Ways To Improve IKWF

[The Hammer]

Originally Posted by BigBashWrestling

Our tournament format is the best version of a state tournament more so than the one the IKWF and IHSA run.

We have FULL wrestlebacks with NO WALKOVERS.

Lets face it, Most of the top midgets wrestle down in Danville year in and year out. To those kids who wrestle some steep competition it is a state title to them. I never hear kids complaining about Midget State either, and isnt that what it is all about at the end of the day the kids.

Let us not forget K is for KIDS!

The solution of starting the tournament on a Thursday will not work either... What are teams for example from Carbondale or East St. Louis areas supposed to do, leave Wednesday so they can make the weigh in? 4 nights in a hotel, doesnt seem to realistic. Just my two cents.

It is not about 4 days in a hotel for adding Midgets to Novice/Senior state. Lots of down time right now at state and it can be done in same number of days. At national events they go late and stagger the ages to get it done. Why not IL?

[rubyjewell]

[quote=The Hammer;408934]no bantams and tots at regionals, end the season for them at a specified date. The IKWF can do this by refusing to sanction events that have wrestlers at this age division after the agreeed upon date. Burns out the families and the kids.


I completely disagree. It is not IKWF's job to tell families they are "burned out". If your kid and your family can't hadle the "long" season, then stay home. It is a parents job to realize that their child is burnt out. Don't punish the kids that are dedicated to this sport by lessening their opportunity for mat time.

[TappedOut]

Originally Posted by rubyjewell

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I completely disagree. It is not IKWF's job to tell families they are "burned out". If your kid and your family can't hadle the "long" season, then stay home. It is a parents job to realize that their child is burnt out. Don't punish the kids that are dedicated to this sport by lessening their opportunity for mat time.

I agree with you, most tot and bantam kids don't wrestle every weekend and may only do 1 or 2 each month.

[Blonjuan44]

Better concentrations of closer competition. Most of the other sports do it: A league, B league, etc... - the only thing that IKWF currently does is rookie rumbles - but that is small % compared to all the intermediates... Elite wrestlers should stay out of some tourneys, total mis-matches just waste everyones time and drivies kids out of the sport..

[petersenkid2]

Originally Posted by Blonjuan44

Better concentrations of closer competition. Most of the other sports do it: A league, B league, etc... - the only thing that IKWF currently does is rookie rumbles - but that is small % compared to all the intermediates... Elite wrestlers should stay out of some tourneys, total mis-matches just waste everyones time and drivies kids out of the sport..

Good point. We went to a club tournment in Nebraska once where the participants signed up for "novice" or "elite". In effect, it was two different tournaments running at the same time.

This let the participants choose their level of competition.

By the way, this tournament also had staged age groups... youngest start at 8:00, next level starts at 11:00, next level starts at 2:00. We were in and out with 3 matches for each kid in less than 2.5 hours - including weigh-ins.

[Blonjuan44]

Originally Posted by petersenkid2

By the way, this tournament also had staged age groups... youngest start at 8:00, next level starts at 11:00, next level starts at 2:00. We were in and out with 3 matches for each kid in less than 2.5 hours - including weigh-ins.

I've seen Judo tourneys done like that, also sometimes they just go through the whole bracket until its done - so you only get about 20 minutes between matches - but then you can get out of there...- kids recover pretty quick plus only about 50% of matches are a tough one anyway.

[petersenkid2]

Originally Posted by Blonjuan44

I've seen Judo tourneys done like that, also sometimes they just go through the whole bracket until its done - so you only get about 20 minutes between matches - but then you can get out of there...- kids recover pretty quick plus only about 50% of matches are a tough one anyway.

At USAW Folkstyle Nationals, the rule is 15 minutes between matches.

[Motumoyo]

I think you can run without adding a new day novice and intermediates for the elderly.

[The Hammer]

[quote=rubyjewell;409182]

Originally Posted by The Hammer

no bantams and tots at regionals, end the season for them at a specified date. The IKWF can do this by refusing to sanction events that have wrestlers at this age division after the agreeed upon date. Burns out the families and the kids.


I completely disagree. It is not IKWF's job to tell families they are "burned out". If your kid and your family can't hadle the "long" season, then stay home. It is a parents job to realize that their child is burnt out. Don't punish the kids that are dedicated to this sport by lessening their opportunity for mat time.

It is good to disagree, just offering suggestions. But you sound insane taking about dedicated tots and weak parents who get burned out sitting in a gym all day.

Your right on 1 thing, it is the parents responsibility not the IKWF's.