AA Final Picks!

[Uncle Reemis]

Now That We Know, Who's In and Who's Out, Who are Your Final Picks For State Champs??

[bruteforce wrestling]

Now That We Know, Who's In and Who's Out, Who are Your Final Picks For State Champs??
103- Carton
112- Jauch
119- Roth
125- Robertson
130- Sheley
135- Logsdon
140- Kielbasa
145- Castellano
152- Carlson
160- Gonzalez
171- Brewer
189- Foreside
215- Howell
285- Ford

[wrestlingfan423]

I thought Ford was out at 285.

[Danny Burk]

103- Carton
112- Jauch
119- Roth
125- Robertson
130- Sheley
135- Logsdon
140- Kielbasa
145- Castellano
152- Carlson
160- Gonzalez
171- Brewer
189- Foreside
215- Howell
285- Ford

Carton looks pretty tough. He dominated a pretty tough field in LaSalle.
Sheley vs Rasche will be a good match up, if they are to meet.
Castellano and Reel is going to be a battle. I havent seen Reel been pushed this year, but he is the real deal.
For some reason, I dont see Brewer winning a state title. I have no clue who is going to beat him, but I think someone will.
I dont think Howell can beat Goebel. Howell won a tough sectional, but just does not impress me. His conditioning is not there.

[constant movement]

Carton looks pretty tough. He dominated a pretty tough field in LaSalle.
Sheley vs Rasche will be a good match up, if they are to meet.
Castellano and Reel is going to be a battle. I havent seen Reel been pushed this year, but he is the real deal.
For some reason, I dont see Brewer winning a state title. I have no clue who is going to beat him, but I think someone will.
I dont think Howell can beat Goebel. Howell won a tough sectional, but just does not impress me. His conditioning is not there.

He has been dominating, but he was pushed by Young. He just couldn't keep pace in that match. Which i think is, maybe, the only way you beat Reel. You have to keep on him and constantly attacking. It's easier said than done, tho. That's why i like him over Castellano. Castellano doesn't seem to be very aggressive. He's made a name as a top notch defensive wrestler. I just don't think Castellano will pull out the victory if he keeps a slow pace in the match...we shall see? Good luck to both and all the other 45 pounders that qualified!

[Man on the run 215]

Carton looks pretty tough. He dominated a pretty tough field in LaSalle.
Sheley vs Rasche will be a good match up, if they are to meet.
Castellano and Reel is going to be a battle. I havent seen Reel been pushed this year, but he is the real deal.
For some reason, I dont see Brewer winning a state title. I have no clue who is going to beat him, but I think someone will.
I dont think Howell can beat Goebel. Howell won a tough sectional, but just does not impress me. His conditioning is not there.
Dont judge Howell by his two matches on saturday. He is able to the distance when he has to

[JDofRB]

103-Carton
112-Jauch
119-Roth
125-Tate
130-Rasche
135-Holmes
140-Kielbasa
145-Castellano
152-Carlson
160-Gonzalez
171-Parlberg
189-Foreside
215-Harrah or Anderson
285-Teitsma

[Illinois-Matman]

103-Carton
112-Jauch
119-Roth
125-Robertson
130-Sheley
135-Holmes
140-Kielbasa
145-Castellano
152-Spencer
160-Gonzalez
171-Parlberg
189-Foreside
215-Harrah
285-Teitsma

[FAN O GRAPPLIN]

you think the GBS kid is going to beat the kid from montini @ 285??

[Highlander]

you think the GBS kid is going to beat the kid from montini @ 285??
Why not? He did it twice: in regional and sectional

[just my opinion]

Correction.....he did it once . At sectionals, Ferraro injury defaulted. Furthermore, if the blind old ref would have caught Teitsma locking his hands during the regional finals, the score would have been much closer AND possibly would have busted Teitsma's "perfect record"

[FAN O GRAPPLIN]

i was there sat, he never wrestled him, they ID for the finals, but i did watch the match on youtube, if the montini kid dont get hurt, the GBS kid is done.... suckin wind will never win a wrestling match, the montini kid looked like he could go another 8min after his ford win sat.....

