Again why do you care what Mr rocks for brains thinks, we all know he's been indoctrinated. Not an original thought in his head just like any other cultist
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Originally posted by Fighting Scot View PostHopefully, Putin’s insanity and barbarism in Ukraine will turn people off to strongmen, authoritarianism, demagogues, hard nationalism, and the “strong” people versus “weak” people mindset.
For more than a decade, strongmen have been on the rise globally and traditional Western democracies have suffered receding influence. Citizens have been seduced by chest-thumping hard-liners who stir up cultural wars and promise a return to glory. That’s how India’s Narenda Modi, a hardline nationalist, got 229 million votes in India. In Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro ran on the message “Brazil above everything” and received 57 million votes. Putin got 56 million votes in 2018, while his closest competitor got 8 million. Don’t forget about Hungary’s Viktor Orban or Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus. All these strongmen have taken advantage of a worldwide hard-right shift. Hundreds of millions of people prefer their hard-core leadership approaches to traditional Western democracy. The a uthoritarian is perceived as strong while the typical Western democratic leader is understood to be a joke—soft, permissive, and stupid.
But Putin’s stomach-turning assault has exposed the dark soul of strongman/cultural warrior leadership. People see the slaughter and the insanity in Ukraine. They also are getting a first-hand look at the shocking ineptitude of the strongman. In just a month, Putin’s mighty army has six dead generals, 15,000 or more soldiers killed in action, and hundreds of destroyed tanks. So much for Putin’s “strong” leadership. The democracies that he viewed as a joke are now humiliating him. The only thing Putin’s thugs can succeed at is shooting long range rockets into cities, slaughtering children and the elderly. On top of that, people are witnessing how Putin has brainwashed his people through ultra-patriotic, Russia-First state-run television and radio. Many clueless Russians have no idea that their army is slaughtering civilians in Ukraine. They actually believe Putin’s propaganda that he is liberating Ukraine from Nazis. By crushing Russia’s liberal media, Putin totally controls the message. For the Russian public, it’s pro-Russia, pro-Putin patriotism day and night.
The result has been ugly. Maybe Putin’s repulsiveness will turn people off to strongmen, authoritarians, and anger-based leadership. Those who romanticized strongman leaders as the remedy for liberalism now see how brutal, crazy, and ineffective the authoritarian is. Putin might have inadvertently swung the pendulum away from authoritarianism and back toward democracy. If this is true, the result will be a more stable and prosperous world.
Russia, China and India are forming their own New World Order. It is terrifying to see how far America has fallen at the hands of weak politicians. America was great because America was good. Now we have a Resident in Chief who has taken money from Russia, China, Ukraine and anybody else that wants to buy influence.
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Originally posted by Fighting Scot View PostHopefully, Putin’s insanity and barbarism in Ukraine will turn people off to strongmen, authoritarianism, demagogues, hard nationalism, and the “strong” people versus “weak” people mindset.
For more than a decade, strongmen have been on the rise globally and traditional Western democracies have suffered receding influence. Citizens have been seduced by chest-thumping hard-liners who stir up cultural wars and promise a return to glory. That’s how India’s Narenda Modi, a hardline nationalist, got 229 million votes in India. In Brazil, Jair Bolsonaro ran on the message “Brazil above everything” and received 57 million votes. Putin got 56 million votes in 2018, while his closest competitor got 8 million. Don’t forget about Hungary’s Viktor Orban or Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus. All these strongmen have taken advantage of a worldwide hard-right shift. Hundreds of millions of people prefer their hard-core leadership approaches to traditional Western democracy. The a uthoritarian is perceived as strong while the typical Western democratic leader is understood to be a joke—soft, permissive, and stupid.
But Putin’s stomach-turning assault has exposed the dark soul of strongman/cultural warrior leadership. People see the slaughter and the insanity in Ukraine. They also are getting a first-hand look at the shocking ineptitude of the strongman. In just a month, Putin’s mighty army has six dead generals, 15,000 or more soldiers killed in action, and hundreds of destroyed tanks. So much for Putin’s “strong” leadership. The democracies that he viewed as a joke are now humiliating him. The only thing Putin’s thugs can succeed at is shooting long range rockets into cities, slaughtering children and the elderly. On top of that, people are witnessing how Putin has brainwashed his people through ultra-patriotic, Russia-First state-run television and radio. Many clueless Russians have no idea that their army is slaughtering civilians in Ukraine. They actually believe Putin’s propaganda that he is liberating Ukraine from Nazis. By crushing Russia’s liberal media, Putin totally controls the message. For the Russian public, it’s pro-Russia, pro-Putin patriotism day and night.
The result has been ugly. Maybe Putin’s repulsiveness will turn people off to strongmen, authoritarians, and anger-based leadership. Those who romanticized strongman leaders as the remedy for liberalism now see how brutal, crazy, and ineffective the authoritarian is. Putin might have inadvertently swung the pendulum away from authoritarianism and back toward democracy. If this is true, the result will be a more stable and prosperous world.
Russia, China and India are forming their own New World Order. It is terrifying to see how far America has fallen at the hands of weak politicians. America was great because America was good. Now we have a Resident in Chief who has taken money from Russia, China, Ukraine and anybody else that wants to buy influence.
