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sweetsweep22
03-06-2006, 02:03 AM
125-Ott (2nd)- ott looked really good in his first two matches. he dominated magnani and controlled the match with dubuque. after seeing his performance, i was excited thinking he may have a shot at beating simmons. simmons was just too tough though. simmons is the best 125lber in the country and should win the NCAAs. on a side note, does anyone else think simmons got shafted not getting the outstanding wrestler of the year award? the kid is undefeated, won the midlands without surrendering a point, and won one of the toughest weights at the big tens in a convincing fashion. i thought he shouldve gotten the award.

133-Flores (5th)- flores wrestled well overall all, handling hernandez pretty well. flores should continue to get better and will be a real competitor in a couple years, especially if he drops to 125. 5th was a good finish for him (how bad is his leg hurt?). side note, the clum/reiter match was the best match of the tournament, very exciting!

141-Pero (8th)- i just dont understand pero. last year i would have said he was the most improved, this year i think he is the most declined. sophomore pero would beat junior pero. i was hoping he would rekindle some spark and remind us why he was an AA last year, but he went 0-3 this weekend. hopefully he pulls it together and has a good showing senior year.

149-T. Tirapelle (2nd)- wow! man this kid is fun to watch! some would say it was bogus, because he did win all three matches without scoring a takedown i believe, but give the kid some credit, he came in unseeded and beat tannenbaum(#3), turner(#6), and eustice(#2). i didnt think he had much of a chance with schlatter, but i wasnt ruling him out! i really wanted to see troy wrap up a cradle and put the freshman phenom on his back. didnt happen though, and troys charge was cut short, hard. schlatter is just a monster. congrats to troy, he wrestled a hell of a tournament, and has a bright future.

157-A. Tirappele (2nd)- ive said it all along, if you can take him down, you can beat him. alex needs OFFENSE!!! why doesnt he get agressive and score? i know he can do it! if alex wants to AA this year, perhaps even have a shot at the title, he is gonna have to wrestle with more offense. if you can take him down you can beat him, cuz he wont try to take you down. i was impressed with how schlatter rode him though. ive always known alex to be a tough guy to ride. alex is a great wrestler, capable of being the best. i just hope he doesnt leave anything on the mat at his last NCAA tournament.

165-Poeta (3rd)- poeta looked to me to be a little flat on saturday, even in the match he won over durkee. he lost what i thought was a very winable match to nagel. but poeta bounced back strong and was his old self again on sunday, and looked real good coming back with a strong third place finish. poeta is very solid, and is going to be a big gun for illinois in the coming years. im looking for a high AA finish from him, hes capable of it.

174-Reynolds (6th)- reynolds had a really good win against boudro in a pretty exciting match. other than that, reynolds wrestled true to his seed. not great, not bad. if he wrestles tough at NCAAs i think he has an outside shot at AA. it will all depends on which reynolds steps on the mat. also- how bad is he hurt?

184-Friedl (2nd)- same story as a. tirapelle, OFFENSE!! i didnt see him take a shot until there was 12 seconds left in the match. he wrestled a defensive match even when he was losing. i dont understand why he doesnt shoot. from what ive seen, when he shoots he usually scores! he has a good shot, why doesnt he use it more often? that championship match was his to lose. he wrestled good in the semis against bradley, but again, i think if he had gotten his offense going he would have won that match easier as well. same with tirapelle, i hope he leaves it all on the mat at his last NCAA. he could win it all.

197- Byrd (2nd)- same story, OFFENSE!! again, that was byrds match to lose. i think he was the better wrestler. byrd could also have a very good NCAA tournament if he wrestles his best. when hes at his best, he is very hard to beat.

HW- Weight (4th)- weight had a good tournament. he ran into a bombshell first match against konrad, but then came through the consolation. he sort of lucked out, not having to wrestle another seeded opponent till the third place match, but ill take it. fourth place from the eigth seed, good tournament for him. how much does he weigh? he looked real small out there.

overall, i think illinois needs to be more aggressive. too many of these guys seem like they arent wrestling to win, rather wrestling not to lose. in my opinion, only three wrestlers performed to their potential this weekend (ott, flores, t. tirapelle). and they still took second as a team, barely missing first! imagine what this squad could do when theyre on fire! if everyone wrestles their best, illinois could have a very good showing at NCAAs. on a side note, how do you think illinois will recover next year? by losing ott, a. tirapelle, friedl and byrd, thats a lot of their firepower. who is gonna step up and replace these guys? is next year going to be a rebuilding year for illinois?

Conquistadors
03-06-2006, 10:34 AM
Sweeps,


Great write-up. You penned many of the observations and thoughts that I had. Just a few comments (aside from being old-fashioned and thinking that capitalization is still a good idea):

125-Ott (2nd)- on a side note, does anyone else think simmons got shafted not getting the outstanding wrestler of the year award? the kid is undefeated, won the midlands without surrendering a point, and won one of the toughest weights at the big tens in a convincing fashion. i thought he shouldve gotten the award. Simmons has indeed had a great year. (Aside: He does have one loss. I know that power's that be make believe that the All-Star match didn't happen, but it was more "real" than a lot of matches in the fall.) I think that Konrad's wins over 2x National Champ is the big factor. I agree with Konrad as the choice. But that isn't to take anything away from Simmons.

