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  • Originally posted by oldpioneer View Post
    2000 mules is the new rallying cry for the maga crowd kind of like remember the Alamo! I’m just finishing watching Superman and wondering how he went back in time By flying around the world real fast
    It's not that new, I have been telling you about 2000 Mules for about 3 months.

    Superman Is not real...He is just an actor playing the part of a superhero in a movie...he can't actually time travel. On the other hand 2000 mules is real...real drop box footage...real cell phone ping data. True the Vote actually solved a cold case murder with the cell phone data. I ordered a DVD...we could have a watch party if you were not so afraid of seeing the truth.

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    • Originally posted by HuffHall View Post
      Oh and the non response you speak of is because it's a big nothing-burger. But this one article completely eviscerating it was particularly on point and hilarious

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...ampaign=recent
      If you could keep up, you would have seen that I already debunked every thing in your "debunking" article with this article a couple of days ago.

      Geofencing can be set to about an 18 inch radius. What that means is that they can set up a geofence around a ballot drop box that is too small to catch the cell phone ping if your phone is in your back pocket while you are stuffing ballots. In most cases they set the geofence at about a 5 feet radius. The mule must get out of the car and approach the the drop box and their phone must be inside the geofence to be counted. Driving by will not be captured. Also the mule must have approached a minimum of 10 drop boxes and 5 NGOs to be counted as a mule. Delivery drivers were not counted...election workers were not counted...they have data from before, during and after the election...they developed a pattern of life for the mules before during and after the election. The pattern of life changed dramatically after the election...no more drop box visits for the mules after the election.

      Watch the movie.


      2000 Mules, a 90-minute documentary produced by Dinesh D’Souza, is the visual tip of the ballot trafficking iceberg based on the digital evidence collected by True the Vote (TTV) and OPSEC. Utilizing geospatial technology to ping cellphones using data from apps, Catherine Engelbrecht, founder of TTV, coordinated with Gregg Phillips’ OPSEC team of cyber analysts to establish a “pattern of life.” They then corroborated those anonymous cellphone data trails with publicly available dropbox surveillance videos. Phillips has been doing highly specialized work on elections globally for forty years but the technology used in this project has only been around for the past few years.



      The AP published a “hit piece” on May 3, attempting to expose TTV’s “flawed analysis of cellphone location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage” presented in 2000 Mules. We will examine those claims, weaving in information from the movie and conversations with Engelbrecht over the weekend.

      Notably, the AP story states neither D’Souza nor Engelbrecht responded to “a request for comment.” At least in Engelbrecht’s case, she was given little to no time to respond. She “received the request for comment at 11 p.m., and this story was published the next day.”


      Is Geospatial Data with Cellphones Precise?


      “Cellphone data is like digital DNA,” Engelbrecht explained. A court case on the precision of this technology makes that claim difficult to dispute. In response to the 2016 Supreme Court case, Carpenter v. United States, Justice Roberts wrote a 2018 opinion in which he describes the level of precision tracing afforded by pinging a cellphone using geofencing technology. “Accordingly, when the Government tracks the location of a cell phone,” writes Roberts, “It achieves near perfect surveillance as if it had attached an ankle monitor to the phone’s user.” Two of the most striking paragraphs from his 2018 opinion are captured below:

      Much of the premise of the AP story is built around proof that cellphone data is not as precise as Justice Roberts describes in his opinion. Notably, Engelbrecht mentions in the movie that their data in Georgia was used by law enforcement as a test case to help law enforcement solve a cold murder case of a young girl.
      Methodology of the TTV/OPSEC Investigation


      Ballot trafficking is defined as the paid collection and casting or delivery of a ballot by an unauthorized third party. In the 2020 election, multiple ballots were cast to dropboxes by many “mules” in numerous states and jurisdictions. It is illegal in all states to be paid for casting a ballot. Individuals or mules were paid $10 or more per ballot—according to witness interviews—to “pick up ballots from stash houses run by NGOs to run them to dropboxes.” Engelbrecht states in the documentary, “So you have the collectors, on the one hand, you have the stash houses, which are the nonprofits, and then you have the mules that are doing the drops.”