[FAN O GRAPPLIN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6HfITjkFWw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da01CZIsIzo

[FAN O GRAPPLIN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPVtVQdNlw

[JDofRB]

Why not? He did it twice: in regional and sectional

Teitsma from GBS was given a forfeit by Ferraro from Montini.

[waahooo]

Correction.....he did it once . At sectionals, Ferraro injury defaulted. Furthermore, if the blind old ref would have caught Teitsma locking his hands during the regional finals, the score would have been much closer AND possibly would have busted Teitsma's "perfect record"

I'm not really sure how the ref missed that locked hands call. Teitsma stalled almost the entire match and gassed in the second period. He had one bear hug in the first and after that nothing. Ross could very well win in a rematch.

[chatham wrestler 09]

question why doesnt anyone talk about trey cunningham he has only lost to the two best at 189 and 215 in AAA. he hasnt lost in AA and pinned blaney!!

[illinoisfreestyle189]

my pics:
103- carton
112- jauch
119- roth
125- tate
130- rasche
135- logsdon
140- baer
145- castellano
152- spencer
160- gonzales
171- parlberg
189- foreside
215- howell
285- ochoa

+ Teitsma (285) didnt qualify for sectionals last year for AA... Harrah (215) is too young and small for his weight and it will be hard for him to place down state; while howell has rolled around with some tough AAA guys (ie. allen, cooney, nelson)... Roth (119) is the only undeafted guy in his bracket and the only for sure champion this year, i think. 140-152, and hwt are really too hard/close to call really. I dont think Goeble (215) will place top 4 down state...i mean come on, didn't he look hesitant at the dvorak and isnt he pretty small for 215. this is just my 2 cents.

[171AHundLbsAgo]

my pics:
103- carton
112- jauch
119- roth
125- tate
130- rasche
135- logsdon
140- baer
145- castellano
152- spencer
160- gonzales
171- parlberg
189- foreside
215- howell
285- ochoa

+ Teitsma (285) didnt qualify for sectionals last year for AA... Harrah (215) is too young and small for his weight and it will be hard for him to place down state; while howell has rolled around with some tough AAA guys (ie. allen, cooney, nelson)... Roth (119) is the only undeafted guy in his bracket and the only for sure champion this year, i think. 140-152, and hwt are really too hard/close to call really. I dont think Goeble (215) will place top 4 down state...i mean come on, didn't he look hesitant at the dvorak and isnt he pretty small for 215. this is just my 2 cents.


Wow some bold predictions. Too bad Ochoa is far too overated... or should I saw WAS far too overrated seing as he didn't even make it to the third place place match. Goebel is an animal and so Is Harrah... we be a repeat Final. Logsdon is not nearly what he is cracked up to be.... He was pinned for a good 5 seconds against Holmes.... got a point for a very strange string of stalling calls against Holmes while Logsdon was living on the egde of the mat instead of wrestling in the Circle.

[Old Feather Paws]

my pics:
103- carton
112- jauch
119- roth
125- tate
130- rasche
135- logsdon
140- baer
145- castellano
152- spencer
160- gonzales
171- parlberg
189- foreside
215- howell
285- ochoa

+ Teitsma (285) didnt qualify for sectionals last year for AA... Harrah (215) is too young and small for his weight and it will be hard for him to place down state; while howell has rolled around with some tough AAA guys (ie. allen, cooney, nelson)... Roth (119) is the only undeafted guy in his bracket and the only for sure champion this year, i think. 140-152, and hwt are really too hard/close to call really. I dont think Goeble (215) will place top 4 down state...i mean come on, didn't he look hesitant at the dvorak and isnt he pretty small for 215. this is just my 2 cents.


This is what I was asking for in my post about Goebel #215. Information!!!


Ya'll some fools taking it where you did!!

[waahooo]

my pics:
103- carton
112- jauch
119- roth
125- tate
130- rasche
135- logsdon
140- baer
145- castellano
152- spencer
160- gonzales
171- parlberg
189- foreside
215- howell
285- ochoa

+ Teitsma (285) didnt qualify for sectionals last year for AA... Harrah (215) is too young and small for his weight and it will be hard for him to place down state; while howell has rolled around with some tough AAA guys (ie. allen, cooney, nelson)... Roth (119) is the only undeafted guy in his bracket and the only for sure champion this year, i think. 140-152, and hwt are really too hard/close to call really. I dont think Goeble (215) will place top 4 down state...i mean come on, didn't he look hesitant at the dvorak and isnt he pretty small for 215. this is just my 2 cents.

