out with 64 wrestlers.

3- That Sectional will produce 26-28 top 4 placers at state, out of 54 possible.

1- 100%+ more
2- 83% more
3- 100% more than other 3 combined


LOL

[Ive Wrestled B4]

You are exactly right about that. It does happen every year. I recall one year where GBN and Montini faced each other at the sectional. You have to beat the best to be the best, whether that is at regionals, sectionals, or state finals. After all, they do call those 3 weekends the "state series."


I hesitate to call someone an idiot, but you are talking about two stud teams meeting at sectionals. The current issue is 7 of the top 10 teams will all be meeting in one sectional.

The state series is supposed to funnel the top wrestlers from regionals thru state. The idea being that the strongest 16 AAA wrestlers in the state will meet in Champaign. Under the sectional assignments this year, as with previous years, this is not possible.

I am disappointed that some of our best wrestlers will be in the stands rather than on the mats, but this is not new to Illinois.

[MR TWISTER]

DLS Section 125....ouch....I believe there will be some disappointed 125's at that sectional

[ctdad]

I hesitate to call someone an idiot, but you are talking about two stud teams meeting at sectionals. The current issue is 7 of the top 10 teams will all be meeting in one sectional.

The state series is supposed to funnel the top wrestlers from regionals thru state. The idea being that the strongest 16 AAA wrestlers in the state will meet in Champaign. Under the sectional assignments this year, as with previous years, this is not possible.

I am disappointed that some of our best wrestlers will be in the stands rather than on the mats, but this is not new to Illinois.

Nope, the state series, as has been quoted on this site innumerable times, is to determine a champion and nothing else. It has never brought the best x participants/teams to state in any sport. It brings the best x from different sections of the state. If it were to do what you suggest, the only way would be to bring every player/team in the state to one place over y days and have at it. That's not feasible.

[pin2win171]

189 at de la salle sectional is stacked.. Clayton kendall, brooks, moses, yaros, argue, aj smith... and im sure rita and sandberg have good guys there too

[Italiano]

Nope, the state series, as has been quoted on this site innumerable times, is to determine a champion and nothing else. It has never brought the best x participants/teams to state in any sport. It brings the best x from different sections of the state. If it were to do what you suggest, the only way would be to bring every player/team in the state to one place over y days and have at it. That's not feasible.

that would be awesome though

[THE_AG_189]

evryy body better bring their A game. There will be disapointments but the BEST will be down state.

[Dondo]

evryy body better bring their A game. There will be disapointments but the BEST will be down state.

Correction......BEST from each class.:confused:

[Italiano]

the dardanes v. marianovich match will be intense at 135, as will the larson v. nelson match at 145 at the DLS sectional

[sporttrak]

Did anybody do a drug test on the IHSA?

[FishArt]

evryy body better bring their A game. There will be disapointments but the BEST will be down state.

Not necessarily. May not even be the best from each class. Except for that very top position of course.

Another thing to consider is I feel sorry for some of these JV kids that (unfortunately for them) have a top ranked kid ahead of them starting varsity. Some of these schools have SO much depth that I know of at least one, maybe two kids currently NOT starting varsity that could very well place at State as a second entry. Unfortunately - especially in the M.S. Sectional, in some situations you have 3, 4, 5+ ranked kids in a weight class - maybe MORE!

[AJP]

189 at de la salle sectional is stacked.. Clayton kendall, brooks, moses, yaros, argue, aj smith... and im sure rita and sandberg have good guys there too

kendall and argue said they would move down last week

[c62951]

I hesitate to call someone an idiot, but you are talking about two stud teams meeting at sectionals. The current issue is 7 of the top 10 teams will all be meeting in one sectional.

"The state series is supposed to funnel the top wrestlers from regionals thru state. The idea being that the strongest 16 AAA wrestlers in the state will meet in Champaign." Under the sectional assignments this year, as with previous years, this is not possible.

I am disappointed that some of our best wrestlers will be in the stands rather than on the mats, but this is not new to Illinois.


As much as I wish that was the goal of the IHSA, they have consistently come out and said that this is not the case. Their goal is "to bring together representatives of the best athletes from different areas of the state". I wish it was not that way. The only way this would change is if the school principals get together and petition the IHSA for change , . .. and it is highly unlikely to occur. This is the case in almost all sports, . . . . it is not unqiue to wrestling.

[AJP]

As much as I wish that was the goal of the IHSA, they have consistently come out and said that this is not the case. Their goal is "to bring together representatives of the best athletes from different areas of the state". I wish it was not that way. The only way this would change is if the school principals get together and petition the IHSA for change , . .. and it is highly unlikely to occur. This is the case in almost all sports, . . . . it is not unqiue to wrestling.

is not the top priority nor goal for educators who structure these programs...:(

[MR TWISTER]

Not necessarily. May not even be the best from each class. Except for that very top position of course.

Another thing to consider is I feel sorry for some of these JV kids that (unfortunately for them) have a top ranked kid ahead of them starting varsity. Some of these schools have SO much depth that I know of at least one, maybe two kids currently NOT starting varsity that could very well place at State as a second entry. Unfortunately - especially in the M.S. Sectional, in some situations you have 3, 4, 5+ ranked kids in a weight class - maybe MORE!Well if these kids are going to wrestle on the next level this is how it will be every week, not just at the championship. "Stacked" is a way of life in college.

[eagle]

Obviously the Maine South Sectional is stacked and I wouldn't want to be in it. But that is the way it is and there is always a weight in each sectional that is considered stacked. We have all seen the 1,2, and 3 wrestlers in regionals, sectionals and state, it does happen.

But remember you are looking at rankings not results. Some weights may not be as hard as you think. Some kids are ranked too high while some are unknown.

