Excess death data for 2021 is starting to trickle in.

[miketamillow]

He actually just passed away he was at Silver Cross Hospital

Everyone I know has been getting sick lately. This is not independent of the vaccines mind you. They almost certainly have made things way worse. Geert Van Bossche (an virologist and epidemiologist) warned about this as soon as they started "mass" vaccination. Note the key word is "mass".

Almost certainly your friend died an unnecessary death.

[MAL]

yeah, even though democrats won the popular vote the last few times, we should do a way with that method and just focus on crowd size. "people for miles and miles, as far as they eyes can see, nobody has ever seen anything like this." Mussolini and Hitler knew how to put together rallies I will tell you that..

Have you seen my other thread...Release the Kraken? Democrats have not been winning the popular vote...they have been stealing it with inflated voter rolls, monitoring who has voted and casting ballots for those who didn't vote.

[oldpioneer]

yeah, even though democrats won the popular vote the last few times, we should do a way with that method and just focus on crowd size. "people for miles and miles, as far as they eyes can see, nobody has ever seen anything like this." Mussolini and Hitler knew how to put together rallies I will tell you that..

[MAL]

Hey MAL, I just got back from Florence, Arizona from the trump rally. where did you sit? we could have met up. Huge crowd. Nobody has ever seen anything like it. I was surprised that he said us white folk have to go back in the line for vaccinations. when I went, I wore my Maga hat which is probably why they just served first come, first served. I have to admit, he needs some new songs. I mean the first time I saw the Stones I was happy to hear satisfaction, and jumping jack flash. but now, I need to hear some deeper cuts from Exile on Mainstreet or Metamorphis. what did you think of the show?

I didn't go to see Trump, I went to see Biden speak. I was in the front row...nobody else was there, but I did get to meet the entire Whitehouse Press Corps. I thought Obama did a good job of reducing the size Democrat party, but Biden is driving the last nail in the coffin. Lets Go Brandon!

[oldpioneer]

Hey MAL, I just got back from Florence, Arizona from the trump rally. where did you sit? we could have met up. Huge crowd. Nobody has ever seen anything like it. I was surprised that he said us white folk have to go back in the line for vaccinations. when I went, I wore my Maga hat which is probably why they just served first come, first served. I have to admit, he needs some new songs. I mean the first time I saw the Stones I was happy to hear satisfaction, and jumping jack flash. but now, I need to hear some deeper cuts from Exile on Mainstreet or Metamorphis. what did you think of the show?

[oldpioneer]

but then I learned a few thingsWhuhan is over 3 times bigger than Chicago and i saw a picture of the wet market. I pictured them as kind of a farmers market but that place is bigger than the mall of america.

[oldpioneer]

Thanks MAL, he was a good guy. union electrician, had wife , kid, sad.

I will say this, when I don't know the answer to something I bet with the odds. Now I have no idea where it came from. But China is a massive country both area and population wise. When I heard the city it came from happens to be where the lab is..........my bet immediately went to that lab.

[MAL]

He actually just passed away he was at Silver Cross Hospital

The news of your friends passing leaves a hollow feeling in my heart.

How did we get here? Half of the country doesn't believe anything the other half says. I believe with a 99% certainty the this virus came from a lab in Wuhan. We know with 100% certainty that we funded that lab and still are funding it to this day. I am probably about 60% convinced that it was a biological attack. The leaked emails don't indicate that Fauci was involved in the attack if it was an attack, but he was very involved with the lab.

What do you believe about the origins of the virus?

[oldpioneer]

He actually just passed away he was at Silver Cross Hospital

[MAL]

It’s a good thing you are staying in the house on the Internet. I have a good friend from high school who is been on a ventilator for four weeks.

Did you know that Hospitals get paid paid more for COVID patients?...and then they get paid more if they put them on a ventilator...and then they get paid more if they die.

I hope your friend recovers soon. Ivermectin has been known to be an effective treatment for over a year now, according to Hidden government documents just released by Project Veritas.

[oldpioneer]

It’s a good thing you are staying in the house on the Internet. I have a good friend from high school who is been on a ventilator for four weeks.

[MAL]

More working age people are dying from non COVID related issues. That is very tragic...that means we need to look at those causes of death...are they lock down related suicides? Drug overdoses from people with self medicating to deal with the stress. Many say that the Vaccine is the main cause of new deaths, but now we know that COVID is only a small part of the excess deaths among working age people.