Yeah, he looked pretty hesitant while he WON the Dvorak. To say Goebel doesnt place top 4 downstate is ridiculous. He only has 4 losses this season wrestling one of the toughest schedules in the state.

[Unstoppable]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uPVtVQdNlw

After watching that match I do not see Teitsma taking home the board

[Chosen one54]

who do you think will be in the finals with roth?...... Bonic? or Williams?

[Red Cat 1]

If Bonic displays the ability he wrestled the second day last year, he'll be in the Grand March.

[Central IL Guy]

If Bonic displays the ability he wrestled the second day last year, he'll be in the Grand March.


What about Meyer from Morton...he might be in the mix!!

[iceman/johnson&johnson]

Man I am sorry you guys were arguing about Teitsma and Feraro and who would win the 285lbs championship. Teitsma was thrown in the first 30 seconds against the lemont kid and was stuck and Feraro and the lemont kid had a good finals match but the lemont kid stuck him in either double or triple overtime.How did this lemont kid go from unnoticed to champion?

[MarlboroWrestler]

At heavyweight, the rankings of the wrestlers will change much more than other weights. Most heavyweights are throwers, about 90% of them. One toss can change a match. Even good wrestlers will a solid toss can beat a Great state-ranked wrestler with one move. Happens all the time...

[iceman/johnson&johnson]

So are u saying it was more to do with luck rather than skill? I am not starting an argument but your like the third person that refuses to give this poor kid any credit. From what I heard these throws of his looked pretty stellar rather than a lucky toss. Lets also mention that everyone saw him throw so you knew he could do it so to hit it again against the number one ranked kid I would think is pretty skillful or the number one ranked kid was looking past him?

[MarlboroWrestler]

I'm not saying he's a sub par wrestler... He's a good wrestler. Did I ever think he would win state? No. I will give him respect for making his way to the state finals and winning. What i am saying is that any other kid like Cabral, that has a good toss can win any match. He deserved to make it down to state. Upsets happen all the time at heavyweight because of the fact i stated before, the majority of them toss their opponents as their primary offensive move. I wrestled Heavyweight, I tossed ALOT of people. I also was tossed by alot of wrestlers that shouldnt have beaten me. Heavyweight wrestling takes skill, without a doubt.
Luck plays a small part but heavyweight wrestlers are not exactly well rounded wrestlers. (Oxymoron?) At this weight, there is a much greater chance of the #1 seed to lose to lower seeds because of the fact that one toss can change it all. One toss and the match can be over. One toss and you could be the state champion. No disrespect to Cabral at all, he deserved it but do i think he could do it all over again the day after? Not really. Same goes for almost every heavyweight at 2A.

[just my opinion]

Again let me just state.................Ferraro was not pinned in the finals. It is unfortunate that the ref was blind and pathetic. Ferraro was on his back, time RAN OUT before the ref slapped the mat. Watch the video and you too will see. Cabral won by points in OT

[MarlboroWrestler]

i saw that too... :eek:

[iceman/johnson&johnson]

Once a Montini kid loses a close match via pin the whole Montini nation starts losing it. Sorry to say boys, the brcket said pin, so leave with it. I mean lord knows you have the best team assembled from everyone's backyard so give some credit when someone that is not from montini wins against a Monitini kid. I am starting a public vs private school argument but facts are facts. its a lot easier to win when you can get kids miles upon miles away from your school. Your Marketing aka recruiter is one hell of a salesman or saleswoman in my opinion. Give the Lemont kid some credit he earned it and there is nothing Feraro or the Montini nation can do to reverse it.

[MarlboroWrestler]

I am in no way part of the Montini nation... prolly farthest thing away from it and i even thought that it wasnt a pin... I still think he got away a pin after the buzzer. He beat him without a doubt but did he pin him? not what i saw.

