3 class format is a SHAM!

[1203]

Wouldn't turning team state into a 3 class system would give the IHSA more money?

There will be more ENTIRE TEAMS competing drawing a larger fan base. More parents and friends will be attending because the whole team is involved.


Turning individual state into a one class system will be better for Illinois wrestling. It would let every one know who the real state champ is.

The amount of fans at individual state would be the same or close to the same depending on how big the tournament will be.

[TakeDownTwo]

Originally Posted by greatt slambino

http://www.ihsa.org/announce/2006-07/2007-05-22.htm

This is the site to find how the classes would probably be divided for 3 classes. This school year would have looked like this with 726 member schools:

1A-382 schools-0-603 students
2A-191 schools 604-1508 students
3A-191 schools 1509-above

2 class is this:

1A-425 schools 0-724 students
2A-339 schools 725 and above

The problem is that you are using "member" schools (726) instead of "wrestling" schools (407).

1A-87 schools
2A-142 schools
3A-178 schools

This would be a joke. How can it be fair if all three classes have the same number of state qualifiers? They won't even need a Sectional Tournament for 1A...just four Regionals with 11 schools in each.

There are three ways to fix this:
(1) leave things the way they are now, 1A-113 schools, 2A-294 schools
(2) Keep 1A the way it is now and split 2A in half, 2A-147 schools and 3A-147 schools.
(3) Split all the "wrestling" schools evenly, 1A-136 schools, 2A-136 schools and 3A-135 schools.

I know it is probably pointless but, how do we petition (or educate) the IHSA to make sure they know the best way to do this?

[matador]

Originally Posted by TakeDownTwo

The problem is that you are using "member" schools (726) instead of "wrestling" schools (407).

1A-87 schools
2A-142 schools
3A-178 schools

This would be a joke. How can it be fair if all three classes have the same number of state qualifiers? They won't even need a Sectional Tournament for 1A...just four Regionals with 11 schools in each.

There are three ways to fix this:
(1) leave things the way they are now, 1A-113 schools, 2A-294 schools
(2) Keep 1A the way it is now and split 2A in half, 2A-147 schools and 3A-147 schools.
(3) Split all the "wrestling" schools evenly, 1A-136 schools, 2A-136 schools and 3A-135 schools.

I know it is probably pointless but, how do we petition (or educate) the IHSA to make sure they know the best way to do this?

Despite popular belief, the IHSA is not stupid. Dave Gannaway is a former wrestling coach, so he does know the sport. The IHSA will talk with the Wrestling Advisory Committee http://www.ihsa.org/org/advcomm/adv-wr.htm as well as the Regional Representatives about this.

Fans have NO SAY in this so don't waste your time with a grass roots, 1960s hippy type campaign to save the sport of wrestling. What you can do is notify your head coach, Athletic Director, and most importantly your Principal with the facts and your concerns. They, in turn, can convey this to the IHSA. If enough SCHOOLS are against 3 classes for wrestling, the IHSA will listen. Unfortunately, the schools have not spoken out loud enough to deter the IHSA from moving forward with the 3 class plan. Only 54% of the schools chose to vote on the matter of which 69% believe 3 classes is the way to go.

3 classes, here we come!

[Rebel]

Remember in life when you think it is not about the money ....

IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY!!!

[ctdad]

Originally Posted by pikeboy311

I'm so sick of you downstaters crying about everything.

A new IHSA should be formed in CHICAGO, away from the southerners. They just have no class or decency at all.

We'll form your new association right after they move the state capitol to Chicago. Oh wait, the current Governor still hasn't figured out that the capitol isn't in Chicago. Earth to pikeboy, Illinois is not just Chicago.

Most of the people crying about the new proposal are Chicagoland people, not the other way around. And again, my son attends a large school that would be AAA under any system I've seen, so if anything, it's going to hurt him, as we would be the only AAA school within a 2 hour drive.

[Dondo]

Originally Posted by ctdad

We'll form your new association right after they move the state capitol to Chicago. Oh wait, the current Governor still hasn't figured out that the capitol isn't in Chicago. Earth to pikeboy, Illinois is not just Chicago.

Most of the people crying about the new proposal are Chicagoland people, not the other way around. And again, my son attends a large school that would be AAA under any system I've seen, so if anything, it's going to hurt him, as we would be the only AAA school within a 2 hour drive.

I'm not buying that your son goes to an AAA school, and if he does, he must not start on the wrstling team. If he does, he probably has no chance of making out of Regionals, because your views are stupid.
You are willing to tell the best wrestlers in this State that's it's ok to be at home during the INDIVIDUAL state tournament. I am all for making the A class a better respectable tournament. But squeezing the new AAA class is even more absurd. I am willing to bet you haven't competed or even played a high school sport, it shows.

I love how you use the word "crying" for current AA. YOU obviously don't want to see the better wrestlers at the individual state tournamet.

[greatt slambino]

Originally Posted by Dondo

I'm not buying that your son goes to an AAA school, and if he does, he must not start on the wrstling team. If he does, he probably has no chance of making out of Regionals, because your views are stupid.
You are willing to tell the best wrestlers in this State that's it's ok to be at home during the INDIVIDUAL state tournament. I am all for making the A class a better respectable tournament. But squeezing the new AAA class is even more absurd. I am willing to bet you haven't competed or even played a high school sport, it shows.

I love how you use the word "crying" for current AA. YOU obviously don't want to see the better wrestlers at the individual state tournamet.

Why would the best wrestlers in the state be left at home? Hard to say they are the best if they don't make it out. Montini would be a 2A team in a 3 class system along with some other good schools and that opens the door for more kids to go in 3A. Only 12 kids qualify at 1A right now, and I doubt that would change. My opinion is that in a 3 class system, where there will probably be only 4 sectionals in 2A and 3A, they should take the top 4 finishers and do away with the first round bye for the #1 seeds. There will most likely be some very good 4th place finishers and good first round matches. That also puts a total of 32 kids at state between the two classes versus the current 24 at 2A.

[LOCK Jaw]

Anyone in favor of this system needs to put their head down and run full speed into a brick wall.
This could very well be the worst thing for IL wrestling. It is flat out terrible.

[MR TWISTER]

Let's just give everyone at regionals a medal too...thanks for coming out...

[Ace]

Originally Posted by MR TWISTER

Let's just give everyone at regionals a medal too...thanks for coming out...

AMEN.............