I clicked on the CDC link. I have not had time to dive into the data, but the thing that jumped off the page and said look at me, was the number of deaths with Influenza and Pneumonia as a contributing factor in people that were counted as dying from COVID. Of the 830,365 people listed as dying from COVID, the number one contributing factor was....drum roll please....pause added for affect...((((INFLUENZA and PNEUMONIA)))). 407,091 people from all age groups that died "from COVID" also had ((((INFLUENZA and PNEUMONIA)))) listed on their death certificate. every age group with one small exception had ((((INFLUENZA and PNEUMONIA)))) as the top contributing factor to COVID deaths. The lone exception was in the 0-24 age group where ((((INFLUENZA and PNEUMONIA)))) was listed on the death certificate 1,070 times and "All other conditions and causes (residual)" was listed at 1,338 times. I guess that's where they put the suicides, drug overdoses, and accidental deaths. And for the record the mysterious category of "All other conditions and causes (residual)" is the second or close third contributing factor in COVID deaths in every single age group except 0-24...as listed on the death certificates. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...m#ExcessDeaths

When Are you guys going to wake up? I am always right. A small group of billionaires are leading you around by the nose.


EXCLUSIVE: Nationwide Surge In Deaths Among People Aged 18-49: A State by State Overview


Highest state sees 65 percent increase in prime-age mortality, only 36 percent attributed to COVID-19
BY PETR SVAB

January 12, 2022 Updated: January 13, 2022

Deaths among people aged 18 to 49 increased more than 40 percent in the 12 months ending October 2021 compared to the same period in 2018–2019, before the COVID-19 pandemic, according to an analysis of death certificate data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) by The Epoch Times.

The agency doesn’t yet have full 2021 numbers, as death certificate data trickles in with a lag of one to eight weeks or more.

The increase was notable across the country and in no state was COVID reported in more than 60 percent of the excess deaths. Some states experienced much steeper hikes than others.

Nevada was the worst with a 65 percent prime-age mortality surge of which only 36 percent was attributed to COVID. Texas was second with a 61 percent jump of which 58 percent was attributed to COVID. Arizona and Tennessee recorded 57 percent increases with 37 percent and 33 percent attributed to COVID respectively. Not far behind was California at 55 percent and 42 percent attributed to COVID as well as New Mexico (52 percent, 33 percent), Florida (51 percent, 48 percent), and Louisiana (51 percent, 32 percent).







On the other side of the spectrum was New Hampshire with no mortality increase and no COVID deaths in this age group and Delaware with a 10 percent mortality increase, zero attributed to COVID. Massachusetts had only a 13 percent spike with 24 percent of it attributed to COVID and Maryland had a 16 percent jump, 42 percent attributed to COVID. Close behind were Connecticut, Hawaii, and New Jersey with 17 percent increases (23 percent, 45 percent, 58 percent attributed to COVID respectively).

CDC data on the exact causes of those excess deaths aren’t yet available for 2021, aside from those involving COVID, pneumonia, and influenza. There were close to 6,000 excess pneumonia deaths that didn’t involve COVID-19 in the 18–49 age group in the 12 months ending October 2021. Influenza was only involved in 50 deaths in this age group, down from 550 in the same period pre-pandemic. The flu death count didn’t exclude those that also involved COVID or pneumonia, the CDC noted.

It’s not clear why the mortality spike seemed to exhibit a geographical trend. Overall, a part of the surge could be likely blamed on drug overdoses, which increased to more than 101,000 in the 12 months ending June 2021 from about 72,000 in 2019, the CDC estimated. About two-thirds of those deaths involved synthetic opioids including fentanyl that are often smuggled to the United States from China through Mexico.

For those ages 50 to 84, mortality went up more than 27 percent, representing more than 470,000 excess deaths. Almost four out of five of the deaths had COVID marked on the death certificate as the cause or a contributing factor.

For those 85 or older, mortality increased about 12 percent with more than 100,000 excess deaths. With more than 130,000 COVID-related deaths in this group, the data indicates that these seniors were less likely to die of a non-COVID-related cause from November 2020 to October 2021 than during the same period of 2018–2019.


Comparing 2020 to 2019, mortality increased some 24 percent for those 18–49, with less than a third of those excess deaths involving COVID. For those 50–84, it increased less than 20 percent, with over 70 percent of that involving COVID. For those even older, mortality jumped about 16 percent, with nearly 90 percent of that involving COVID.

For those under 18, mortality decreased about 0.4 percent in 2020 compared to 2019. In the 12 months ending October 2021, it fell some 3.3 percent compared to the same period in 2018–2019.