[StrlingWrestler145]

I am in no way part of the Montini nation... prolly farthest thing away from it and i even thought that it wasnt a pin... I still think he got away a pin after the buzzer. He beat him without a doubt but did he pin him? not what i saw.
i tottaly agree with you, i was right there in front of that match and it was definatly not a pin, primarily because the buzzer already went off. Good Job though by the Lemont wrestler

[just my opinion]

Hey Iceman, try to comprehend what you're reading. NO ONE is taking credit away from the Lemont kid. What was being said was the poor job done by the refs. It has NOTHING to do with "Montini Nation" or being upset because a Montini wrestler lost. The bracket said PIN and all that's being stated is that that's wrong. Time ran out before the ref slapped the mat so to say Cabral pinned his way to a State title is wrong. Everyone knows it can't be changed and it is what it is and don't think for one minute that anyone is trying to take anything away from Cabral because they're NOT!!!! Furthermore, no one is trying to change anything, we are merely stating the facts. If you'd like, I'd be happy to send you the video so you too can see for yourself........It was NOT a pin, simply a win.....by points.

[Lefty]

The bracket said PIN and all that's being stated is that that's wrong. Time ran out before the ref slapped the mat so to say Cabral pinned his way to a State title is wrong. Everyone knows it can't be changed and it is what it is and don't think for one minute that anyone is trying to take anything away from Cabral because they're NOT!!!! Furthermore, no one is trying to change anything, we are merely stating the facts. If you'd like, I'd be happy to send you the video so you too can see for yourself........It was NOT a pin, simply a win.....by points.

He only won by points in the state championship match... how embarrassing.

Thankfully you have the proof to set us all straight. Now I'll be able to sleep at night.

I wonder if there were any other mistakes that occurred at the State Tournament?

[Unstoppable]

He only won by points in the state championship match... how embarrassing.

Thankfully you have the proof to set us all straight. Now I'll be able to sleep at night.

I wonder if there were any other mistakes that occurred at the State Tournament?

HAHA don't get to cocky here Lefty if he was in 3a I do not think he would even have a medal!

[MarlboroWrestler]

The 285 at 2A was a suprise. Alot of upsets. kinda weak this year

[Lefty]

HAHA don't get to cocky here Lefty if he was in 3a I do not think he would even have a medal!

Not cocky at all... and AAA has nothing to do with the conversation.

The kid won the State Title and people are arguing if he pinned Ferraro or not, which is a moot point. He still walked away with the bracket board.

[Unstoppable]

Not cocky at all... and AAA has nothing to do with the conversation.

The kid won the State Title and people are arguing if he pinned Ferraro or not, which is a moot point. He still walked away with the bracket board.

I'm saying he beat a kid in the finals in double overtime that was 1-2 last year on varsity and the Lemont kid had 7 losses out of 24 matches... You cannot say that bracket wasn't one of the weakest in the entire tournament.

[just my opinion]

Cabral absolutely walked away with the bracket and I say good for him. All I'm saying is people that are saying he pinned his way to a title are wrong. And as far as other mistakes, I'm sure there were plenty, because the refs were horrible. No need to be such a sarcastic *** Lefty. Be sarcastic, talk smack, whatever..................I don't see you on the mat!!!!!

[just my opinion]

Not to mention, how do you figure HWT was a weak bracket??? I'm curious.

[Unstoppable]

Not to mention, how do you figure HWT was a weak bracket??? I'm curious.

Read my last quote, how strong of a bracket does this sound? Ferarro (1-2 on Varsity last year), Lemont kid (17-7) square off in the finals... was there a kid in the entire bracket that even had experience wrestling downstate before this year? That is why it was a incredibly weak bracket...

[Lefty]

I'm saying he beat a kid in the finals in double overtime that was 1-2 last year on varsity and the Lemont kid had 7 losses out of 24 matches... You cannot say that bracket wasn't one of the weakest in the entire tournament.

Ferraro placed 5th at Dvorak and 4th at Cheesehead... not too shabby for a guy that was 1-2 last year.

Teitsma won a tough Fenton Sectional and was a beast with a zero in the loss column going into the semis.