133-Flores (5th)- flores wrestled well overall all, handling hernandez pretty well. flores should continue to get better and will be a real competitor in a couple years, especially if he drops to 125. 5th was a good finish for him (how bad is his leg hurt?). side note, the clum/reiter match was the best match of the tournament, very exciting! I agree that Gabe had a great tournament. With a tweaked knee, I was amazed at how he handled Hernandez. Gabe looks too small for 133, so I'm going to assume that he'll be at 125 next season AND will be top 10 at the start of the year.

141-Pero (8th)- i just dont understand pero. Like lots of people, I've been trying to figure out what's with Cassio. I don't see anything obvious in his wrestling.. just very different results. He is simply ineffective (at this level). It makes me wonder if there aren't off-the-mat problems that occupy his mind (which are none of my business). In any event, I hope he keeps things in perspective (wrestling and life). I read on the Illinois site that he got a wild card. I'm shocked at that-- I would not have voted to give him a wild card. I guess returning AA has its advantages.




149-T. Tirapelle (2nd)- wow! man this kid is fun to watch! I'll second that. Wow! What an exciting wrestler. He'll need to improve his neutral wrestling to consistently compete, but Wow, is this guy dangerous on the mat. He is a fun guy to watch. I hope the Illinois coaches don't remove all his go-for-broke style (as they seemingly have done with Alex and Friedl).


157-A. Tirappele (2nd)- ive said it all along, if you can take him down, you can beat him. alex needs OFFENSE!!! Yep & Yep. Mostly, no one can take him down. Remember Alex his first two years? Lots of major decision wins, cradles coming out of nowhere? I think part of lack-of-offense is that a lot of guys have adjusted to his ankle picks and don't allow it.


165-Poeta (3rd)- poeta looked to me to be a little flat on saturday, That was my sense too. He didn't seem to have the fire that I've seen before. I know he has to be careful wrestling these larger & stronger guys, but he also has to guard against getting to tactical. Nagel is a smart, solid wrestler and deserved to win his match.




174-Reynolds (6th)- reynolds had a really good win against boudro in a pretty exciting match. other than that, reynolds wrestled true to his seed. not great, not bad. I agree. Don is really inconsistent. Some great moves, but also seems to forget what's he's doing sometimes. He went form almost having a takedown on Perry to being cradled-- of course, that's what Alex did his first two years. I get the sense with Don that he's never completely believed in his own abilities. Hopefully, his injury isn't too bad.

184-Friedl (2nd)- same story as a. tirapelle, OFFENSE!! i didnt see him take a shot until there was 12 seconds left in the match. he wrestled a defensive match even when he was losing. i dont understand why he doesnt shoot. I agree. Pete, leave it on the mat!! Take some chances... most of them will pay off. And if you lose because you've taken some chances, then at least you've tried. How can you not attack for 1:30 while behind in the third?



197- Byrd (2nd)- same story, OFFENSE!! again, that was byrds match to lose. i think he was the better wrestler. byrd could also have a very good NCAA tournament if he wrestles his best. when hes at his best, he is very hard to beat. I'll disagree a little here. Davis is a dangerous wrestler and had more success at NCAAs last year, so I wouldn't say that it was Tyrone's to lose. Davis wasn't too interested in mixing it up with Tyrone and was quoted as saying that he was watching out for Tyrone duck under (I thought Tyrone's go-to move was a straight-ahead double?). Tyrone's big mistake was trying to put in legs when he had 51 seconds of riding time. (Same thing happened last year at the dual, Byrd tried to put in legs and got reversed to his back.) That was a tactical mistake on Tyrone's part. With 1:09 remaining, Tyrone should have tried to ride Davis for 9 more seconds safely, then cut him if there were any danger of a reversal. This year, when Tyrone pulls the trigger and shoots, he's had a lot of success. If he's too tactical at NCAAs he won't go very far. And Tyrone, don't put legs in-- it has never worked for you.


HW- Weight (4th)- he sort of lucked out, not having to wrestle another seeded opponent till the third place match, but ill take it. Yep, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Matt won the matches he "was supposed to win," which is what got him to the NCAAs. That Kirk Nail was carried off in a stretcher the day before (I was thrilled to see Nail on the podium the next day) helped Matt get to the upper half of the placements.




overall, i think illinois needs to be more aggressive. too many of these guys seem like they arent wrestling to win, rather wrestling not to lose. Absolutely. Guys, go out there and attack. Not recklessly, but take the match TO your opponents.



on a side note, how do you think illinois will recover next year? by losing ott, a. tirapelle, friedl and byrd, thats a lot of their firepower. who is gonna step up and replace these guys? is next year going to be a rebuilding year for illinois?

I think next year looks like a rebuilding year. Probably middle-of-the-pack in Big Ten.

125- Flores (Top 10 start of the year)
133 Gomez or Manzella (Not competitive at Div I level at start of the year)
141 Pero ? (I would guess that he might get challenged here for his spot)
149 Troy T (I'll wait till we see how he does at NCAA to guestimate how he'll do at beginning of the year. Let's safely say top 15)

157 Poeta (Probably top 6 to start the year; let's first see if Mike is cautiously aggressive or flat at NCAAs)
165 Smith-Bergsrud (sp?) ? (Not competitive to start the year)
174 Reynolds (Hopefully, top 6 to start the year)
184 Guida (We'll have to see how he'll do)
197 Bond (We'll have to see how he'll do)
285 Wise (We'll have to see how he'll do)

Lots of question marks. Indeed, 2006-07 looks like a rebuilding year.