      The criteria used to qualify as a ballot trafficker were purposely conceived by TTV to rule out false positives. In other words, TTV/OPSEC sought to avoid capturing individuals in their geo tracing that were merely passing by or who did not approach the dropbox. The mules also had to satisfy particular standards to be qualified as bonafide mules.

      According to Engelbrecht, they set out to allow the “data to tell the tale.” Phillips explains in the movie, “We put together a plan to see where the data would take us. Our final decision was that the traffickers had to have been to a dropbox space and five or more visits to one of the one or more of these organizations.” Engelbrecht adds, “Those were the outliers. It was such an aberrant pattern.” Phillips introjects, “The fact of the matter is, these techniques are used every single day by law enforcement, intelligence community, [and] the Department of Defense.”

      As such, their approach was conservative, meant to catch the worst offenders, according to Phillips:

      “We want to absolutely ensure that we don’t have false positives, meaning including people that should not have been included. We’re not in any way saying that this is all there is. We’re just saying that based on our criteria that we identified, in Atlanta, 242 people who went to an average of 24 drop boxes in eight organizations during a two-week period.”

      The team targeted swing states where the election was decided, Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. They collected data from October 1 through the election in all of the states, and in Georgia, the data was collected between October 1 and the January 6 runoff. In the Atlanta metro area, they targeted 309 dropboxes, some in suburban areas. They virtually fenced off (geofenced) the dropboxes to limit their collection of cellphone pings to those who entered the space and approached the dropbox. They also geofenced and pinged phones that approached or entered the identified “organizations (NGOs) across the country.” They bought 10 trillion signals, more than a petabyte of data, during the course of the investigation.



      When I asked Engelbrecht about the claims in the AP story that innocent people may have been caught up in their data, she said their methodology addressed those pitfalls:

      “Of course, there are ways to eliminate passers-by and county workers, of course, there are ways to confirm that the people in the videos are (or are not) mules. Larry Campbell, dropping off 6 ballots for his big family, wouldn’t be in our study. Going once to a dropbox wasn’t in our study. Our mules averaged 38 dropbox visits and 8 NGO visits. Any other combination (ex. going to NGOs and USPS boxes, for example, wouldn’t have been in our study. Or going to 100 dropboxes, but no NGOs. They weren’t in our study.) That’s how we know this is the tip of the iceberg.”

      In the pattern of life below, the blue tracks are the pattern of travel by the individual in the course of one day. The orange dots are the dropboxes, and the house icons are the NGOs.

      A Day In The Life Of a Mule/2000 Mules/Georgia
      Phillips and Engelbrecht explain using the graphic above. Engelbrecht describes the things they looked for:

      “Higher dropbox visits and the elements that are additive. Here the going to the nonprofits, the ability to identify the pattern of approach to a dropbox and that it is going not past a dropbox and on but directly to a dropbox and back to another point and then to another dropbox.”

      Phillips:

      What you see here on the screen is a single person on a single day in Atlanta, GA. They went to 28 drop boxes and five organizations in one day. The individual, to get to some of these dropboxes, you had to be intentional— to get off the highway, to get to the dropbox, you had to go on surface streets, you have to turn in somewhere in order to get to those drop boxes. The circles represent where the ballots originate, the stash houses where the ballots are collected and handed to the mules.”

      Concerning AP’s recounting of Pennsylvania Sen. Sharif Street’s claims that he was “confident he was counted as several of the 1,155 anonymous “mules’, even though he didn’t deposit anything into a dropbox at that time period,” Engelbrecht’s response was as follows:

      “We have been very precise in what we’ve said. The writer makes claims and then debunks those claims with what we’ve actually said (in our testimony). If the Senator was going back and forth between NGOs and dropboxes, and if he did more than 10 times, then it is possible he would be in our study. Removing him still leaves 1100+ mules. Oh, and, very important, driving by dropbox isn’t a thing. You have to get out of your car and walk up to it. That’s what we looked at in the study.”
      Riots and Traffickers: Data Doesn’t Lie


      Additionally, OPSEC collected evidence suggesting some of the mules also participated in the violent Antifa riots earlier in the year. As D’Souza introjected, the likelihood of left-leaning participation in both is a much more likely hypothesis. Phillips states:

      “There were several different violent BLM Antifa riots in Atlanta, and in one of them, we had three dozen of our mules participate in these violent riots. There’s an organization that tracks the device IDs. Across all violent protests around the world, we took a look at our 242 mules in Atlanta, and sure enough, dozens and dozens and dozens of our mules show up on the ACLED databases.”

