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Old 01-03-2012
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Teachers Union Strike / IHSA Athletics

Will our kids be able to compete ? Can parents organize to keep the kids from losing thier season ? I have heard from yes to no, to anything in between.

Someone told me that athletics would be evaluated on a case by case basis...... what does that mean ? Basketball yes, others no ?

The biggest losers in this will be the students.

Who hired the decision makers here? & when are the next elections !

Does anyone know the IHSA rules on this ?
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Old 01-03-2012
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6. Strike Policy
The IHSA Board of Directors, in conformity with policy established by the Illinois State Board of Education for strike situations, has
ruled that a member school which does not have fifty-one (51%) percent of the students in the district in attendance and cannot offer the minimum program required by state law and ISBE Circular Series A160 on a daily basis shall not engage in interscholastic activities.
IHSA By-laws 3.012 and 3.015, relating to attendance requirements and eligibility requirements of interscholastic participants, and Bylaw 2.050, relating to schools with which contests may be held, shall be enforced.
The decision of the Board of Directors will not apply to time designated by the local Board of Education as school holidays or vacations, including the Illinois Code provision for five emergency days, provided school is in full operation on the school day preceding the school
holiday.
Under the following criteria, practice sessions of the normal length and frequency may be held during the period when school is not
fully operating:
1. They must be approved by the local Board of Education and school administration.
2. They must be conducted by personnel who meet the provisions of By-law 2.070.
3. They must be conducted in such manner that assures the health and safety of the participants.
4. Students from a school on strike may not practice with a team from a school which is not on strike.
Strike Policy — Participation in State Series During Strike
If a school is on strike and not in legal session, as defined by the State Board of Education, on the date of the beginning competition in
any IHSA state series, students from that school may not participate in the state series.
However, when students from any member school first participate in the beginning level of competition in a given state series that state
series is considered to have begun for all entered schools. If any school subsequently incurs a strike, the qualified teams and/or students will
be permitted to continue participating in the state series, so far as the IHSA strike policy is concerned, even though their school may not be in
legal session on the dates of subsequent state series competition in that sport.
Participation During Weather or Other Emergencies
The IHSA strike policy does not restrict schools from participating in activities on days when school is not held due to weather or other
emergency situations.
The policy relates only to situations in which school is not operating due to strike circumstances.
Host Activity During Strike
A school that is on strike may host an interscholastic event in which other schools participate. The striking school simply may not participate in the event.


Copied from here http://ihsa.org/documents/forms/2011...2-policies.pdf
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Old 01-04-2012
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Will our kids be able to compete ? Can parents organize to keep the kids from losing thier season ? I have heard from yes to no, to anything in between.

Someone told me that athletics would be evaluated on a case by case basis...... what does that mean ? Basketball yes, others no ?

The biggest losers in this will be the students.

Who hired the decision makers here? & when are the next elections !

Does anyone know the IHSA rules on this ?
This may be a dumb question, but what teachers and school systems are going on strike now?... it's kind of getting out of hand how most teachers think about themselves with money but do not realize they have a job and some people in this economy do not. I understand they need to earn money to put food on the table, but what about these students and their futures.

Teachers arent the only ones at fault, but they can do alot so these things wont happen
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Old 01-04-2012
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This may be a dumb question, but what teachers and school systems are going on strike now?... it's kind of getting out of hand how most teachers think about themselves with money but do not realize they have a job and some people in this economy do not. I understand they need to earn money to put food on the table, but what about these students and their futures.

Teachers arent the only ones at fault, but they can do alot so these things wont happen
It's a two-way street, unfortunately. Sometimes teachers (or rather their union) have to threaten to strike in order to get the attention of the school boards. I can't speak for all teachers, but you don't get into the teaching profession because of the money. I know CPS is threatening to strike this spring. Not sure about other school districts.
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This may be a dumb question, but what teachers and school systems are going on strike now?... it's kind of getting out of hand how most teachers think about themselves with money but do not realize they have a job and some people in this economy do not. I understand they need to earn money to put food on the table, but what about these students and their futures.

Teachers arent the only ones at fault, but they can do alot so these things wont happen
Maybe if teachers were paid what they were really worth, they wouldn't have to strike. They are underpaid and WAY underappreciated! With your attitude, no wonder people don't want to be teachers!
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I would not say teachers are underpaid unless you are talking about private school teachers. The average public school teacher makes way way more than the average private school teacher. If the gov't wasn't using our money to pay the teachers, they would make much less and have less benefits.
Most of the teachers I know make a pretty good chunk of change. They may start out low on the pay scale, but they sure seem to do OK as after a few years. I do admit, they are often under appreciated and overworked with a lot of paperwork BS, but never would I say they are underpaid. lets not even get into the 3 and a 1/2 months they get off every year.
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Maybe if teachers were paid what they were really worth, they wouldn't have to strike. They are underpaid and WAY underappreciated! With your attitude, no wonder people don't want to be teachers!
Not to go too political on you big guy, but the emerging research indicates that teachers are likely overpaid, and the fact that everyone always says they are "under-appreciated" makes me think the opposite is probably true. The opposite is certainly true as it goes to most wrestling coaches.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate...chers-overpaid
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If your teachers are on strike, no practice, or competitions of any kind at the school or with school employees. I have seen this happen to fall sports before. Football teams have had to forfiet games because of a strike.
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Not to go too political on you big guy, but the emerging research indicates that teachers are likely overpaid, and the fact that everyone always says they are "under-appreciated" makes me think the opposite is probably true. The opposite is certainly true as it goes to most wrestling coaches.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate...chers-overpaid
Ah, what do you know? You are "justaguy?!" LOL
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Teachers are not under paid. What lacks in their anual pay, gets made up for in their beneifits. They have an excellenct medical and pension plan. That is why they are under paid on their checks. You have someone that works for about 7 months making great money for 7 months. That is not including their bebeifits. I would like to work for 7 months and get 50,000 to god know what. Plus after they are tenured in, it is very hard for that person to get to get laid off or fired. Most have a job with no worries for life. And when they retire they get something along the lines of 80% of their from the last 3 years they work. This mainly for the public schools though. That is a completely different story.
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