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While getting back on the topic of Montell Marion, I just heard that he will be officially rejoining the team prior to Midlands. I'm not sure how crediable the source is, but its coming from a parent of another wrestler on the Iowa team.
His father told me he is not wrestling at Midlands.
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His father also told me there will be no wrestle off. And if there was Marion would win. There is a reason he is a starter and national finalist. And that reason is he is the best in the room at that weight. I have heard that from several people on the team.

One more thing. Brands is not nor was he ever mad at Marion. He was seeking ways to keep Marion in the program, not ways to get rid of him for Ballweg or anyone else. Brands knows this kid is a special athlete, he is just waiting for him tk grow up.
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1. As stated the verbiage used when he was removed from the team was not correct, not the first time PR people mess up.

2. Marion has had 3 incidents while at Iowa: A fight, breaking a car window in Des Moines (he paid for the window, no charges filed) and a DUI for sitting on a moped. He does have a problem with alcohol and all 3 things were done while drinking. The thing is that the school never attempted to get him any help for the drinking and that it usually the first thing they do when a student athlete has a problem. The reason he has a crack in the door to come back is due to the school realizing they have not previously given him the support to overcome his drinking problem. He has gotten help, stayed out of trouble and has been doing very well in the classroom.

3. Brands will not boot Ballweg from 141 for Marion. Marion will have to earn a spot through at the least a wrestle off.

4. Since Montell has finally gotten help and is doing well I don't have issue with him getting a last chance. Long had a last chance waiting at ISU but he did not want to clean his act up enough to take advantage of it. At least Brands (as did KJ) put in the work to help a young man try to turn his life around. Montell has done it so far while Long decided to run away from his situation. The coach I see as most deperate and concerned with winning is Sanderson who seems to be willing to grab and use a guy who had not earned his way back on the ISU team at one of PSU's two worst weights.

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What does this do for Iowa's team this season?
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What does this do for Iowa's team this season?
Adds another All American and national finalist. Adds experience to the line up. Adds another kid with aittude and that Iowa swagger to the line up. Other than that... Nothing much else.
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His father also told me there will be no wrestle off. And if there was Marion would win. There is a reason he is a starter and national finalist. And that reason is he is the best in the room at that weight. I have heard that from several people on the team.
That wasn't the case until mid-January last season. Had Joe Slaton not had his academic issues that kept him from being a part of the team in 2009-10 and Dan LeClere not been injured (I believe), most people would be scratching their heads at the mention of Montell Marion's name.
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Adds another All American and national finalist. Adds experience to the line up. Adds another kid with aittude and that Iowa swagger to the line up. Other than that... Nothing much else.
You're saying that Marion doesn't make both Ramos and Chiri better? I don't buy it. I think that, in spite of Chiri, Iowa now becomes a legit contender for a top four finish come Philadelphia.

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According to yeterday's hawkcentral.com report Marion had just filed for reinstatement and there is no decision yet.
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According to yeterday's hawkcentral.com report Marion had just filed for reinstatement and there is no decision yet.
Yeah we know that. That is the public statement. Behind the scenes they (his family and teammates) are saying he will (or is) be re-instated. In reality nothing will happen nor will the public know until the administration makes it official.
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You're saying that Marion doesn't make both Ramos and Chiri better? I don't buy it. I think that, in spite of Chiri, Iowa now becomes a legit contender for a top four finish come Philadelphia.

ps - I received your message the other night and will call you back soon.
He can't make them better if he is not practicing with the team. Now once he is back yes he will make them bette, that is a given. I never said he didn't I just feel what I posted is the immediate impact.

I agree adding Marion makes them a top 4 team now with an outside chance to get higher. 141 was going to be a real problem if Ballweg did not get deep into the tournament. Marion has proven he can get to the mountain top and once you have been there you know how to get back.
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