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Originally posted by oldpioneer View Post
MAL, can't you stop cutting and pasting and actually read a post and respond. Authoritarian leaders, silencing dissent, rejecting the press, sound familiar???
It's a strange time when all conspiracy theories become conspiracy fact.
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The evil Republicans are at it again...suppressing the illegal alien vote.
HUGE: Arizona Republicans Pass HB2492 Requiring ALL Voters To Provide Proof Of Citizenship Upon Registering To Vote
Original article. A great step in the right direction toward restoring Election Integrity.
By Jordan Conradson
Published April 1, 2022
Republicans in the Arizona Legislature passed a critical election integrity bill that requires all voters to provide satisfactory evidence of citizenship to be properly registered to vote.
State Rep. Jake Hoffman’s HB2492 also applies to Federal Only voters who are not required to show this documentation when registering to vote.
Currently, 13,077 Federal Only voters are actively registered in Maricopa County. Proof of citizenship is not required for these voters to vote in federal elections. Biden took the state by only 10,457 votes.
The new law will require Federal Only voters to prove their citizenship before voting or receiving a ballot in the mail.
HB2492 was signed into law by the Governor on Wednesday.
This law will require officers in charge of elections to verify citizenship status within ten days of receiving a voter registration form, and they must reject registrations that lack proof of citizenship. Illegal voter registrations must be presented to the Attorney General, who will have a duty to investigate and prosecute these crimes.
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US Postal Service Refuses to Release Investigative Report on Whistleblower Truck Driver Who Hauled 288,000 Suspicious Ballots Across State Lines Before 2020 Election
Original article. Now the US Post Office is officially part of the coverup.
By Joe Hoft
Published April 1, 2022
Pennsylvania Attorney Tom King says that the United States Postal Service refuses to provide the report from its investigation of the semi-trailer full of ballots that went missing before the 2020 Election in the state.
In addition, the PA Supreme Court has yet to rule on election cases involving Dominion machines used in Fulton County Pennsylvania.
Joe Hoft from the TGP interviewed attorney Tom King from Pennsylvania. Tom is from a family rich in history with the GOP and is now assisting Fulton County in a couple of court cases related to the 2020 Election. Tom shared some breaking information on the status of the USPS truck driver and whistleblower who reported to authorities that he dropped off a trailer full of ballots in Pennsylvania before the 2020 Election.
Truck driver Jesse Morgan was the truck driver who moved mail for the US Postal Service and who came out after the election and shared his story of how he hauled tens of thousands of ballots from New York to Pennsylvania before the 2020 Election. We reported on this in December 2020.
Yesterday, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaffer discussed the Jesse Morgan story and the work he and others performed to vet the story after the 2020 Election. Shaffer said that after his team fully vetted Morgan, he decided to move forward with the story. He contacted his friends in law enforcement to get them on board with further investigating the matter. When former AG Bill Barr heard the news he called Tony, screamed at him, and told Tony to stop his investigation. Barr claimed it interfered with an FBI investigation.
Today attorney Tom King reported on the current status of this matter. King says that he was made aware of Jesse Morgan after the 2020 Election.I was involved in that case and we worked directly with the US Attorney Bill McSwain who is now a candidate for governor… We got the truck driver over to the FBI offices in DC and to date we have met nothing but resistance from the postal authorities to release the report done by the postal police and the FBI. We’re close to getting it but that’s still unresolved as I speak to you today…
… We provided Jesse with legal counsel for the interview with the FBI… We not only cooperated fully but I spoke on numerous occasions with Bill McSwain, the state’s attorney appointed by President Trump for the Eastern portion of Pennsylvania.
McSwain wrote President Trump a letter after the 2020 Election expressing his challenges in investigating the election fraud because of Bill Barr. This is where Jesse Morgan’s story played out according to King.
King continued:Here we sit in April of 2022 and we still don’t have the report. We’re persuing it and we’re going to get it eventually.
King confirmed that Jesse Morgan is still in Pennsylvania and is still cooperating with King. Jesse has reported that certain people haven’t even been interviewed yet by the FBI or USPS.
King then continued and reported on lawsuits involving Fulton County and the state of PA. One case where the county is suing the state is still with the Supreme Court. The PA Secretary of the Commonwealth decertified the two election machines after the county performed an audit after the 2020 Election. The state did this without looking at the machines. The machines were never touched by the auditors. Instead, the auditors did their work based on a copy of the machines provided by the county.
Tom mentioned the county has only two machines and one wasn’t even used in the election but the state decertified both the machines when it heard about the county’s audit. The state then asked the county to pay for new machines. When this occurred the county sued the state. This case is with the Supreme court and has yet to be settled.
