dual state

[oldtimer]

So a little early, but here are some thoughts...

Sectional Matches
Byron Sectional
1. Harvard vs. Dakota - Dakota by 10
2. Riverdale vs. Newman - Riverdale big

Stanford - Olympia Sectional
1. Praire Central vs. Argenta? - have no idea who is facing PC, but they will lose
2. Orion vs. Stanford - um, orion?

Montini Sectional
1. Burlington Central vs. um...Lansing? BC wins against whomever
2. Montini vs. Wilmington - montini by 15

Vanalia Sectional
1. Porta vs Roxana - could go either way...going with roxana
2. Vandalia vs. herrin? - vandalia wins vs. whoever

Quarterfinals
Orion vs. Dakota - Dakota cruises
Vandalia vs. Montini - Montini cruises
Riverdale vs. Burlington Central - very close match BC could win
Roxana vs Praire Central - PC has been down lately, going with Roxana

Semi's
Dakota vs Montini - close match, but after seeing dakota....
Riverdale vs. roxana - don't know much about roxana the could win

Finals
Dakota vs Riverdale - Dakota wins big
Montini vs Roxana - Montini wins big

Another year of the state finals match in the semi's...

Riverdale may not get out of regionals (alleman), but if they do, I don't see them losing until the finals. They are finally getting a good draw this year, as opposed to feeding into Montini or Sandwich first round...

Thoughts and/or opinions?

[refsforfun]

Do you think BC will beat Sandwich in their regional? Sandwich seems to be wrestling better lately.

[Willy]

After seeing the projected match-ups for dual team state, it looks like Wilmington or Coal City will once again be one of the best teams in the state not to wrestle at dual team state because they feed into Montini and last year, Sandwich. As long as the IHSA leaves that sectional together, a top team will not be at state. Prairie Central? Burlington Central? Sandwich? Both Coal City and Wilmington have beaten them or could beat them. But I like Dakota to win the whole thing. Even if Colletti comes back, Montini will meet their match in Dakota.

[Greyhound]

Don't forget Monticello, if they can win there regional. They are an excellent dual team with no real holes. They would pose a problem for any team. They could possibly run through there half all the way to the finals. No, they could not beat Dakota, Wilmington, or Montini. But when you look at the bracket, they don't have too. Just remember, they are not a tourney team, but an excellent dual team.

[oldtimer]

What regional does montecello come out of?

[oldtimer]

Do you think BC will beat Sandwich in their regional? Sandwich seems to be wrestling better lately.
Yea, I think Burlington central is pretty tough this year. Not sure who they have lost to, but I don't think Sandwich will hang at regionals. I could be way off base on this, but I still like BC's chances.

[Greyhound]

Monticello comes out of the Argenta regional. If I have my facts correct, they draw the winner of the Clinton (prob. PC) reginoal first and then the winner of the south (project Roxana) half and then possibly PB Riverdale. Alot of guessing here but they have favorable matchup's in all of these. I believe the hard part for them is winning the Regional. St Joe and Argenta are good tourney teams that are not particularly great dual teams.

[StaticTitan33]

Yeah, it does look like a championship dual between montini and dakota in the semis's, however, I think montini could pull out on top of dakota. I also think Prairie Central should be back to form before regional time (thats three weeks to get back up), I'd take PC over Roxana, and then they take 4th in state behind Dakota.

[42?]

Double check the Stanford Sectional match-ups. The last I checked the IHSA site, the sectional pairngs were: Meet 1 - C vs. B and Meet 2 - D vs. A.
The Argenta Regional is listed 1st = A. The Orion Regional is listed 2nd = B. The Stanford Regional is listed 3rd = C. And, the Clinton Regional is listed 4th = D. This would indicate Meet 1 would be Stanford Champ vs. Orion Champ = 2A and Meet 2 would be Argenta Champ vs. Clinton Champ = 2B. This would change your quarter-final round match-ups. I will double check the IHSA site, but I believe this is correct.

[oldtimer]

How crazy is this lol. there are three teams I know of that could make a run in the state series who may not get out of regionals...

riverdale/alleman
Dakota/Stillman
and now monticello/argenta

what ever happened to the top two teams at regionals facing off in a dual the following tuesday or whenever it was.

I penciled Riverdale into the championship match and they have a serious shot of not making it out of regionals.

Stillman could make it to state, not making it out of regionals with dakota there.

Goes back to like the 92-93 season - Riverdale and Sterling Newman were ranked #3 and #1. think riverdale won the regional team dual 30-28 or something. hard to imagine that match not happening.

oh well, just some more thoughts.

[wildcatfever05]

Talk about a screwed up system; Wilmington has had to feed into Sandwich or Montini for how many years now? All of their teams for the last 3 years would have placed in the finals if they had not had to feed into those 2 teams in the 1st round.http://illinoismatmen.com/forum/images/icons/icon8.gif

[crankbait]

Riverdale wont even make it out Alleman will win and Orion is not a sure thing.

[drakestudent]

Is it really a forgone conclusion that Dakota will even make it out of regionals? I think Stillman Valley actually matches up pretty decently against them. Dakota should win at 152, 171, 189, 215, and 275. SV should win at 119, 125, 130, and 160.

103, 112, 135, 140, and 145 look to be pretty even. If Stillman can manage to pull 4 of those out, your pick of Dakota winning state would look pretty silly. :)

Just out of curiousity, does anyone still have the box score from their first meeting?

[oldtimer]

Riverdale wont even make it out Alleman will win and Orion is not a sure thing.
I based my perdiction on PIT where Riverdale took 3rd and Alleman was a lot farther down. I know Alleman had beaten Riverdale in a Dual. If you look at my post, I did state that Riverdale may not get out due to Alleman. The Orion tourney should be a good gauge of the regional.

As far as Orion...I don't know much about them. I would agree they are not a sure thing.

[oldtimer]

Is it really a forgone conclusion that Dakota will even make it out of regionals?
I think it is. Dakota will win the uppers, but they also have a shot of winning 103 and 112. SV the 3 or 4 weights starting at 119, but I don't think they stick close. I may eat my words, but hey, what are message boards for :)