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Public to Private school transfers are required to move outside of their existing school district AND be within a 30-mile radius to be immediately eligible. Extenuating circumstances do exist from time to time. The IHSA rules on each transfer and either grants immediate eligibility, 30 day sit period, or 365 day sit period. Hudson and Saunders both wrestled for Montini last year, so the IHSA must have granted them immediate eligibility based on their circumstances. It has been written on here that Dix was ruled ineligible based on his circumstances.
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This isn't about the strict letter of the law regarding rules violations. It's about the simple fact that this kid has a team and coaches who busted their arse working with him and accomodating his parents. Now their dumping their team, school, and coaches like they're irrelevant.

How is a school supposed to build their program with this kind of selfish b.s.?

I wish the kid luck and it's his right to go to private school. That said, I'm sick of this kind of selfish crap. You can be a state champ without going to Montini, kid. You almost made it in your first year. Inspire your team and your community. Don't just jump ship.

This nit picking argument over the rules is just a cover for the real issue, which is that this kid and his parents have the right to dump their coaches, team, school and community, rather than have self confidence and inspire their team and themselves and that it's bothersome to the rest of us to watch this play out yet again.
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This isn't about the strict letter of the law regarding rules violations. It's about the simple fact that this kid has a team and coaches who busted their arse working with him and accomodating his parents. Now their dumping their team, school, and coaches like they're irrelevant.

How is a school supposed to build their program with this kind of selfish b.s.?

I wish the kid luck and it's his right to go to private school. That said, I'm sick of this kind of selfish crap. You can be a state champ without going to Montini, kid. You almost made it in your first year. Inspire your team and your community. Don't just jump ship.

This nit picking argument over the rules is just a cover for the real issue, which is that this kid and his parents have the right to dump their coaches, team, school and community, rather than have self confidence and inspire their team and themselves and that it's bothersome to the rest of us to watch this play out yet again.
Great point there, I mean If you're one of the top wrestlers in the state and you can either go to Niles West orrr Montini, that right there is a real burner of a question - talk about being on the hot seat.
Selfish? To be put in the best position to excell individually, team wise, acedemically and work with some of the best coaches in the state/counrty - yes that kid is very selfish in that respect.

As far as watching 'this whole thing play out again' what you will probaly watch play out is the Broncos running through the IHSA (AA or AAA) and people complaining about this or that. Bottom line is a place like Montini ATTRACTS premier student-athletes a little more than say Niles west.
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This isn't about the strict letter of the law regarding rules violations. It's about the simple fact that this kid has a team and coaches who busted their arse working with him and accomodating his parents. Now their dumping their team, school, and coaches like they're irrelevant.

How is a school supposed to build their program with this kind of selfish b.s.?

I wish the kid luck and it's his right to go to private school. That said, I'm sick of this kind of selfish crap. You can be a state champ without going to Montini, kid. You almost made it in your first year. Inspire your team and your community. Don't just jump ship.

This nit picking argument over the rules is just a cover for the real issue, which is that this kid and his parents have the right to dump their coaches, team, school and community, rather than have self confidence and inspire their team and themselves and that it's bothersome to the rest of us to watch this play out yet again.
The heroes of the wrestling community are the guys who stay in their home wrestling rooms and raise the level of everyone in it. I don't begrudge anyone for trying to make themselves better and going where they think they need to, but I have more respect for the guys who stay put and become the leaders in their local rooms.
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The heroes of the wrestling community are the guys who stay in their home wrestling rooms and raise the level of everyone in it. I don't begrudge anyone for trying to make themselves better and going where they think they need to, but I have more respect for the guys who stay put and become the leaders in their local rooms.

Well being a hero to Johnny Jockstrap might not get you a college scholarship. We have to remember that the whole getting a free education for wrestling in college is dwindling. Now i dont have a real opinion on this either way, but if for him going to Montini might make it easier to get exposure(due to their schedule and countless national tournaments) then i guess all i can say is good luck.
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Programs like Montini attract wrestlers because they are successful. The college scholarship thought is secondary. Anyone who wrestles to get a college scholarship is misdirecting his energy and efforts. Wrestle for the love of the sport, study and get grades/test scores to go to college.
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The reason Robertson is going to Montini is because they will be AA and he wants to be a 3 time champ, because he knows inAAA it will be so much harder being AAA 3 timer. But if he goes AA , he will need to bring his A game to the offseason to get a scholarship and do much better than he did at filas.

I hope his family plays it smart and moves because the whole wrestling community will be watching them closely.
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The heroes of the wrestling community are the guys who stay in their home wrestling rooms and raise the level of everyone in it. I don't begrudge anyone for trying to make themselves better and going where they think they need to, but I have more respect for the guys who stay put and become the leaders in their local rooms.

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Heroes of the wrestling community? A little bit dramatic don't you think? We must have a different definition of the word Hero. A kid who goes to his local public school and participates in an interscholastic sport is NOT a hero to me.

Can you also clarify "stay put" and "local rooms"? If I live in Joliet and have been trained by the Little Celtics (out of Providence) all my life, is my local room Providence or Joliet Twp. or Joliet Catholic??? Would I earn your respect more by choosing one of these high schools over the other? What would the heroic choice be?
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Programs like Montini attract wrestlers because they are successful. The college scholarship thought is secondary. Anyone who wrestles to get a college scholarship is misdirecting his energy and efforts. Wrestle for the love of the sport, study and get grades/test scores to go to college.

Not really. If you take 2nd as a freshman i think a college scholarship might be on your mind. Get a clue.
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The heroes of the wrestling community are the guys who stay in their home wrestling rooms and raise the level of everyone in it. I don't begrudge anyone for trying to make themselves better and going where they think they need to, but I have more respect for the guys who stay put and become the leaders in their local rooms.

Well put. That's what I meant about inspiring others, which to me is a part of the sport. We never get to see what kids will do in their local high school with their coaches because so many of them transfer to a more well known program.

And yes, I think it does display selfishness to kick your team and coaches to the curb like that.
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