In another case the Supreme Court in the state allowed Dominion to join the state in attempting to prevent a forensic audit of the two machines in Fulton County. The state sued Fulton County when the Senate arrived and asked to perform the audit on the machines held by the county. Dominion and the state do now want this audit to take place. The Supreme Court has yet to rule on this matte
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Election Watchdog Finds 137,500 Ballots Unlawfully Trafficked in Wisconsin
10 trillion unique cell phone 'pings' were used to reconstruct the movements of ballot box intermediaries in 2020 election
By Steven Kovac
March 29, 2022 Updated: March 30, 2022
At least 137,500 absentee ballots were cast through unlawful vote trafficking throughout several of Wisconsin’s largest cities in the 2020 election, according to research presented last week to the state Assembly’s Committee on Campaigns and Elections by the public interest organization True the Vote (TTV).
Ballot trafficking is an activity in which absentee ballots and votes are solicited, sometimes in exchange for money or other valuables. They are then collected through a process called “harvesting” and delivered to drop boxes by intermediaries (someone other than the voter), who are often paid a per-ballot fee by partisan actors.
“An organized crime against Americans” is how TTV cyber expert Gregg Phillips described to the committee what happened in Wisconsin and elsewhere during the 2020 election.
Supporters of President Donald Trump protest outside State Farm Arena as ballots continue to be counted inside in Atlanta, on Nov. 5, 2020. (Megan Varner/Getty Images)
Based on his 15-month study of election practices in Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Michigan, Phillips estimates that at least 4.8 million votes were trafficked nationally.
According to the True the Vote report, 242 intermediaries in metro Atlanta made 5,668 stops at drop boxes during elections in late 2020. In its report, TTV said it obtained 4 million minutes of drop box video surveillance tape that helped to document its Georgia findings.
“Many of the traffickers we spoke with do not recognize what they are doing as being a problem,” TTV spokesperson Catherine Engelbrecht said.
The study found that in Arizona, 202 intermediaries made 4,282 separate visits to ballot boxes in Maricopa County.
Several Arizonans have since been indicted for election law violations, with at least one conviction, according to Phillips.
Poll workers count ballots inside the Maricopa County Election Department in Phoenix, on Nov. 5, 2020. (Olivier Touron/AFP via Getty Images)
Phillips told the committee that, in the states studied, TTV purchased from commercial brokers 10 trillion unique cell phone identity signals called “pings.”
Human rights organization First Freedoms funded the time-consuming and costly project.
Using a technique called geospatial mobile device signal analysis, Phillips said researchers are able to reconstruct a four-dimensional “pattern of life” of cell phone holders.
“From these pings, it can be determined where you work, where you sleep, and even what floor you are on within inches,” he said.
The Wisconsin study focused primarily on the Milwaukee County area, with some partial initial data coming from Racine and Green Bay, where the study will soon be further expanded, Phillips said.
In those three areas, TTV’s cell phone ping research found that in the two weeks from Oct. 20 through Nov. 3, 2020, 138 individuals each visited the location of a nongovernmental organization at least five times and made a combined total of 3,588 trips to absentee ballot drop boxes.
“That’s an average of 26 trips per person to drop boxes in the Milwaukee area,” Phillips said.
“Is this evidence of fraud?” committee member Lisa Subeck, a Democrat, asked.
“Vote trafficking is being done through the process. It is illegal,” replied Engelbrecht, who stated that every vote cast illegally cancels the vote of a legitimate voter.
Wisconsin Statute 6.87 (4)(b)1 provides that an absentee ballot envelope, in which the cast absentee ballot is placed, must be “mailed by the elector, or delivered in person, to the municipal clerk issuing the ballot or ballots.” The Circuit Court in Waukesha County in Teigen v. Wisconsin Elections Commission, has agreed, holding that use of drop boxes for absentee voting violates Wisconsin law.
Drop boxes, if unattended by a municipal clerk or in an unauthorized location, are illegal under Wisconsin law. The law is currently being challenged in the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
In her testimony, Engelbrecht stressed that the TTV report was focused on the process and wasn’t attempting to prove the 137,551 votes were illegal votes.
State Rep. Dave Murphy, a Republican member of the committee, stated: “If you vote in an illegal way, it is an illegal vote. If the process is illegal, the vote is illegal.”
Earlier in March, the report of special counsel Michael Gabelman on voter fraud revealed that some personnel of nongovernmental organizations are suspected of coordinating the 2020 ballot harvesting operations in Wisconsin’s five largest heavily Democrat-run cities—Milwaukee, Kenosha, Green Bay, Madison, and Racine.
When asked by Rep. Donna Rozar, a Republican, to name the NGOs in the study that were repeatedly visited by intermediaries, Phillips declined.
A spokesperson for Micah Inc., a leading Milwaukee nonprofit philanthropic organization, told The Epoch Times that Micah does conduct “voter engagement efforts,” but declined to say more.
Phillips and Engelbrecht testified that enormous nonprofits, such as National Vote at Home, are promoting voting from home and favor doing away with in-person voting on Election Day entirely.
“Most countries around the world vote in person on election day, including Ukraine,” Phillips said.
Engelbrecht argued that some countries have perfected secure blockchain electronic voting and said she thinks U.S. technology is advanced enough to at least ensure accurate election data.
She said that some U.S. election jurisdictions view inaccurate voting rolls as a “feature rather than a bug.”
“Our rolls are abysmal. Bad records are the gateway to fraud,” Engelbrecht said.
