Best Wrestling State?

[1203]

Which state has the best high school wrestling?

[Futurethrower]

Originally Posted by 1203

Which state has the best high school wrestling?

...PA & OH

[mckbln]

For individuals...Pa & OH. For teams, it's clearly IL....we put our best on the mat representing our state on a team level and dominated in national competition and that included IA, MN, NJ (and all those Blair boys), OH, and PA. No argument. Three first places in Jr and Cadet team competition. Speculate all you want but there is the bottom line.

[grapplingfan]

Originally Posted by mckbln

For individuals...Pa & OH. For teams, it's clearly IL....we put our best on the mat representing our state on a team level and dominated in national competition and that included IA, MN, NJ (and all those Blair boys), OH, and PA. No argument. Three first places in Jr and Cadet team competition. Speculate all you want but there is the bottom line.

And that made two in a row for the Jr FS, even more dominant that year.
And I think IL has been 3rd or better for the past five years, no other teams can claim anything like that

[ThePeoplesChamp]

Originally Posted by mckbln

For individuals...Pa & OH. For teams, it's clearly IL....we put our best on the mat representing our state on a team level and dominated in national competition and that included IA, MN, NJ (and all those Blair boys), OH, and PA. No argument. Three first places in Jr and Cadet team competition. Speculate all you want but there is the bottom line.

First, last year neither OH or PA sent a team to the Duals because they concentrated on the Disney Duals, so the 2 best teams were out. I'm not saying IL couldn't/wouldn't beat them, but I don't think we would've won if OH and PA's best teams were there. There were also teams from MI, IA, NJ, and other states at the Disney Duals that had some top guys that were not at the Freestyle/Greco Duals. I just wish these 2 events were held at different times.

[Crab Ride]

Peoples Champ... not only did Illinois win the duals last year, but at look at the New Jersey team they beat. Do you honestly think that either PA or OH could have put a better team on the mat? Most of our studs lost... and Ward and Kowulzuc come up big to win it for Team Illinois. It helps with studs that went undefeated like Nowry and Futrell. Still not convinced? Even if you want to add in OH and PA to the mix ( a la Fargo), Illinois had the most points at Fargo as well. I still think Illinois was the best team in the country last year.

[Illifornia]

There is no real way to ever say for sure. You have to also look at Senior Nationals which IL always sends a very thin group talent wise. You also have to look at NCAA results and how the guys do in college. I would say that in any given year that IL is 3-5. PA is hands down the best year in and year out followed by Ohio.

[MR TWISTER]

Originally Posted by Illifornia

There is no real way to ever say for sure. You have to also look at Senior Nationals which IL always sends a very thin group talent wise.

We are working on that. I know that Izzy Martinez is working on taking a full group and will have a BUS available for transportation which will help increase participation. However even thugh the group we have sent in the past 3-4 years has been thin numbers wise they have maxed out talent wise and have done fantastic getting to the podium a lot.

[Tofurky]

I prefer to err on the side of consistent, long-term results. For that reason I don't believe that Illinois is "clearly" the best state team-wise, according to mckbln. I feel that the kids in Illinois have made amazing strides in recent years and are now among the elite states (top five), but consistency dictates that it is Pennsylvania and Ohio by landslides.

[ThePeoplesChamp]

Originally Posted by Crab Ride

Peoples Champ... not only did Illinois win the duals last year, but at look at the New Jersey team they beat. Do you honestly think that either PA or OH could have put a better team on the mat? Most of our studs lost... and Ward and Kowulzuc come up big to win it for Team Illinois. It helps with studs that went undefeated like Nowry and Futrell. Still not convinced? Even if you want to add in OH and PA to the mix ( a la Fargo), Illinois had the most points at Fargo as well. I still think Illinois was the best team in the country last year.

I like your argument, but I still cannot say that IL was the best state last year. There were 10+ PA teams and 5+ OH teams at the Disney Duals. And all the teams were competitive. The depth of PA and OH is unbelievable. I think IL is top 5, no doubt about it, but they have got to show some consistency and some depth to be considered #1.