[Undisputed]

Read my last quote, how strong of a bracket does this sound? Ferarro (1-2 on Varsity last year), Lemont kid (17-7) square off in the finals... was there a kid in the entire bracket that even had experience wrestling downstate before this year? That is why it was a incredibly weak bracket...

It was a weak bracket compared to last year. Last year there was many returning state qualifiers and a state champ and we all know who that was :D. The level of competition in this years HWT bracket was by far the weakest in the past 3 to 4 years

[Unstoppable]

Ferraro placed 5th at Dvorak and 4th at Cheesehead... not too shabby for a guy that was 1-2 last year.

Teitsma won a tough Fenton Sectional and was a beast with a zero in the loss column going into the semis.

Tough Heavy Fenton sectional? Give me a break.. Tiestma did not wrestle anyone out of state therefore his record does not show how good the competition actually is. 5th place in the Dvorak is not too shabby for a guy who got 2nd in state? HAHA very high expectations!

[MarlboroWrestler]

Fenton sectional had the toughest 285 lber's at 2A. Once again, Weak.

[iceman/johnson&johnson]

love to see your version of the video because the one I witnessed had the refs hand slapping as time expire. Like in basketball when the hand is in motion of slapping the mat while time is expiring it is good. I also love the fact that someone wins state and it is a weak bracket? Man you guys need to just give it a rest. Here are the facts: On the bracket board it said pin so stop crying, refs may make some shaky calls at times, but they are human and if you do not like it then become a ref, and lastly I high doubt anyone on here that is trying to say that weight bracket was dull and weak would probably die for a bracket of their own and probabyl have the thought. man if I was in high school and at that weight I would be a state champ as well. Sorry to say but you are not so back off the big boys!

[Unstoppable]

love to see your version of the video because the one I witnessed had the refs hand slapping as time expire. Like in basketball when the hand is in motion of slapping the mat while time is expiring it is good. I also love the fact that someone wins state and it is a weak bracket? Man you guys need to just give it a rest. Here are the facts: On the bracket board it said pin so stop crying, refs may make some shaky calls at times, but they are human and if you do not like it then become a ref, and lastly I high doubt anyone on here that is trying to say that weight bracket was dull and weak would probably die for a bracket of their own and probabyl have the thought. man if I was in high school and at that weight I would be a state champ as well. Sorry to say but you are not so back off the big boys!

Believe me, I am not on hear saying every state champ only had a weak bracket. The heavyweight bracket was extremely weak overall, especially 2a. Just the facts..Do you have any facts that support the heavyweight bracket being "stacked"?

[iceman/johnson&johnson]

never said it was stacked but come on trying to take something away from the kids is a little crazy in my opinion. I mean if you were them and saw this, you would probably think that these old timers have no idea what they are talking abot since they are not on the mat themselves. Ferrao is a tough wrestler and to use the whole 1-2 on varsity is crazy. I heard he was like 210 last year. He looks like 230 lbs and much more thicker and I was told that Carbral wrestled half the year hurt and that is why he had some of his losses. Either way I think it is safe to say that Ferraro or Cabral coould probably beat 85% of the people on this board maybe more and that is a fact Jack

[Unstoppable]

never said it was stacked but come on trying to take something away from the kids is a little crazy in my opinion. I mean if you were them and saw this, you would probably think that these old timers have no idea what they are talking abot since they are not on the mat themselves. Ferrao is a tough wrestler and to use the whole 1-2 on varsity is crazy. I heard he was like 210 last year. He looks like 230 lbs and much more thicker and I was told that Carbral wrestled half the year hurt and that is why he had some of his losses. Either way I think it is safe to say that Ferraro or Cabral coould probably beat 85% of the people on this board maybe more and that is a fact Jack

HAHA Ferraro weighed in at 209 for the state tournament. He was also 1-2 on varsity last year..FACTS. Everyone wrestles through injuries, it is part of the sport, so stop making excuses for him. This has nothing to do with wrestling people on this board... Have a safe trip home

[Spladelman]

Originally Posted by iceman/johnson&johnson:
I heard he was like 210 last year.
He wrestled 189 most of last year, including the Mahomet Seymour Tourny check the brackets on the home page

Originally Posted by iceman/johnson&johnson:
He looks like 230 lbs and much more thicker
209 is "much more thicker" than 189