      The AP story attempts to convince readers the theory of there being an intersection between mules and BLM rioters falls flat unless you believe the data collected by the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) is bogus. You would also have to believe the same geofencing technology used by the CIA, the FBI, or the Department of Defense is also flawed and imprecise. If that isn’t enough to convince, just read the 2019 NYTimes story on cellphone geolocation tracking. Moreover, the data combined with a robust law enforcement investigation with witness interviews would help to further substantiate TTV’s findings.




      Raffensperger Does Not Have TTV Video


      The AP story contends Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger’s office investigated one of the surveillance videos circulated by True the Vote saying it found the man was dropping off ballots for himself and his family. Engelbrecht told UncoverDC while TTV has offered the video surveillance copies to the SOS, Raffensperger does not have TTV footage:

      “They only have geospatial data. The GBI already has access to all the video because it’s a state video. We went through everything and offered to provide video, but until the subpoenas, they’ve never indicated what or how they wanted to receive info, and we didn’t want to do anything incorrectly. That’s how I am certain the comment about the Raffensperger having our video is inaccurate.”

      UncoverDC reached out to Raffensperger’s office on Thursday about the video footage claim but has received no response as of this publication.

      TTV has 4 million minutes of surveillance video from around the country from open records requests. According to Phillips, some of the video surveillance was turned off in Arizona. In Wisconsin—despite rules requiring video surveillance—surveillance of dropboxes was not done there. Importantly, in the places where TTV has video, they have the geolocation data that correlates with the video surveillance footage, further corroborating the evidence.

      Gloves and Photos at Dropboxes

      One of the AP claims is that wearing gloves to avoid fingerprints is “pure speculation.” The ballot trafficking case in Arizona did, in fact, involve fingerprint evidence from the ballots. The evidence is most likely under seal. Nevertheless, whether the hypothesis about the connection between the case and the sudden wearing of gloves elsewhere is true or not, it is still unlikely that a universe of innocent people would be wearing surgical gloves or taking photos at dropboxes when delivering multiple ballots at 3 in the morning. It just isn’t normal behavior.
      Signature Verification Standards and Voter Rolls


      The AP maintains all is well with absentee ballots concerning signature verification. Voter rolls in the U.S. are notoriously poorly maintained and updated. Engelbrecht and Phillips discuss poorly maintained voter rolls at length in their testimony in front of Wisconsin legislators. It is very tough to conduct clean elections when your voter rolls are populated with dead voters and out-of-state votes. Multiple states experienced issues with IDs and signature verification. For example, there were known issues in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia with signature verification. According to Engelbrecht, “Inaccurate voter rolls are the gateway. In GA, 75k+ (in Nov) and 46k+ (in Jan) votes came from ineligible records, primarily voters who were no longer living in [the] state, but still found a way to cast a ballot.” The claim that absentee and mail-in ballots are “verified by the signature and tracked closely” and “safeguards against anyone who tries to illegally cast extra ballots” is provably absurd.
      AP Claims No Massive Ballot Collection Scheme


      During the documentary, Engelbrecht describes an operation that delivers the ballots in the method of a thousand small cuts. She explained the operation seems to have been designed to have many mules delivering small numbers of ballots to avoid surges in ballot drops. Only in one case does the chain of custody documents indicate a significant surge at a dropbox, and that was in Gwinnett County, where 1,962 ballots were cast with “comparatively few cell phone devices were proximate to the dropbox during the period of time” notated. In this way, massive numbers of ballots were allegedly delivered, evading detection over time.

      The numbers are stunning when the minimum criteria of 10 drop boxes, with 5 visits and a handful of ballots delivered per visit, are considered. By that calculus, it is a potential 380,000 illegal votes. When those criteria are lowered to fewer dropboxes and visits, another 810,000 illegal votes. In Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, the mules allegedly cast more than enough illegal votes to overcome the margin of defeat for Trump.

