2 up 1 down????

[Huskies]

a wrestler certifies at 145, doesnt make weight, weighs in at 152, and the wrestles 160. if i read correctly he cannot go back down to 145 without re certifying correct? or is it only moving up 1 weight because he weighed in at 152.(which in my opinion would be another horrible loop in the system)

[Artheritis]

If a guy certifies @ 145, he is allowed to weigh-in (1) weight class above (152), and from there he is allowed to bump up (1) weight and still maintain his 145 certification.

[Huskies]

Originally Posted by Artheritis

If a guy certifies @ 145, he is allowed to weigh-in (1) weight class above (152), and from there he is allowed to bump up (1) weight and still maintain his 145 certification.

so then the reason the rule was instituted is as silly as the way wwe enforce it. wrestling @ 160 and then going down to 145 is a nice drop ovr time, but to do it in 1 week. I mean if he weighed in at 148 why not 152, but to bump up to 160, wrestle 12 pounds under, and then drop back down makes it pointless to have the whole rule ( BTW the system sucks and actually PROMOTES extreme weight loss). Anyway was just wondering thanks Artheritis

[Formerwrestler]

You have to look at it fromthis stand point. I'm not sure who you're talking about,But just say the guy did weigh-in at 148, and it was a dual meet, maybe it was best for the team for himto wrestle up at 160. Happens a lot. Or, he wanted to wrestle bigger competition.

[Huskies]

Originally Posted by Formerwrestler

You have to look at it fromthis stand point. I'm not sure who you're talking about,But just say the guy did weigh-in at 148, and it was a dual meet, maybe it was best for the team for himto wrestle up at 160. Happens a lot. Or, he wanted to wrestle bigger competition.

I'm not talking about anyone, I just threw a wieight class up there that would highlight the flaw. could be the same with a few weights. I understand the whole line up/match up theory, believe me, I just think that we are so concerneed with watching match counts and off season contact that we fail to see the elephant in the room. The current system while initiated to help stop unsafe weight cutting has in fact lead to even more wieght cutting.

[WRFAN99]

The fact that he wrestled 160 means nothing. What did he weigh in at? If he weigh in at 152 that is only dropping one class. If he missed weight at 152 and wrestled 160 that is when the rules kick in and say you can not go back to 145.

[Formerwrestler]

So i'm assuming you're someone who is against weight cutting. Is that correct? Your entitled to your own opinion. I know the IHSA has flawed rules and there is loop holes that will and have been found. Personally,I feel this way about weight-cutting. I don't promote it when it is just way too much, but to a degree I believe it is good. In my opinion it is part of the sport and has always has been and if it isn't,kinda breaks tradition. Do I believe rules to a degree should be in place, Yes! Another stand I take on weight cutting is I believe it develops discipline. I think if the individual feels it is what is best for himself and the team within reason, do what you have to do. The responsibility level lies with the individual, coach,and immediate family.

[Huskies]

[quote=Formerwrestler;264822]So i'm assuming you're someone who is against weight cutting. Is that correct? Depends I cut too much wight in HS and College and that was my focus, kinda bit me in the butt, I'd rather them be hungry for a match not a meal. But I have kids who cut, and like you I step in when they or their parents think 18 pounds is reasonable because the sheet of paper says so Your entitled to your own opinion. I know the IHSA has flawed rules and there is loop holes that will and have been found. Personally,I feel this way about weight-cutting. I don't promote it when it is just way too much, but to a degree I believe it is good. In my opinion it is part of the sport and has always has been and if it isn't,kinda breaks tradition. Do I believe rules to a degree should be in place, Yes! Another stand I take on weight cutting is I believe it develops discipline. I think if the individual feels it is what is best for himself and the team within reason, do what you have to do. The responsibility level lies with the individual, coach,and immediate family. We seem to be agreeing. My OP was a question to promote discussion about a kid weighing in at 145 and then wrestling 160 I was just pointing out the obivous, he either weighed in at 145 and bumped up 2 classes, or did not make 145 and weghed in at 152 and bumped up 1 either way he wrestled 2 classes above what he certified at and will still be allowed to come back down. I think thre are several rules and interpretations in which we as coaches can have a direct influence on if we bring them to light, and point out the flaws. Tradition is fine but has no place when it laughs in the face of common sense.

[MatsDad]

Rule 4-4, Art 2. A contestant shall not wrestle more than one weight class above that class for which the actual weight, at the time of weigh-in, qualifies the competitor.

[applevalley4]

Originally Posted by MatsDad

Rule 4-4, Art 2. A contestant shall not wrestle more than one weight class above that class for which the actual weight, at the time of weigh-in, qualifies the competitor.

I think this is how it works . Once the wrestler weighs in at scratch weight ( 145 in your case ) , he cannot wrestle 160 again . So a wrestler can certify at 145 , wrestle 152 and 160 throughout the season , but once he makes scratch 145 , he cannot wrestle more than one weight class above that weight . Someone should be able to confirm this .