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Old 06-23-2012
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wrestler's may compete for club and school in 2012

The I.E.S.A. Board of Director's changed one of the bylaws regarding athletes competing on club teams and school teams at the same time. Local school districts can still enforce a policy for their schools but it will be a local policy and not an I.E.S.A. policy. Please read the following article to answer any questions.

Non-School Participation Eligibility and Coaching School Participation During the Season Become Local Decisions

At their June 15, 2012 meeting, the IESA Board of Directors acted on a recommendation of an action team committee that was responsible for reviewing By-Law 3.042. The committee, part of the strategic planning process of the Association, has been discussing this rule for the past 6 months. The committee was comprised of coaches. A.D.'s, parents, club reps, and principals.

Their charge was to review all of the issues regarding By-Law 3.042 and either recommend to the IESA Board of Directors to leave the rule as is or recommend a change to the rule. The committee decided after reviewing all of the information regarding the rule to recommend to the IESA Board that the rule be dropped. In essence, the decision as to whether students can compete on a school team and a non-school team at the same time would be left up to the individual schools to decide.

The IESA Board of Directors approved this committee's recommendation.

Therefore, effective July 1, 2012, the decision as to whether students can do school and non-school participation at the same time in the same sport is a local decision. If the local district would decide that students cannot do both at the same time and a student participates in both at the same time, he/she would be in violation of a local policy and not an IESA rule. While this decision may come as a surprise to some, the rationale for the change is sound. The truth is that there are so many opportunities for students to participate in non-school competitions during the school year (in all sports) that the By-Law has become almost impossible for the school to insure compliance. In many ways, the only schools that were penalized were those who were honest enough to self-report a violation or who were turned in by some other individual or school, often times without any knowledge by the school that a student was participating in non-school competition. With this change, the local district will decide and monitor the situation.

In addition, because the decision is now up to the local school, the by-law that prevented students from participating in camps and clinics during the sport season has also been deleted. The decision as to whether or not students can participate in a camp or clinic during a sport season is entirely up to the local school.

These changes are sure to raise some eyebrows but the number of opportunities for students to participate in clubs and coaching schools is simply unbelievable in today's world. As the organization that is responsible for ensuring fairness amongst our member schools, the only way we can be totally fair and equitable was to insure that everyone was penalized if there were violators. Unfortunately, this was not the case as there were plenty of kids doing both and only a handful that were being penalized. That simply was not fair
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Old 06-23-2012
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great move by the iesa.
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Old 06-23-2012
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Hope to see some top iesa teams at the Lil Celtic and other elite tourneys
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Old 06-24-2012
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Hope to see some top iesa teams at the Lil Celtic and other elite tourneys
I may be wrong in my interpretation but I believe the rule has not been changed that prevents school teams from competing against non-school teams. School teams still won't be able to wrestle club teams but looks like individuals could wrestle IKWF Sunday meets. I'd call IESA to make sure but I haven't seen anything that allows IESA school teams to wrestle in club tournaments.
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Old 06-24-2012
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Another thing I notice about the new rule based on the way the information is written on the IESA website is that a school could still not allow the wrestlers to wrestle club and school. It says something about it being a local decision. My guess is that means schools could still not allow it. It will be interesting to see if there are schools that still say their wrestlers can't do both at the same time. Hope the change doesn't lead to burnout. What would happen if a local school says no but a kid still wrestles club at the same time? Violation of local policy I guess...
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Old 06-24-2012
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Another thing I notice about the new rule based on the way the information is written on the IESA website is that a school could still not allow the wrestlers to wrestle club and school. It says something about it being a local decision. My guess is that means schools could still not allow it. It will be interesting to see if there are schools that still say their wrestlers can't do both at the same time. Hope the change doesn't lead to burnout. What would happen if a local school says no but a kid still wrestles club at the same time? Violation of local policy I guess...
This is correct. The school could adopt a policy that didn't allow both. If a boy wrestled against school policy then he would be subject to whatever their discipline procedures are at that school. You were also correct about having to wrestle another school team. But this new policy of the IESA would allow kids that may not get many matches on a "jv" level to hit up some Sunday tournaments for more mat time. Also would allow kids the opportunity for clinics and camps during the season, which I think will be the greatest benefit to a school team.
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Im not sure where this would effect anyone but there is still a certain amount of matches that may be wrestled as well as a number of tournaments so this is something to be careful of so as not to be ineligible for the post season
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Can they enter both STATE Tournaments? Are they the same time? If they can wrestle in both I think it's wrong and should be changed back. I see that XC went to 3 classes for IESA Should wrestling go to 2?
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Old 06-26-2012
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Can they enter both STATE Tournaments? Are they the same time? If they can wrestle in both I think it's wrong and should be changed back. I see that XC went to 3 classes for IESA Should wrestling go to 2?
Both state tournaments are the same weekend.
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Old 06-26-2012
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Can they enter both STATE Tournaments? Are they the same time? If they can wrestle in both I think it's wrong and should be changed back. I see that XC went to 3 classes for IESA Should wrestling go to 2?
Not enough school teams enter the IESA state series to warrant going to two classes. Roughly 140 schools enter the state series. By splitting there would be about 70 schools per class...travel would become a big issue for some areas if there were two classes.
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