      Either way, TTV did not set out to litigate or change the election results. The investigation was data-driven and conservatively designed to capture evidence that sought to eliminate bias and satisfy a stringent scientific inquiry standard.

      D’Souza asks toward the end of the documentary whether Engelbrecht and Phillips believe their data proves crimes occurred. He also asks whether the 2020 election results may have changed as a result of the ballot trafficking scheme. Phillips responds:

      “With the lower bar of five dropbox visits and just three illegal ballots per drop, we find election fraud on an astonishing scale in Wisconsin, 83,565 illegal votes were trafficked in Wisconsin, in Georgia 92,670. In Pennsylvania, 209,505. In Michigan, 226,590, and Arizona, 207,435. Using this calculus, Trump would have won all the key States and the final electoral vote 305 to 233.”

      “And so these are the kind of things, 4,000,000 minutes of this, this was an organized effort to subvert a free and fair election,” continued Phillips. “This is organized crime. You can’t look at this data in its aggregate and believe anything otherwise. That’s especially true when you consider that in places like Georgia, it was only decided by 10,012 thousand votes. And you look at 5,000 visits just from our mules. It’s not a leap to say ‘yes, this would have changed the results.'”

      2000 Mules made its virtual debut on Saturday, May 7, with 80,000 people tuned in, according to D’Souza.

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      • You debunked nothing, the "movie" is a farce, directed by felon who pled guilty in open court to violating federal campaign laws.

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        • Ya know MAL, you sure remind me of the pillow guy. in fact, you might be him...... but I really feel for both of yas. Once Biden won I knew you both wouldn't take the "L" well. nobody like losing. In fact, I can tell you off the top of my head exactly how many lights are on any gymnasium in the Chicagoland area. I've been to the basement......the halls of sorrow. But man o man it must suck not being able to turn the page for the wrestle backs, or the next day, let alone going on 2 years.......constant dwelling, obsessing, things aren't great right now but be thankful you live in the greatest country in the world. if not, Russia is nice and cool this time of the year. Be a Patriot!!! God Bless free and fair elections, a peaceful transfer of power, and a mixed economy where capitalism thrives but we bail out banks and corporations if they go through rough times.....Are you Baked Alaska?
          Always support your local wrestling tournament concession stands!!!

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          • Yuma county Sherriff's Office Arizona has put out this report following the release of 2000 Mules.

            Yuma County Voting Fraud

            Location of Incident: Yuma County, AZ

            The Yuma County Sheriff’s Office (YCSO) and the Yuma County Recorder’s Office (YCRO) are working together to actively examine cases of voting fraud from the 2020 General Election and now a recent pattern of fraudulent voter registration forms leading up to the 2022 Primary Election.

            As of March 2022, YCSO has 16 voting/registration open cases. All relevant evidence is being formally documented by the Yuma County Recorder’s Office and further investigated by the Yuma County Sheriff’s Office.

            Some examples of voter fraud Yuma County is currently seeing are the following

            : • Impersonation fraud: Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died or moved away.

            • False registrations: Falsifying voter registrations by either using a real or fake name, birth date, or address. This is being done by outreach groups who are paid for each registration form they submit, therefore, are out soliciting voters into unnecessarily re-registering or falsifying forms with Yuma County resident’s identities

            . • Duplicate voting: Submitting multiple votes or registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state

            . • Fraudulent use of absentee ballots: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

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            • Originally posted by oldpioneer View Post
              Ya know MAL, you sure remind me of the pillow guy. in fact, you might be him...... but I really feel for both of yas. Once Biden won I knew you both wouldn't take the "L" well. nobody like losing. In fact, I can tell you off the top of my head exactly how many lights are on any gymnasium in the Chicagoland area. I've been to the basement......the halls of sorrow. But man o man it must suck not being able to turn the page for the wrestle backs, or the next day, let alone going on 2 years.......constant dwelling, obsessing, things aren't great right now but be thankful you live in the greatest country in the world. if not, Russia is nice and cool this time of the year. Be a Patriot!!! God Bless free and fair elections, a peaceful transfer of power, and a mixed economy where capitalism thrives but we bail out banks and corporations if they go through rough times.....Are you Baked Alaska?
              This thread wouldn't exist if Biden won the election.