The only real complaint about the sectionals can be the amount of travel for some teams. Some have to travel a couple hours for regionals and sectionals and if they make the team sectional, for one match on a Tuesday.

[wise guy08]

the dardanes v. marianovich match will be intense at 135, as will the larson v. nelson match at 145 at the DLS sectional
Dardanes and marianovich should be a good one. however Larson will take it to nelson. they are on two different levels

[Italiano]

Dardanes and marianovich should be a good one. however Larson will take it to nelson. they are on two different levels

i dont know about that one. larson had a good reputation coming in, but in high school, he kinda fell flat. They have roughly the same accomplishments. If eli was on another level, he would have won state, or been in the state finals. And yes, eli placed 6th, nelson didnt place. Well eli placed his junior year, nelson was in his sophomore year. Did eli place his sophomore year? No. The only difference in "level" is age.

[228stud]

i think they did a great job!!!

[c62951]

i think they did a great job!!!

You must be from Mt Carmel. . . just kidding :)

[Phat&Happy]

It looks like the IHSA is trying to correct the miistakes or errors in assignments the 3AAA page is down. Watch what it looks like when it is back up again!

[colonel kurtz]

has anyone heard they are redoing the placements i read on edgy's forum http://edgytim.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1597&mid=121558474&sid=913&tid=121558474&style=1 that they put up a TBA status and when i used the link on page 1 i got a 404 error
Hmmm


i was 1 minute slow i see

[MR TWISTER]

You must be from Mt Carmel. . . just kidding :)
What does that mean? Mt Carmel did not get a favorable seeding....

[wise guy08]

i dont know about that one. larson had a good reputation coming in, but in high school, he kinda fell flat. They have roughly the same accomplishments. If eli was on another level, he would have won state, or been in the state finals. And yes, eli placed 6th, nelson didnt place. Well eli placed his junior year, nelson was in his sophomore year. Did eli place his sophomore year? No. The only difference in "level" is age.
Fell flat?? Eli came within one match of placing both his frshman and shopmore year. This was at 140 and 145 a tough wieght for a frshman to compete at. Then as a jr(in the same wight class as neslon) he placed 6th. Nelson however didnt quailfy his frsshman year and went one and done his second year. Now im not saying nelson is not good, because he is a soild wrestler. I just dont see him keeping it up with eli.

[Italiano]

we will see

[pin2win171]

Fell flat?? Eli came within one match of placing both his frshman and shopmore year. This was at 140 and 145 a tough wieght for a frshman to compete at. Then as a jr(in the same wight class as neslon) he placed 6th. Nelson however didnt quailfy his frsshman year and went one and done his second year. Now im not saying nelson is not good, because he is a soild wrestler. I just dont see him keeping it up with eli.

well we may never know because Nelson certified at 140 and taylor certified at 145. whether they flip flop or not is unknow, but nelson weighed in under 140 at the fat test.

[Italiano]

ok then malik vs eli. is eli on "another level" than malik?

[oldpioneer]

What does that mean? Mt Carmel did not get a favorable seeding....
I think that was his point Twist. how are ya?

[MR TWISTER]

I think that was his point Twist. how are ya?I guess I missed it. Sometimes things go over my head.
I am good otherwise.

[Phat&Happy]

When Phat&Happy speaks people should listen!

[Rebel]

Almost looks like a repeat of SWSC conference meet that takes place a week before.

[builtfordtough]

The Romeoville and West Aurora Regionals are both loaded. It will be interesting to see who makes it out of each one. And then they will have to face off in the sectional. This has to be hands down the toughest sectional this year. Just about every team in these two regionals are either ranked or are on the HM list. And I already see some great matches ahead.

[builtfordtough]

Almost looks like a repeat of SWSC conference meet that takes place a week before.

It will be two weeks before :D

[South Cider]

Fell flat?? Eli came within one match of placing both his frshman and shopmore year. This was at 140 and 145 a tough wieght for a frshman to compete at. Then as a jr(in the same wight class as neslon) he placed 6th. Nelson however didnt quailfy his frsshman year and went one and done his second year. Now im not saying nelson is not good, because he is a soild wrestler. I just dont see him keeping it up with eli.
You have to admit, it would be great to see the reaction of Coach Weick and of old man larson if Elias lost to a Br. Rice kid.

[Italiano]

hahaha mr larson would have a stroke. in my opinion malik has all the tools to beat eli. he is a better wrestler than eli, and will achieve more than eli ever will in high school. and i KNOW that if the match happens, im going to be in the stands yelling my a** off with a big ole grin on my face

[Southern_Hospitality]

why would you feel sorry for the southern teams they have had the easiest path to state for years let them pay their dues now and see what it has been like for years for some of the kids up north to try to make it to state!


The funny thing is that I see none of the southern posters coming on here and complaining about how unfair it is. However, the only complaints I see on here is from the most notable northern posters.

[Southern_Hospitality]

I agree. In their attempt to even the sectionals or the state tournament for southern schools in reality they have sent the southern schools to the fire. Better practice hard Edwardsville and Granite City....:eek:

Twister,

The funny thing is you only mention two southern schools instead of all of them. Why single these two programs out because there are quality wrestling from the other programs down here. I can tell you right now that every program down south is up for the new challenges.

[normster]

Ok, here's a really stupid question, I know. How many guys advance from each regional to the sectional and then from the each sectional to the big show?

[AJP]

Ok, here's a really stupid question, I know. How many guys advance from each regional to the sectional and then from the each sectional to the big show?
four....not 3

[birdwatcher35]

Ok, here's a really stupid question, I know. How many guys advance from each regional to the sectional and then from the each sectional to the big show?

I believe that according to the IHSA Terms and Conditions for AAA it is the top 3 from each regional and the top 4 from sectional advancing to state.