“If you can’t verify identity, you can’t do anything else,” Phillips said.
Rep. Ron Tusler, a Republican, asked if TTV could identify the 138 alleged ballot harvesters (also known as “mules”).
“We know the names but are not disclosing them,” Phillips said. “Anyone can buy them commercially. However, law enforcement would need a warrant.”
In the other states studied, government-made video surveillance tapes of ballot drop boxes obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests were used as part of the process of estimating how many ballots were trafficked, along with personal interviews with intermediaries and other tipsters and cell phone ping data.
Engelbrecht told the committee that in Wisconsin, in September of 2020, her organization set up a hotline to receive tips from informants.
Unlike other states where video surveillance footage of the drop boxes was made available to TTV investigators, Engelbrecht said that only one of the 17 Wisconsin localities studied provided TTV with video.
Engelbrecht stated that in the summer of 2020, the Wisconsin Election Commission (WEC) announced it approved of video surveillance of the state’s drop boxes, as recommended by the federal Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA).
“WEC did not follow through,” she said.
Neither did WEC provide to localities written guidelines based on CISA’s recommendations for the locations where the drop boxes were to be placed, according to Engelbrecht.
She testified that across the country, the majority of the ballot drops surveilled typically happened between 8 p.m. and 5 a.m.
Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, in January 2020. (Masooma Haq/The Epoch Times)
She told the committee that the removal of 234,000 problem names from Wisconsin’s registered voter rolls, as recommended by the Electronic Registration Information Center, was stopped by a lawsuit.
Forty-nine-year veteran elections attorney James Bopp Jr. came before the committee to provide a legal perspective to the facts presented in the TTV report.
Bopp has litigated 200 election lawsuits and is currently legal counsel to TTV. He is also representing special counsel Gabelman in several lawsuits against him stemming from his investigation.
Bopp testified that filing an avalanche of lawsuits was part of a years-long effort by Democrats “to make the whole system more susceptible to fraud and abuse.”
He said 425 lawsuits were filed across America by Democratic Party operatives or front organizations in the runup to the 2020 election.
Bopp asserted the suits were designed to ensure ineligible people were maintained on voting rolls; to expand voting to every voter on the rolls, whether active or inactive; and “to tear down every other anti-fraud protection, such as prohibiting signature verification and striking down witness requirements for absentee voting.”
Turning to Wisconsin, Bopp pointed the committee to what he called “the corrupt and illegal activity and administration of election laws for partisan ends engaged in by your Wisconsin state government and municipalities designed to maximize the number of Democrat votes.”
Addressing the alleged embedding of partisan get-out-the-vote efforts within local governments in Wisconsin’s largest cities, Bopp said the practice evades federal and state campaign contribution limits of just a few thousand dollars, and gives real-time, hour-by-hour, cost-free access to voter rolls to partisan actors.
Bopp said the practice disguises its partisan nature, disguises the identity of out-of-state billionaire donors contributing millions, thereby violating the principle of transparency and exceeding contribution limits.
“Despite clear and unequivocal state law, drop boxes created the infrastructure to accomplish all of this,” he said. “Drop boxes left unstaffed and located anywhere clearly violated state statutes.”
He criticized what he said was the “grossly partisan, corruptly political, and blatantly illegal” actions of the people administering Wisconsin election laws.
Bopp asserted that the actions in Wisconsin gave significant partisan political advantage to Democrats, exactly the people the plan was designed to help.
“Ruthlessly exploited by large-scale organized and illegal ballot harvesting operations, involving not-for-profits and the people working with them, (the scheme) could very well have influenced the outcome of the 2020 election,” he said.
“What has been disclosed—and, in my view, proven—is that there were sufficient irregularities in the 2020 election that a court, at the time, could have reached the conclusion that the true result cannot be determined. But that time has passed.
“It’s not about overturning the 2020 election. It’s about the future. The situation is crying for reform.”
Rozar reminded the audience that numerous election reforms passed by the legislature have been vetoed by Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat.
Neither Evers nor state Attorney General Josh Kaul, also a Democrat, responded by press time to requests for comment.
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Originally posted by MAL View Post
Yes, it sounds terrifyingly familiar, but it is not from a single authoritarian leader. It is coming from a fascistic cabal of big business, the media and ruling class politicians in both parties. Putin has a state run media...the Democrat p[arty has a lap dog media. I don't think you have any understanding of how bad the censorship is getting and who is silencing decent. Trump didn't do anything to silence the media. I have personally had factual comments deleted from YouTube livestream chats...in real time. If you post something they don't like, it gets deleted within a couple of seconds. If you want to talk about silencing dissent, just look at how the media handled the Steele Dossier...the media knew it was fake...the FBI knew it was fake...everybody knew it was fake, and they ran with it for years...and now The FEC has fined Hillary and the DNC for perpetrating the hoax. And how about the Hunter Biden Laptop? The media knew it was real, but yet they censored it as Russian disinformation because it implicated Joe in a pay for play scheme...now they have finally admitted it is real. They are starting to slowly walk back all the Covid lies, quietly and with out any major headlines There is a difference between calling fake news "fake news" and calling the shots for the state run media.