              If the referee had used his left hand to hold your shoulder on the mat while he slapped the mat with his right hand, you and your coach would still be complaining to this day.

              I think you are misreading this situation. We have been given a gift from god when the Democrats stole the election. We would have no idea how bad the corruption really is...but now we know...all the snakes have came out from under their rocks.

              Republicans dominated the 2020 election on all levels of government...state, federal and local... the Republicans had a red wave election in 2020...Democrats just took 4 Senate seats and POTUS, they lost everywhere else....and Republicans already had an advantage to begin with. The 2022 mid terms could be much more than just a political blood bath. Gas prices, Inflation, border crisis, CRT, crime, mask and vaccine mandates, woke agenda, federal spending, The Great Reset, global warming...America has had enough of the Democrat party.

              By the tone of your post, I believe that you are not convinced that Biden actually won.

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              • Biden won. Trump couldn't even accept the fact that Clinton won the popular vote. Do you think there is ANY possible scenario where Trump would concede anything to anyone? The man could not even utter the word "negative" about himself when speaking about his Covid test. I thought I knew a few narcissists in my day but he is #1! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNiqWjDAm8M
                Always support your local wrestling tournament concession stands!!!

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                • The mule round up has begun.


                  Yuma County Investigates 16 Voter/Election Fraud Cases

                  By
                  Wendi Strauch Mahoney
                  -
                  May 13, 2022


                  The Yuma County Sheriff says it will investigate 16 election fraud cases involving voting and registration fraud in the 2020 General Election. The Yuma County Sheriff’s Office (YCSO) and the Yuma County Recorder’s Office (YCRO) are now working together to “actively examine cases of voting fraud from the 2020 General Election and now a recent pattern of fraudulent voter registration forms leading up to the 2022 Primary Election,” according to the May 11 Press Release.



                  The press release lists several examples of the types of fraud being investigated, including impersonation fraud, false registrations, duplicate voting, and fraudulent use of absentee ballots.

                  Some examples of voter fraud Yuma County is currently seeing are the following

                  : • Impersonation fraud: Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died or moved away.

                  • False registrations: Falsifying voter registrations by either using a real or fake name, birth date, or address. This is being done by outreach groups who are paid for each registration form they submit, therefore, are out soliciting voters into unnecessarily re-registering or falsifying forms with Yuma County resident’s identities

                  . • Duplicate voting: Submitting multiple votes or registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state

                  . • Fraudulent use of absentee ballots: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

                  Dinesh D’Souza says the individual featured in his recent movie 2000 Mules is from Yuma County. 2000 Mules is based on the ballot trafficking investigation launched by True the Vote (TTV) and OPSEC. About an hour into the movie, a woman whose identity is concealed alleges that ballot trafficking has been going on for a long time in San Luis in Yuma County. She worked as a receptionist and was “instructed” to receive ballots from various people. She estimates she deposited “hundreds of ballots” in a dropbox that didn’t have a camera during the period leading up to the 2020 election. She told Gregg Phillips of OPSEC that the people in the county “know who is gonna win the next election before it even happens.”

                  Another Yuma County voter fraud case not mentioned in the movie but discussed in UncoverDC’s May 9 story debunking a May 3 AP “hit piece” on the film and TTV reveals the indictments of Alma Yadira Juarez and Guillermina Fuentes. They were charged with one count each of “ballot abuse,” a Class 6 Felony, in December of 2020. Fuentes serves on the Gadsden Elementary school board, was mayor of San Luis, Arizona, from 2003-to 2004 and 2006, and is a Democratic precinct committee person in Precinct 31. The two women were caught harvesting ballots during the August 2020 primary in Yuma County.

                  The illegal ballot activity came to light because of two Yuma County citizens, Gary Snyder and David Lara. The two men have been investigating criminal enterprises associated with elections for many years. They point out that ballot abuse is not just a Democrat issue but is seen on both sides of the aisle.

