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**redskinpride** · 09-14-2006, 03:29 PM

Poeta over Schlatter?? We'll see.

**Conquistadors** · 09-14-2006, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by redskinpride View Post

Poeta over Schlatter?? We'll see.

It's a ranking, not a prediction.

Which way would you rank them (and based on what?)? And how do you predict they'll do?

I would have to rank CP over Poeta, based on their NCAA and Big Ten resumes. Now will I predict who would win such a match (they may wrestle three or more times this year)? I'm not sure. Both of these guys are capable of beating everyone at this weight. If they do wrestle three or more times this year, I'll be so bold

as to predict that both of them will win at least once.

Oh, jmt, thanks for posting the rankings three times

.

**redskinpride** · 09-14-2006, 04:27 PM

I understand they are rankings. But Schlatter is the defending Big Ten champ. And I know I am treading on thin ice talking about U of I wrestling, and I am a fan, but Minnesota is by far a better program. Johnson has been there for 13 years and not even brought home a trophy (top 4 finish).
Who knows. If I were to bet my money would be on Schlatter.
It will be a great match/matches.
I know I am dating myself again, but it will be battles like Jaworsky and Kolat in the Early nineties. Which are great for wrestling.

**jmt0519** · 09-14-2006, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Conquistadors View Post

It's a ranking, not a prediction.

Which way would you rank them (and based on what?)? And how do you predict they'll do?

I would have to rank CP over Poeta, based on their NCAA and Big Ten resumes. Now will I predict who would win such a match (they may wrestle three or more times this year)? I'm not sure. Both of these guys are capable of beating everyone at this weight. If they do wrestle three or more times this year, I'll be so bold

as to predict that both of them will win at least once.

Oh, jmt, thanks for posting the rankings three times

.

Whoops. No problem... i just didn't want you to miss anything. haha

**jmt0519** · 09-14-2006, 06:00 PM

The Big 10 is stacked at 157. It'll be interesting to see how everything is going to work itself out.

**Grappler177** · 09-14-2006, 08:34 PM

Even More Interesting

Kish over Herbert? Didn't Herbert win the head to head this summer?

**Chi-town Fan** · 09-16-2006, 02:42 PM

Herbert beat Kish in freestyle

They met in the finals of the University Nationals. Not sure the score. I think Kish will win Big Tens and Herbert will beat him in the NCAA finals.

**Conquistadors** · 09-16-2006, 05:27 PM

With all due respect to Roger Kish and his very, very fine performances at the Big Tens and NCAA last spring, but I don't think that he is at the same level at Jake Herbert. Aside from his loss to Askren, Herbert was dominant last year. Kish on the other hand, lost to a number of guys during the year. Herbert has been a very big 174 pounder for the last two years, but now with the graduation of Delguyd, Herbert (and Tamillow) can both move up a weight. Although Herbert will be facing slightly larger and stronger guys at 184 than he did at 174, I think that Herbert will be even more physical than he was at 174-- and that's saying a lot. Don't get me wrong, Kish is a very fine wrestlers, but I don't think that he'll be able to stay with Herbert physically (and Herbert is a very fine wrestler, too). If Kish can keep it close with Herbert, then that is saying a lot.

Anyway, I see Josh Glenn as having a better chance of knocking off Herbert. I wouldn't let Glenn's 4th place finish lure one into thinking that he isn't national champ material.

Speaking of Josh Glenn...What amazed (and frustrated) me last season, was watching Pete Friedl "toy" with Glenn-- Pete beat Glenn something like 13-4 or 13-2 (this was the 3rd/4th place match at NCAAs). Seemed as though Pete finally "let it all hang out," which he did a lot his first two years. Had Pete wrestled like that against Kish, he would have, IMHO, been the Big Ten Champ and a NCAA finalist last season, where I am confident he would have fared very well against the ultimate champ, Shane Webster. Ah Pete, "ya coulduh bin a contenduh."

Anyone know what 3x AA Pete Friedl is doing now?

**BARR** · 09-17-2006, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Chi-town Fan View Post

They met in the finals of the University Nationals. Not sure the score. I think Kish will win Big Tens and Herbert will beat him in the NCAA finals.

Herbert beat him 4-0, 5-1 at University Nationals. Jake's career record in college to this point is 83-4. He lost 3 times as a Freshman. He lost 2x to Friedl (he also beat Friedl 2x) and he lost 1x at the NCAA tournament his Freshman year. After his loss at the NCAA's his Freshman year he went on to record 3 falls, a 15-0 win, a 6-2 win, and a 6-3 win, in the wrestle backs, on his way to taking 3rd place. Then his only loss last season was to Askren in the NCAA finals. He beat Mark Perry 3x last season and none of them were very close. As good as Kish is IMO Herbert is the favorite to win the Big 10 and NCAA titles at 184 this year.

I think that C.P. deserves to be ranked over Poeta at this point for the reasons Conquistadors pointed out. But I will go out on a limb and say that Poeta will beat C.P. every time they wrestle and place higher than him at both the Big 10's and NCAA's. Just my opinion.

**lauden swain** · 09-19-2006, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Conquistadors View Post

Anyone know what 3x AA Pete Friedl is doing now?

He is still in Champaign

Lauden

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