It's a strange time when all conspiracy theories become conspiracy fact.
There's a country that has already done that--Russia.
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Originally posted by Fighting Scot View Post
So the solution to the the rise of global authoritarianism is to destroy the liberal media and replace it with patriotic right-wing TV and radio?
There's a country that has already done that--Russia.
We are not talking about a "liberal media", we are talking about potentially treasonous collusion with the media, big tech and the Democrat party. They tried to frame Trump for treason with a story that they knew from the start was bogus. The Russian that has been arrested worked for Hillary. They lied to you for years and you either don't care or still believe the lie even after they admitted that it was a lie. If Trump actually colluded with Russia it would be a big deal...a really big deal...Republicans wouldn't stand by and defend him. Republicans would have drawn up the articles of impeachment, but the fact of the matter is that every body knew from day one that the Democrats were playing politics with phony charges of treason. I honestly can't tell you who I trust more between Putin's state run media and CNN.
Can any one of you admit that you have been lied to approximately 50,000 times about Trump Russia collusion?
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Putin has crushed liberalism in Russia, but what has been the result? Pure insanity.
Using strongman tactics, Putin dismantled Russia's liberal media, quashed feminism, put fear into the hearts of property-damaging protesters, and permanently kneecapped his bleeding-heart political opposition. He has structured Russian society around strength, toughness, and national pride. Russia is a place where “strong” people control the “weak."
One would assume that the anti-liberal nation that Putin has constructed would be the model of sound mindedness, contentment, and prosperity. Instead, it has gone completely haywire. Putin slaughters Ukrainian civilians and kills children without an ounce of regret. The images we see on television are shocking and vile. Russia and Putin are grotesque.
So maybe bringing the liberals to their knees does not bring the peace of mind that one might expect. Just the opposite, in Russia’s case, it seems to breed craziness and senseless destruction.
We should take note of this. If MAGA drove out every last liberal from the United States, it wouldn’t bring about heaven on earth. More likely it would result in the destruction, hell, and warped-mindedness we see in Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
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Originally posted by Fighting Scot View PostPutin has crushed liberalism in Russia, but what has been the result? Pure insanity.
Using strongman tactics, Putin dismantled Russia's liberal media, quashed feminism, put fear into the hearts of property-damaging protesters, and permanently kneecapped his bleeding-heart political opposition. He has structured Russian society around strength, toughness, and national pride. Russia is a place where “strong” people control the “weak."
One would assume that the anti-liberal nation that Putin has constructed would be the model of sound mindedness, contentment, and prosperity. Instead, it has gone completely haywire. Putin slaughters Ukrainian civilians and kills children without an ounce of regret. The images we see on television are shocking and vile. Russia and Putin are grotesque.
So maybe bringing the liberals to their knees does not bring the peace of mind that one might expect. Just the opposite, in Russia’s case, it seems to breed craziness and senseless destruction.
We should take note of this. If MAGA drove out every last liberal from the United States, it wouldn’t bring about heaven on earth. More likely it would result in the destruction, hell, and warped-mindedness we see in Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
The over riding theme that I am getting from your post is that Trump is the same as Putin. Putin is a killer, Trump got Queasy about killing a few Iranians in in a retaliation strike for them shooting down our drone. Trump had peace breaking out in the Middle East. The Abraham accords had Israel signing treaties with most of its neighbors. MAGA is economic based policy...it has nothing to do with driving out every last liberal. I want every last liberal to be heard, because America doesn't like what they have to say.
Trump didn't treat Putin like a killer, he treated him like an adversarial competitor.
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Originally posted by MAL View Post
We can agree that Putin is an evil killer, he always has been since his days in the KGB. I don't watch the same media that you do, so I haven't heard the talking points that are forming your opinions...but when you consider all the lies the media has told you about Putin and Russia, how do you know that they are telling you the truth now? I think your opinions are formed in part by media lies.
The over riding theme that I am getting from your post is that Trump is the same as Putin. Putin is a killer, Trump got Queasy about killing a few Iranians in in a retaliation strike for them shooting down our drone. Trump had peace breaking out in the Middle East. The Abraham accords had Israel signing treaties with most of its neighbors. MAGA is economic based policy...it has nothing to do with driving out every last liberal. I want every last liberal to be heard, because America doesn't like what they have to say.
Trump didn't treat Putin like a killer, he treated him like an adversarial competitor.Always support your local wrestling tournament concession stands!!!
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Democracy and authoritarianism are at war in Ukraine.
So the time has come, at long last, for the Republican Party to part ways with anyone who admires strongmen, authoritarianism, Putin, Russia, demagogues, and the poisonous “strong” people versus “weak” people mindset. If Republicans truly are the strong people they claim to be, they will finally clean house.
Donald Trump called Putin “so smart” and “savvy” and “genius” for invading Ukraine. Putin is shelling civilians. Children have died. He is demolishing a democratic nation. Trump is grossly wrong for praising a brutal dictator and an enemy of democracy, and no backtracking will remedy this. If Republicans truly are the strong people they claim to be, they will reject Trump, no matter the political cost. Republicans can win elections without Trump.