                  Synder is currently a Republican candidate for the Arizona Senate. Lara is a local business owner and school board member. They have appeared on multiple podcasts, and news shows to discuss their 20-year citizen-led mission to take down the “illegal ballot harvesting mafia and non-profit ballot laundering in Yuma County.” In this case, the pair monitored two dropboxes, taking video from the car of the two women depositing ballots. During their June 21, 2021, interview on OAN with Dan Ball, Lara told the host that all his efforts finally paid off:

                  “It’s taken me 20 years to get down to this point, and thank God for Gary’s help. We were able to crack down on it. What happens is ballot harvesting has become very common in the low-income and minority communities. Unfortunately, the community organizers, the people that claim to help out these communities, are the ones they’re taking advantage of. What happens is you have people in low-income communities that usually go to nonprofits that will help you with housing, health, or help fill out some type of documentation. These people now trust those community nonprofits, so they also help register people when they register them. And then received their first ballot. Then they trust these people, and they will go to these nonprofits and get their help to fill out those ballots.”

                  Lara and Snyder told the full story on The Serge with Host Sergio Arellano on June 9, 2021.



                  A local kyma.com story on the case featured Snyder explaining why ballot abuse is so prevalent in the county. He says the “local community is not educated on what exactly ballot abuse is. You as a voter should only sign it and turn it in yourself [and] a lot of them don’t know that. They’ve been persuaded by certain elected officials or certain nonprofits that, to them, it’s somebody’s system they trust them. They say knock on the door. Can I get your ballot, and they give it to them,” said Snyder.

                  Some Arizonans feel that this case may represent a “deprivation of the right to vote.” However, according to kyma.com, Yuma County Recorder Robyn Stallworth Poquette reassured the public that no such deprivation of the right to vote occurred.

                  Their evidence was compelling enough to be sent to Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich’s office. Lara said it was the first of its kind nationwide because the video evidence was so compelling. It is apparently the first use of the ballot abuse law because County Recorders have been afraid to use the law to indict. Brnovich announced additional charges against Fuentes from the Grand Jury indictment in an Oct. 5, 2021, press release.

                  On Dec. 23, Brnovich announced the final Grand Jury decision to indict for one count each of ballot abuse.



                  A post on Brnovich’s website states, [I]“n 2016, Arizona passed HB 2023 to restrict ballot harvesting in Arizona unless the person collecting the ballot is a family member, a person living in the same household, or a caregiver. Since the 1970s, Arizona has required people to vote at their specific precinct.” The Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) recently upheld the law.

                  UncoverDC’s extensive coverage of TTV’s ballot trafficking investigation has been compiled here. UncoverDC will continue to write stories as the information becomes available.

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                  • Originally posted by oldpioneer View Post
                    Biden won. Trump couldn't even accept the fact that Clinton won the popular vote. Do you think there is ANY possible scenario where Trump would concede anything to anyone? The man could not even utter the word "negative" about himself when speaking about his Covid test. I thought I knew a few narcissists in my day but he is #1!
                    You sound like you are trying to convince yourself that Biden won.

                    Can you prove that Hillary won the popular vote? You should now see the problem...I can't prove that Hillary didn't win the popular vote and you can't prove that she did...we can't prove our position because they wont let us see the ballots. The ballots are required by state and federal law to be saved for 22 months...some state laws are 24 months. They are saved as a matter of public record, but when we ask to see the public record they spend hundreds of millions of dollars on lawyers fighting our right to see the public records. Why save the ballots if nobody is allowed to see them? Those with nothing to hide hide nothing. A simple signature match would throw this country into a constitutional crisis....there are not enough matching signatures to declare a winner There are more ballots missing chain of custody documentation than the margin of victory. With out chain of custody there is no way to authenticate the ballot. We saw the duplicated ballots in Georgia...ballots marked identical in every way...you saw the video of Ruby duplicating them. In Wisconsin we saw the nursing home fraud...that alone was greater than the margin of victory in Wisconsin. We saw the video of a truck load of ballots being dropped off at 4 in the morning in Michigan. We saw 5000 people that voted twice in Arizona. We saw a video of Delaware County Pennsylvania officials destroying election tapes and admitting that it was a felony...on camera...and then we saw 2000 mules. Biden took this election by less than one half of one percent in four states. All you have to prove that Biden won is your faith...we have a mountain of evidence that goes mostly unchallenged because it is hard to challenge it.

