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    It was my first time attending the state meet this year cheering on the GBN team and I couldn't believe how everyone hates them.

    1) I heard today that the Glenbard North bus was broken in to. They had IPods and headphones stolen, their clothes pissed on, and ketchup and mustard put all over the bus. I hope they catch the kids responsible for this and prosecute them to the full extent. Rumor has it that they have video of it.

    2) At DVC two parents were ejected from the tournament for yelling nasty things to one of the GBN wrestlers..what? Parents yelling at kids.

    3) After the 152 finals match the kids to the right of the GBN crowd were swearing and yelling at them for cheering on their teammate. I like the fact that the Stevenson kids and Bartlett kids were supporting their wrestlers that have worked so hard.

    4) Refs...two matches one at 132 and 152 the kids that they were wrestling were both hit with stalling calls in the first period and never changed their style of wrestling and were never hit with stalling again. Do the refs hate them too? The call in Murpheys finals match was 100% WRONG! Look at the video of the match and freeze the film. When the ref awards the two pts, look where the kids are. No way its two. The match could have ended up with the same result if it went to overtime, but my money is on Murphey since he scored first and almost cradled Schnieder.

    By the way.... what was with Schnieder shooting Murphey with his hands during the introductions

    Murphey has had a tough road.

    State losses....

    Cooper with a record 29-3
    Smith 43-0
    Schnieder 38-0

    Here's hoping he gets it next year.

    Good Luck GBN next week at team state, I'll be watching online. After this weekend and feeling the hate towards them I can only imagine what it's like at team state.

  • #2
    We must be watching two different matches. Murphey kept running out of bounds Schnieder had to drag him back like a sack of potatoes. Murphey should of been called for stalling

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Old Time Wrestler View Post
      We must be watching two different matches. Murphey kept running out of bounds Schnieder had to drag him back like a sack of potatoes. Murphey should of been called for stalling
      I agree. Murphy on his butt and Schneider had two feet in bounds and had Murphy wrapped up. Where I come from, that's twwwwwwwoooooooo!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by crazyrunner1215 View Post
        I agree. Murphy on his butt and Schneider had two feet in bounds and had Murphy wrapped up. Where I come from, that's twwwwwwwoooooooo!
        I hate to agree with you (LOL), but I don't think there's any doubt that was 2 and I am a GBN fan!

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        • #5
          Murphy himself was quoted in the local paper as saying it was two.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Luvwrestling View Post
            Murphy himself was quoted in the local paper as saying it was two.
            I was just going to edit my post and say this. I think the "hatred" is more of the uninformed GBN fans coming on here and starting crap that is obviously just meant to start crap!

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            • #7
              A couple of things. I did not start rooting against GBN until I went to a dual meet at Sandburg with them. I was not a fan of either...just a fan of wrestling. The coach started yelling at the Sanburg fans...since then, I usually root against GBN. But I have to admit, what a great program. I also think Murphy showed a LOT of class by not complaining and admitting that Schneider deserved the two points in a post match interview. All in all, a great tourney in my opinion.

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              • #8
                Hello Crosby, I feel horrible if any crimes were committed to GBN property, or any property for that matter.

                I think rivalries are healthy, but the oppositions should be respected.

                I also think that in any sport, isolated incidents can cause people to unfairly lump a whole group of people together. I think that's sad.

                In your post, it sounds to me that you feel that all individuals in the state (and world) hate GBN. That is an incorrect and unfair statement. I don't hate GBN. I was happy they won the title last year. I understand some of your frustrations, but I do not agree with you that everyone hates GBN.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by crosby27 View Post
                  It was my first time attending the state meet this year cheering on the GBN team and I couldn't believe how everyone hates them.

                  1) I heard today that the Glenbard North bus was broken in to. They had IPods and headphones stolen, their clothes pissed on, and ketchup and mustard put all over the bus. I hope they catch the kids responsible for this and prosecute them to the full extent. Rumor has it that they have video of it.