Republican televangelist Pat Robertson said that Putin was compelled by God to invade Ukraine. Putin is slaughtering civilians. Children have died. He is demolishing a democratic nation. If Republicans are truly the strong people they claim to be, they will turn away from Robertson.
Thousands of MAGA supporters have bought T-shirts proclaiming “I’d rather be a Russian than a Democrat.” The shirts are on sale right now on the internet ($22 on one website and $17.35 on another.) Russian authoritarians are shelling civilians and demolishing a democratic nation. If Republicans are truly the strong people they claim to be, they will set these fans of dictatorship straight. Republicans can win elections without bringing Russian authoritarianism to our country.
Delaware GOP candidate Lauren Witzke said that she identifies more with Putin’s Christian values than Joe Biden’s. But Putin is the one who is slaughtering civilians, bombing hospitals, and killing children. Putin is the one attacking democracy. What kind of Christian values are those? How can a Christian Republican woman have been so misguided in her support?
Republican Congressman Madison Cawthorn recently called Ukrainian President Zelensky a thug and said that Ukraine was “incredibly evil.” Doesn’t Cawthorn realize that Putin is the one who is bombing civilians and killing children? It’s almost as if Cawthorn is reading directly from Putin’s script. The GOP’s response to Cawthorn’s comments has been predictably meek.
Conservative pastor Franklin Graham called on his followers to pray for President Putin (not President Biden). If Republicans are truly the strong people they claim to be, they will party ways with Graham.
Republican Steve Bannon recently celebrated Putin for crushing gay pride and feminism in Russia. Putin’s rockets are killing children and demolishing a democratic nation. If Republicans are the strong people they claim to be, they will reject Bannon and his pro-Putin beliefs.
Marjorie Taylor Greene attended a white supremacist rally where the crowd chanted Putin’s name. We know that Putin is bombarding civilians. Children have died. He is demolishing a democratic nation. Strong Republicans should reject Marjorie Taylor Greene and those who cheer Putin. Republicans can win elections without Marjorie Taylor Greene and Putin fans.
QAnon has recently spread theories that Putin’s brutal invasion will somehow confirm their crazy beliefs that Democrats kidnap kids and eat babies. The one who is actually killing children is Putin. If Republicans are really the strong people they claim to be, they will at long last reject the followers of QAnon. Republicans can win elections without Q-anon and their screwball beliefs.
Tucker Carlson went on FOX and argued that American liberals were more dangerous than Putin. Clips of his comments appeared at least four times on Russian state television because they were so pro-Putin. In 2019, Carlson said, “Who’s rooting for Putin? I am.” Carlson said Putin wasn’t a threat, but his rockets are killing children and demolishing a democratic nation. Carlson has backtracked, but it’s too late. Strong Republicans should reject Tucker Carlson, no matter how hard that might be.
The January 6 attack on the Capitol Building was something that Putin enjoyed. Phil Waldron’s PowerPoint to overturn the 2020 election was music to Putin’s ears. The endless Republican social media chatter about the “stolen” election totally plays into Putin’s hand. His confidence has grown as America’s far right has looked the other way on attacks on American’s institutions.
Why has there been so much Putin love? Some Republicans deeply admire Putin and his strongman tactics. They are envious of his power, wealth, and control. He suppresses liberalism in Russia, which gives him credibility in the eyes of America’s right-wingers. It’s no accident that Carlson, Bannon, and the others express so much Putin love. They’d like to see Putin’s strongman mindset take hold in our country, starting with Putin-style control over the ballot box.
Now Putin is engaged in all-out war with democracy and the West. His barbarism, slaughter, and malignancy is evident to all. Shame on any American who expressed admiration for his strength and bought into Putin’s cancerous notions of “strong people” versus “weak people.” That’s the language of dictators.
If Republicans truly are the strong people they claim to be, they will pick the right side in this fight. There is no room for Putin apologists or admirers of strongman tactics in the Republican Party or the United States in general.
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Originally posted by oldpioneer View Post
MAL, this is very well written and thoughtful!!! It is refreshing compared to just reposting stuff.....You said that you listen to different media than everyone.........what is it? like publication? Alex Jones?
If you would have at least skim read this thread you would know who I am following. There is no issue more important than election integrity right now. It is more likely than not that Putin would not be in Ukraine if the 2020 election had not been stolen.
I am following the people in the trenches of election fraud... Audit the vote PA, Garland Favorito in Georgia, Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, Dr, Shiva, Bobby Piton, Dr. Frank, Seth Keshel, Cleta Mitchell, PILF...and many more. I watch the organizations that report on what these people are doing. Alex Jones is a nut that thinks 911 was an inside job. On Top of that I am cleaning the voter rolls...finding dead people, people registered at more than one address...etc Did you know that in Illinois there was a Democrat judge that made a ruling stating that Republicans were not allowed to clean the voter rolls?...and every year he would reinstate his ruling...well...he died, and nobody reinstated his ruling...now we are getting rid of the dead people and the illegal aliens and the people that don't live in Illinois any more.
