Heffernan Officially Named Head Coach

[Pirate Pride]

Originally Posted by greenlantern

actaully one of ohios best wrestlers runs track chris phillps. Heres why the st ed pipeline is so important. During Russ Helicksons tenure he couldnt keep most of the in state studs in state especially in the clevland area. The Jordan twins, Alan Fried, Joe Heskett, Marcus Mollica, Mike Kulzki, Andy Hrovat, Ryan Bertin, Mark Moos, Ryan Lang, Jeff Knupp, Yoshi Nakurma and many more. Ohio State couldnt keep the kids in state. Than when Tom Ryan gets hired he makes sure he gets Tommy Rowlands and Joe Heskett on staff to try to keep the Ohio kids in Ohio. He hasnt gotten the job done but if Ryan wasnt the coach at Ohio State they wouldnt be the top 2 choices for Jamie Clark Logan Steiber wouldnt of commited there he wouldve followed Cael and they may of missed out on Chris Phillps. Ryan has built a pipeline with ed's he will be able to get Walsh jesuit/ akrons best because of his ties with Joe Heskett and Oak Harbor/ toledo because of jd bergman. Ever since Tom Ryan came in Michgain hasnt been able to recruit ohio the same same with northwestern thats why the wolverines are now building a pipeline with blair because ohio state stole there pipeline.
Buxton will be at libertyville ask him what Blair does and how he gets his kids better

gl ... i don't know too much of the wrestlers metion above, but I'm going to assume they're first team all-american top recruits in their class. With that said... you can't predict these kids would have gone to U of I if U of I would hired one of the coaches you feel is a better fit! Wrestlers pick schools for various reason aside from wreslting for a good program, academics, location, campus, social scene, athletics, girls, partying, etc. Point being there are other things important in life aside from wrestling.

You're knocking U of I for not building the dream of college wrestling, which is unrealistic expectation!!

at the end of day U of I has been a top 15 program in the nation year over year since johnson and heff took over and will continue to do so. You can't acheive this type of success without good solid recruting, which you believe they fail to do so! you probably going to day "well they struggle to attract the top #1 recruits in the country" well that's relative speaking, moreover it's extremely hard for all program to get these blue chippers, unless of course you're John Smith, Iowa, or Cael Sanderson.

U of I is a successful wrestling program... let it go and accept it!!!

[MR TWISTER]

gl, you have picked the wrong day to pick on Illinois...anytime there is a new hire in any sport optimism runs high. And then for you to come on an Illinois site and say that on Day One Heff was an okay choice but they should of got so and so is just gonna piss people off. And then to follow that up with this kid and that kid is great and this is what Illinois needs to be better is just as bad. First all of those kids from Steiber to Palmer to Clark have yet to win a college match. No matter who you were in h.s. everyone starts new in college. Until they win a title I don't think they can be looked upon as Illinois saviors that got away. And some kids want to get away. Every kid does not want to stay in-state. That is a fact.

Most programs can only afford to have so many out of state kids on their scholarship roster because of financial constraints. 2-3 at the most if that many.

I say give Heff a chance. You can't say what he can't do because he has not coached a match yet. He just might be the next Tom Ryan or Brands. Or he might just become the next Heff.

[greenlantern]

if he becomes the next heff then he will be a billonare and he surrounded by beautful girls

[greenlantern]

if you think this is bad you wouldnt of wanted to be there when I explained to 40 people why jay cutler probaly will backfire

[Pirate Pride]

Originally Posted by greenlantern

if you think this is bad you wouldnt of wanted to be there when I explained to 40 people why jay cutler probaly will backfire

You're so Bill O'Reily!! lol

[greenlantern]

you cant even compare me commenting about the hire to rush limbaughs critsim of obama

[Park57]

Originally Posted by greenlantern

actaully one of ohios best wrestlers runs track chris phillps. Heres why the st ed pipeline is so important. During Russ Helicksons tenure he couldnt keep most of the in state studs in state especially in the clevland area. The Jordan twins, Alan Fried, Joe Heskett, Marcus Mollica, Mike Kulzki, Andy Hrovat, Ryan Bertin, Mark Moos, Ryan Lang, Jeff Knupp, Yoshi Nakurma and many more. Ohio State couldnt keep the kids in state. Than when Tom Ryan gets hired he makes sure he gets Tommy Rowlands and Joe Heskett on staff to try to keep the Ohio kids in Ohio. He hasnt gotten the job done but if Ryan wasnt the coach at Ohio State they wouldnt be the top 2 choices for Jamie Clark Logan Steiber wouldnt of commited there he wouldve followed Cael and they may of missed out on Chris Phillps. Ryan has built a pipeline with ed's he will be able to get Walsh jesuit/ akrons best because of his ties with Joe Heskett and Oak Harbor/ toledo because of jd bergman. Ever since Tom Ryan came in Michgain hasnt been able to recruit ohio the same same with northwestern thats why the wolverines are now building a pipeline with blair because ohio state stole there pipeline.
Buxton will be at libertyville ask him what Blair does and how he gets his kids better

You do realize that Joe Heskett, Tommy Rowlands, Jeff Knupp, Marcus Molica and the jordans did not go to st. Eds? St. Ed's kids spread around when they leave high school. Hellickson was stupid for not getting any ohio kids.

[greenlantern]

Yes I agree hellickson was dum for not doing it. Johnson got some good Ohio kids in Ott and jAYNE and they got Sam White. Hopefully they get some more so they can crack the top 5 more often

[bmoline]

Originally Posted by Joel Karr

Thanks Brian (Moline) for all your updates. Always great to have a wrestling fan that recieves sports news releases in Champaign.

Thanks again!

I think Hunter was paid through the boosters or some other outside source. Pretty sure this is common for most larger programs. University has 3 official positions but people like Hunter or some of the guys who stay around and train like Matt Lackey or Adam Tirapelle can get some money from the Boosters.

Joel, no problem. Glad you're able to follow our coverage. You're right about Hunter. He is applying for the second assistant spot, which is paid for by the university. The spot he currently has is funded from outside sources.

[greenlantern]

Yes zbcoach I listen to evrything they say on the message boards. That is why I believe and persuaded that wrestling in new york was 20x tougher in the 70's than it is now