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                    • I wonder how the 2020 election will be taught in red state schools. Will kids learn the MAGA version, that the election was stolen, or the actual version, that Joe Biden won? Will hotlines be established to rat out teachers who instruct students that Biden was the winner? Will both sides have to be taught? Will history books be removed for not having the MAGA version? What will happen to instructors who refer to January 6 as an insurrection or an attempted coup? What happens if a lesson about January 6 hurts a MAGA kid's feelings or makes them feel ashamed?

                      Let's see what kinds of laws grow out of this situation because it is definitely going to come up. Legislatures are going to step in, which sounds like the opposite of conservatism.

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                      • Originally posted by Fighting Scot View Post
                        I wonder how the 2020 election will be taught in red state schools. Will kids learn the MAGA version, that the election was stolen, or the actual version, that Joe Biden won? Will hotlines be established to rat out teachers who instruct students that Biden was the winner? Will both sides have to be taught? Will history books be removed for not having the MAGA version? What will happen to instructors who refer to January 6 as an insurrection or an attempted coup? What happens if a lesson about January 6 hurts a MAGA kid's feelings or makes them feel ashamed?

                        Let's see what kinds of laws grow out of this situation because it is definitely going to come up. Legislatures are going to step in, which sounds like the opposite of conservatism.
                        Your post is filled with projection...change the narrative...change the subject matter and it is what is happening in schools now...1619 project, critical race theory, sex-ed in kindergarten, transgender grooming...This isn't a red state blue state driven issue. The curriculum is more often than not set by a centralized agency like the Department of Education or the NEA in both red and blue states. America works best when all voices are heard. Centralized federal control over the schools can only lead to bad things. Conservatives believe in free speech, freedom of the press, and the rest of the bill of rights. I get the feeling that Democrats only want to hear what they believe...only want what they believe to be taught in schools...ban everything else...cancel those who won't conform...and for gods sake if they believe Trump won 2020 censor the hell out of them.

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                        • Mules are dropping like flies.



                          Election Fraud Scheme Uncovered In Virginia, County Supervisor Indicted on 82 Counts


                          Original article. ‘Safe & Secure’ RIGHT!
                          BY GREGORY HOYT, MAY 12, 2022



                          BUCHANAN COUNTY, VA – A Democrat Virginia Board of Supervisors member was reportedly charged with 82 felony counts relating to election voter fraud, along with one alleged accomplice being charged with 12 felonies of a similar nature.

                          On May 9th, Russell County Commonwealth’s Attorney Zach Stoots announced that Knox District Supervisor Trey Adkins and his alleged accomplice Sherry Lynn Bailey were collectively hit with 94 various felonies revolving around alleged election and voter fraud.

                          Adkins was reportedly charged with 34 counts of false statement election fraud, 11 counts of absentee voting procedure violations, eight counts of public embezzlement, 11 counts of forgery of a public record, 15 counts of uttering public record, and 3 counts of conspiracy to make a false statement election fraud.

                          Bailey, who is apparently Adkins’ aunt, was charged in connection with the same scheme as well, with her being indicted on four counts of false statement election fraud, four counts of conspiracy to make a false statement, and four counts of forgery of public record.

                          Commonwealth Attorney Stoots didn’t reveal any specifics regarding the case in a released statement, noting that ethics codes forbid his office from going into case specifics prior to a potential trial.

                          “The Rules of Professional Conduct prevents any lawyer participating in the prosecution of a criminal matter that may be tried to a jury from making an extrajudicial statement that the lawyer knows or should know will have a likelihood of interfering with the fairness of a trial by jury. Based on the Rules of Professional Conduct, my office will not be making any further statements on the pending matters.”

                          Virginia State Police have been investigating Adkins for approximately two years prior to the charges getting handed down, with the National File reporting that the grand jury’s report detailed “an illegal absentee vote harvesting scheme” that Adkins had been partaking in since first coming into office in 2011 and “repeating the process in his 2015 and 2019 bids for re-election.”

                          In this scheme, Adkins would allegedly show up at the homes of prospective voters with absentee applications and ballots in tow to help ensure that he secured their vote.

                          Allegedly hundreds of absentee ballots acquired in this fashion were used in each respective election cycle – and while the numbers may seem small in the grand scheme of things, the National File report pointed out that since “Buchanan County is a small community, the margin of victory in Adkins’ election was only within a couple of hundred votes, giving his scheme all the more impact.”