Fighting Scot, that sounds like a strong mans name. Weak people invite conflict. Nobody walks up to the biggest guy in the room and takes a swing at him. That's an aspect of human nature that can't be changed with any amount of soy in your diet. Bin Laden said that he saw America as a paper Tiger after Black Hawk down in Somalia...he thought we were weak. Putin has invaded Ukraine twice. I would argue that it was because he saw weakness from America. I have said this before and I will say it again, if we dropped all of our defenses, Canada would invade the US..that's just how human nature works. Weakness is a vacuum that gets filled by strength. What is most important in this scenario is that the strength is backed by morality...that's what we are missing...America is loosing it's sense of goodness. When we have government corruption all the way down to the dog catcher we will not be able to lead in the world like we have all of our lives.
I am not very interested in Russia/Ukraine...I haven't followed it close enough to know who if anybody is reporting the truth. I will give you a few of the talking points that I have heard. These are not necessarily my beliefs or opinions, but some is fact.
The Us has been funding bio labs in Ukraine near the Russian border. This was confirmed before it was denied when Rubio was questioning somebody, I don't remember who.
When NATO was formed Russia was promised that it would not expand any farther East...well it has, and now it is considering expanding right up next to its border. Some have made the point that this is the equivalent of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
I have also heard it said that the pro Russian Ukrainians have been under attack for years in Ukraine and overwhelming want to secede from Ukraine.
And then there are the stories that Putin is fighting the Nazi's in Ukraine.
I come down strongly on the side of Ukraine, but concede that Putin has a point about bio labs and Nato Expansion.
For people like me that don't like Trump on a personal level...we have learned that we have to ignore the stupid things that he says and pay attention to the things he does. No President that I can remember has kept more promises than he has. I have no interest in a Republican winning. I want conservatives...the real fight is in the primary.
QAnon is just some Democrat toying with vulnerable Republicans.
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Excuse me but I have some pasting to do. This way if I write a book all my research is in one place.
Questions Linger About Pennsylvania’s 2020 Election Results and GOP Response
By Beth Brelje
March 19, 2022
The certified 2020 election results in Pennsylvania show Joe Biden won with 80,555 more votes than Donald Trump. Then-Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar certified the vote on Nov. 24, 2020. Six days later, on Nov. 30, 2020, the state still had had 784,752 more ballots than voters. That is nearly ten times more than Biden’s margin of victory.
That is according to Verity Vote, an election Integrity volunteer research group that compared data from the Pennsylvania Department of State and data direct from all 67 counties.
Starting on Nov. 30, 2020, Verity Vote requested from the Department of State the weekly Full Voter Export from the Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors (SURE).
In this first batch of (Nov. 30) data, they found 6,962,621 total ballots cast and 6,177,869 total voters in the Full Voter Export. The difference: 784,752.
Days later, Boockvar put out a statement to explain the discrepancy, saying all counties had not yet uploaded all their voter history data to the SURE system.
By Feb. 1, 2021, with all county data uploaded, there were 7,035,746 total ballots and 6,914,556 voters. The deficit had shrunk to 121,240 more ballots than voters.
But that is the opposite of what is expected in election results. It is expected that faulty ballots will be kicked out, Heather Honey of Verity Vote told The Epoch Times, and that normally leaves more voters than ballots, not the other way around.
There are legitimate reasons for the number of ballots and the number of voters not to match. For example, a voter may vote for too many candidates in one race. In that case, none of the votes in that race count, but other races on the ballot, if properly marked, would count, Honey said. Or a voter may make a mistake and ask for a new ballot.
Pennsylvania law specifically says when the ballots exceed the total number of persons who voted, “such excess shall be deemed a discrepancy and palpable error, and shall be investigated by the return board, and no votes shall be recorded from such district until such investigation shall be had.”
Put simply, these discrepancies can’t be counted until they are investigated.
But they weren’t investigated before the election was certified. The Pennsylvania Department of State did not respond to questions for this story.
It is worth noting that governments don’t keep records forever. They have retention schedules that guide when to destroy documents to make room for new ones.
In Pennsylvania, as of September 2022, counties can legally destroy the paper ballots and documentation related to the 2020 election, ending any chance of explaining election irregularities that have troubled so many voters, and spurred many to rally at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
Grassroots Research
Soon after the 2020 election, three Pennsylvania moms, Toni Shuppe, Karen Taylor, and Jamie Sheffield, launched an online petition calling for a full forensic audit of Pennsylvania’s election results. In four months, the petition had over 100,000 signers. That was the beginning of their organization, Audit the Vote PA. But because of the looming retention schedule, they doubt their questions will be answered.
Last week they launched a new petition, calling for the results of the 2020 election to be decertified.
“We can’t ignore it because the laws were broken certifying the election, which now shows that the anomalies, irregularities, and potential fraud, far outweighs the margin of victory,” Audit the Vote PA CEO Toni Shuppe told The Epoch Times. “How do we move forward knowing that our votes are going to count, without investigating, analyzing and decertifying something that we know was not legitimate?”
Audit the Vote PA has spent months going door to door, interviewing voters. In this process, and by pouring over data provided by counties and the Pennsylvania Department of State, they found a number of discrepancies.