                  2) At DVC two parents were ejected from the tournament for yelling nasty things to one of the GBN wrestlers..what? Parents yelling at kids.

                  3) After the 152 finals match the kids to the right of the GBN crowd were swearing and yelling at them for cheering on their teammate. I like the fact that the Stevenson kids and Bartlett kids were supporting their wrestlers that have worked so hard.

                  4) Refs...two matches one at 132 and 152 the kids that they were wrestling were both hit with stalling calls in the first period and never changed their style of wrestling and were never hit with stalling again. Do the refs hate them too? The call in Murpheys finals match was 100% WRONG! Look at the video of the match and freeze the film. When the ref awards the two pts, look where the kids are. No way its two. The match could have ended up with the same result if it went to overtime, but my money is on Murphey since he scored first and almost cradled Schnieder.

                  By the way.... what was with Schnieder shooting Murphey with his hands during the introductions

                  Murphey has had a tough road.

                  State losses....

                  Cooper with a record 29-3
                  Smith 43-0
                  Schnieder 38-0

                  Here's hoping he gets it next year.

                  Good Luck GBN next week at team state, I'll be watching online. After this weekend and feeling the hate towards them I can only imagine what it's like at team state.
                  I feel your pain and several of the things you mention are quite unfortunate, especially the bus break-in, but there is no question that Max won that match and if you have a problem with the way one kid wrestled vs Murphy, when he went out and pretty much wrestled the same way vs Max, then that is hypocritical. Schneider hit a legit TD after twice dragging Murphy back in bounds. Don't get me wrong...I think Brian is a stud and given the years/weight classes he could easily be a two time champ vs a two-time runner-up.
                  As far as GBN as a team is concerned, get past the jealousy. Success always breeds envy and hatred. Montini put up with it for years (tho I have no sympathy for some of thier obnoxious fans), as did Carl Sandburg, and now OPRF. The Panthers have been a model of consistency and if you look at their track record...it speaks for itself. Last year might have been their 1st title, and they might add to it this year, but they have so many Elite 8 appearances and top 4 finishes it's impossible to count. There is a reason why coach Hahn is one of Illinois' best ever.
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                  • #10
                    Your first sentence tells me all I need to know. If that's your first time attending the state meet you obviously don't know wrestling or rules that well. It was a takedown all the way.

                    It is too bad the bus got broken in to.

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                    • #11
                      The hatred is cyclical based on who is the best team around. When i was in HS in the mid 90's, everyone outside of the Providence program hated them. Now, they are down and people are indifferent toward them. Success breeds jealousy and jelousy breeds hatred!!

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                      • #12
                        You'll see it the way you want to, but IMO there is no way it was two...WATCH the video, and listen to the whistle...my money would still be on murphey in OT. But at this point, it is was it is.....bottom line- both kids are great wrestlers, and we all got to see an exciting match.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crosby27 View Post
                          You'll see it the way you want to, but IMO there is no way it was two...WATCH the video, and listen to the whistle...my money would still be on murphey in OT. But at this point, it is was it is.....bottom line- both kids are great wrestlers, and we all got to see an exciting match.
                          You don't need to convince us it wasn't two, we know it was. You should get in touch with Murphy because he said it was two and he may have a better perspective than any of us IMHO!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by crosby27 View Post
                            You'll see it the way you want to, but IMO there is no way it was two...WATCH the video, and listen to the whistle...my money would still be on murphey in OT. But at this point, it is was it is.....bottom line- both kids are great wrestlers, and we all got to see an exciting match.
                            LOL...there is no way to "see it"...I watched it as it happened...it was a legit TD, period. You don't see me bringing up the semi final match vs Mahomes do you?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Luvwrestling View Post
                              Murphy himself was quoted in the local paper as saying it was two.
                              I was wondering about that because Murphy shook his head no after the takedown was awarded. I say it was a takedown.

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