                          In response to the felony allegations, Adkins claimed that the charges are “a show.” He also said, “It’s something that we’ll deal with.” Furthermore, the Democrat asserted that he won’t be resigning from office as a result of the criminal charges, saying, “There’s no chance in hell that I’ll step off the board of supervisors. Period. Let me be clear about that.”

                          Adkins proclaimed that he’ll be releasing a more detailed statement on the matter once he confers with his legal counsel.

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                          • Thanks to the "free speech" MAGA party, states this year have introduced 137 bills which limit what schools can teach with regards to race, American history, politics, etc. For example, a proposed South Carolina law would prohibit teachers from discussing any topic that creates discomfort or anguish from students. Virginia created a hotline where parents can rat out teachers who bring up divisive subjects and/or inherently divisive concepts. A right-wing mother's group from New Hampshire offered a $500 bounty for anyone who tattled on teachers who review "divisive concepts" in the classroom. Over the last nine months, 1,586 individual books have been banned from school libraries or prohibited from classroom, mostly based on objections from MAGA followers.

                            These bans, hotlines, educational gag orders, and snoop networks are brought to us by MAGA, and yet they claim to be the party of free speech.

                            MAGA warriors believe that the country belongs to them and them alone. They are wolves in "free speech" clothing and they are on the road to creating a paranoid, surveillance-first America where snooping on your neighbors is encouraged.

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                            • Catherine Engelbrecht testified before Wisconsin Legislature earlier this year. At that time she said that Wisconsin's (WEC) told her that there was no drop box video at all in the entire state, but now they have the video from Green Bay...somebody was lying...hiding the footage. I hope we have enough space in the county jails for all 54 ,000 Mules. True The Vote is still holding back the big news while they give law enforcement time to do their job. 2000 Mules is just the tip of the iceberg.

                              True the Vote Announces They Now Have Footage of the 2020 Green Bay Drop Boxes – Are Working with Law Enforcement in Wisconsin (VIDEO)

                              By Jim Hoft
                              Published May 16, 2022

                              True the Vote’s Catherine Engelbrecht and fraud investigator Gregg Phillips sat down with The Epoch Times this weekend for an update on the ballot trafficking investigations.

                              Catherine Engelbrecht announced that her organization now have video footage of the ballot boxes from Green Bay, Wisconsin.


                              Catherine and Gregg claim that Obama-affiliated NGOs spent billions to steal the 2020 elections.

                              Catherine also said True the Vote is working with at least two local law enforcement agencies in the state.
                              Catherine Engelbrecht: On balance, we are going to look back at this and a lot of what happened was the result of Americans in their spirit knowing something is going so wrong. Where do we start looking? And there wasn’t clarity and passionate people were trying to figure this out… Where we find ourselves now is Americans are awake and they’re increasingly awake. Hopefully what we are putting together they are going to be able to see and feel and have that belief that will encourage them. Their guts are right. This is happening. It’s happening at a national scale…

                              …We just got Green Bay video. Or Brown County Wisconsin a week ago. So, it’s coming…


                              Gregg Phillips listed four points that will make a difference in cleaning up US elections.
                              Gregg Phillips: I think there’s going to be some very sophisticated technologies that are going to be employed from teams like ours and others that are going to come around and really make a big difference… Those four pillars.
                              ** If they clean up the voter rolls. Do a meaningful job cleaning up the voter rolls.

                              ** If they’ll stop all this mail-in balloting.

                              ** If they’ll get rid of the drop boxes.

                              ** And make these serious crimes. Make people pay for this stuff

                              Those four things will go a long way for cleaning up the problems that we’re seeing.

                              And then Catherine Engelbrecht announced True the Vote was working with
                              Catherine Engelbrecht: Wisconsin… They’re making great strides and investigations are ongoing. We arae now working with two local law enforcement agencies so we’re excited about that.

                              Michigan, we’re just starting to scratch the surface of Michigan.

                              This is good news for Wisconsin patriots who are concerned about free elections in the state.

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                              • mal stop with the "patriots" nonsense, you're party (MAGA) loves throwing that word around, news flash you're not a patriot, your swollen orange idol is far from one, it's offensive to the actual patriots of this country

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