When door-knocking, they asked how many people at that address voted in the 2020 election, and compared it to the records obtained at the county level. Often they found more people registered and voted from the address than the number who lived there.
“We are able to show the person at the door: this is what’s on record at the county as people being registered at your address. Can you confirm if this is accurate? And almost every single time, the owner says it’s not accurate,” Shuppe said. “The owner will say, ‘That’s me, that’s my wife, that’s my daughter. I don’t know who the rest of these people are.’ Or, ‘those people were the previous owners but we’ve lived here 10 years.’ Or, ‘that was a previous tenant but I’ve been here since 2018.’ There’s almost always a discrepancy.”
Shuppe says their canvassing efforts have proven that something is amiss.
“We have a really good idea of how they meddled in the 2020 election. We can’t quite pinpoint exactly who did it or what their methodology was, or exactly how they pulled it off, but we know that our voter rolls are severely inflated.”
The group also looked at voter registration and broke down statistics by number. Each county’s discrepancies are listed on the Audit the Vote PA website.
For example, in Pike County, between 2016 and 2020, there was a 6.1 percent increase in Democrat voter registrations, but Biden got 40 percent more votes than Democrat Hillary Clinton.
In Tioga County, there was a 15.6 percent decrease in registered Democrat voters, yet in this county, Biden got 27 percent more than Clinton.
Another Kind of Meddling
State Sen. Doug Mastriano, a Republican now running for governor, signed both petitions from Audit the Vote PA and was an early supporter of looking into the election. It drew national attention and raised his profile.
“The day before Thanksgiving in 2020, I hosted the Senate Majority Policy Committee hearing in Gettysburg where hours of testimony were presented. Even after the hearing, which commanded the nation’s attention, the left and members of the media refused to acknowledge there is widespread election fraud in Pennsylvania,” Mastriano told The Epoch Times. “We are living in the storied tale of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes.’ What is so plain and obvious, that even a child can see it, is being denied wholesale.”
That hearing featured former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and was televised nationally.
“Instead of looking into the allegations, the legacy media maligns those asking questions,” Mastriano said. “The political ruling class not only refused to conduct an audit, but took the added step to sabotage my endeavor to conduct a forensic investigation last summer. The people of Pennsylvania deserve answers and confidence that their vote counts.”
Republican State Sen. Jake Corman is president of the Senate and also running for governor. He has not signed the Audit the Vote PA petitions.
In August 2021, Corman used his authority as Senate president to remove Mastriano from the audit, and temporarily removed Mastriano’s Capitol office staff.
Corman named Republican Sen. Cris Dush to lead the election investigation and the Senate Intergovernmental Operations Committee.
“We’re auditing the vote right now. Gov. Tom Wolf and Attorney General Josh Shapiro tried to stop me, but I beat them in court. On Election night 2020, I called for the resignation of Gov. Wolf’s Secretary of State, who was in charge of a clearly flawed election process,” Corman told The Epoch Times through an emailed quote provided by his campaign. “Gov. Wolf openly ignored state law by giving illegal, last-second directions to county voting offices on mail-in ballots. That’s why I’m pushing forward right now with the state Legislature’s constitutional responsibility to audit the 2020 election.”
The committee has a website with a detailed “Election Action Timeline” timeline starting before the election—August of 2020 to the present. It mentions Corman 13 times and has links to his materials. The timeline mentions Mastriano, not at all.
It is unclear whether the committee plans to order counties and the state to preserve the 2020 election records until the investigation concludes.
“The Senate Intergovernmental Operations Committee’s election integrity review is still active and ongoing. We are continuing to review information relevant to the investigation, but it is too early to tell at this time whether the retention schedule will come into play,” Corman spokesman Jason Thompson told The Epoch Times in an email. “Election reforms remain a top priority for Senator Corman, and he plans to introduce comprehensive election reforms to promote election integrity soon.”
Shuppe says that as president of the Senate, Corman was empowered to do something immediately after the election, and that Audit the Vote PA has never been able to talk with him.
“When the senator we were working with, who was championing the cause, was removed from his position and the entire plan was changed, there was no correspondence or explanation about that, or anything that showed [Corman] was trying to pick up the ball and really do the right thing and partner with the grassroots,” Shuppe said of Corman. “We emailed him, we called him, we sent him certified letters. We had his constituents, who are our volunteers, knock on his door at his local offices. I went to Harrisburg personally and tried to connect with him and knocked on his office door. He has literally never responded to anything we’ve ever done. Nothing.”
“I personally believe that Trump won Pennsylvania,” Shuppe said. “But since they won’t give us a real forensic audit, we’re not going to be able to prove that. What we can prove though, is that the anomalies, irregularities, and the voter rolls being inflated—all of those things point to the fact that the anomalies far, far outweigh the margin of victory, therefore the winner is inconclusive in Pennsylvania. I still think Pennsylvania should be decertified. Figuring out who legitimately won is like unscrambling an egg. You just, you can’t do it without getting your hands on the ballots, machines, outer envelopes, which they’re not going to do. We’re just never going to get that answer. We need to safeguard 2022 and 2024 to make sure this can’t happen again.”
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