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  • Larkin Schedule vs. Hinsdale Central Schedule

    Hinsdale Central's timeline is so much more efficient. I hope the folks running Larkin take notice and follow suit. Taking 14 hours to complete a 16 man tournament and ending at 11:00pm is beyond nuts.

    Larkin
    February 10, 2018 – Saturday
    7:00 AM Weigh-Ins(Upper North Gym) (scratch weight + 3 lbs.)
    7:30 AM Coaches’ Meeting / Breakfast
    8:55 AM National Anthem
    Session I (4 Mats)
    9:00 AM Wrestling Begins-Prelims
    11:00 AM* Championship – Quarterfinals
    1:00PM* Lunch Break
    2:00 PM* Wrestle Backs – Round I-4 Mats
    4:00 PM* Championship – Semi-Finals-2 Mats
    & Wrestle Backs – Round II-2 Mats
    6:00 PM* Session Ends/Dinner Break
    Session II (4 Mats)
    7:00 PM Wrestle Backs – Round III- 2 Mats
    8:45 PM* Wrestler Introduction
    9:00 PM* Championship Matches (1st/3rd)

    Hinsdale Central
    SESSION I
    7:30 AM – Weigh-Ins
    9:00 AM – Championship Prelims
    10:30 AM – Championship Quarterfinals
    12:00 PM – Consolation 1st Round
    1:30 PM – Lunch

    SESSION II
    2:00 PM – Championship Semi-Finals & Consolation 2nd Round (simultaneously)
    3:30 PM – Semi-Final Wrestlebacks (2 mats w/ 2 officials each mat – Required)
    5:00 PM – Break
    5:15 PM – 1st & 3rd Place Matches

  • #2
    It may be the one and only time we WANT the IHSA to meddle in a schools business. The idea that an athlete will expected to be at a competition from 6:30 am to potentially close to midnight is irresponsible. But then again put IHSA and U46 problem solvers together and this doesn’t really surprise me.

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    • #3
      Hinsdale Central
      SESSION I
      7:30 AM – Weigh-Ins
      9:00 AM – Championship Prelims
      10:30 AM – Championship Quarterfinals
      12:00 PM – Consolation 1st Round
      1:30 PM – Lunch


      But in same breath...I think Hinsdale is being awfully optimistic about these rounds only taking 90 mins each. If they do squeeze that consolation round in, you’re looking at potential a 3 o’clock lunch break when those rounds finish up closer to 2 hours.

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      • #4
        I agree with Hand Control. Except it's not 16 man brackets, it's 12 in each weight.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HandControl View Post
          Hinsdale Central's timeline is so much more efficient. I hope the folks running Larkin take notice and follow suit. Taking 14 hours to complete a 16 man tournament and ending at 11:00pm is beyond nuts.
          Brackets are set up as 16 man brackets but only are 12 man. This means even fewer matches need to occur throughout the day. Shaving time off of the breaks will definitely help HC end the day sooner. Hopefully, those, running 1 day will aim at a schedule similar to HC.
          "Hard work shows desire, sweat shows commitment!"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wrestling mom #12 View Post
            I agree with Hand Control. Except it's not 16 man brackets, it's 12 in each weight.
            Yes you are correct, 16 man bracket 12 wrestlers. But to your point only 12 wrestlers. 14 hours is insane!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fivepointmove View Post
              Hinsdale Central
              SESSION I
              7:30 AM – Weigh-Ins
              9:00 AM – Championship Prelims
              10:30 AM – Championship Quarterfinals
              12:00 PM – Consolation 1st Round
              1:30 PM – Lunch


              But in same breath...I think Hinsdale is being awfully optimistic about these rounds only taking 90 mins each. If they do squeeze that consolation round in, you’re looking at potential a 3 o’clock lunch break when those rounds finish up closer to 2 hours.
              Each of those early rounds, with 4 mats, is equivalent to only 14 bouts per mat. Even if every bout went 6 minutes, that's 84 minutes. And when you get to the quarters where your top seeds take the mats, there'll be a lot of falls. 90 minutes is generous.

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              • #8
                You know 6 min is match time not actual time it takes to complete the match. Out of bound, stalling and penalties, and other stoppages add on. Time in between matches on the mat. Signing bout cards and checking in also will come into play. 2 hours seems more realistic.

                Also blood and injury time.

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                • #9
                  But falls and techs make up for the long matches

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                  • #10
                    I still think 1.5 hours is optimistic. I think 1 hour breaks might not be necessary either. 30 min break would be good. Hopefully both tournaments fall somewhere in between the 2 time frames.

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                    • #11
                      How bout alternating the table workers and refs and eliminating the breaks all together. Probably a no go because they can’t charge for the second session. Maybe charge a little more in the beginning.
                      Not enough volunteers more then likely. Do they usually have an extra ref on hand in case something happens? If so that would help, rotate the refs so they can get there breaks, without affecting the length of the tournament.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by HandControl View Post
                        Hinsdale Central's timeline is so much more efficient. I hope the folks running Larkin take notice and follow suit. Taking 14 hours to complete a 16 man tournament and ending at 11:00pm is beyond nuts.

                        Larkin
                        February 10, 2018 – Saturday
                        7:00 AM Weigh-Ins(Upper North Gym) (scratch weight + 3 lbs.)
                        7:30 AM Coaches’ Meeting / Breakfast
                        8:55 AM National Anthem
                        Session I (4 Mats)
                        9:00 AM Wrestling Begins-Prelims
                        11:00 AM* Championship – Quarterfinals
                        1:00PM* Lunch Break
                        2:00 PM* Wrestle Backs – Round I-4 Mats
                        4:00 PM* Championship – Semi-Finals-2 Mats
                        & Wrestle Backs – Round II-2 Mats
                        6:00 PM* Session Ends/Dinner Break
                        Session II (4 Mats)
                        7:00 PM Wrestle Backs – Round III- 2 Mats
                        8:45 PM* Wrestler Introduction
                        9:00 PM* Championship Matches (1st/3rd)

                        Hinsdale Central
                        SESSION I
                        7:30 AM – Weigh-Ins
                        9:00 AM – Championship Prelims
                        10:30 AM – Championship Quarterfinals
                        12:00 PM – Consolation 1st Round
                        1:30 PM – Lunch

                        SESSION II
                        2:00 PM – Championship Semi-Finals & Consolation 2nd Round (simultaneously)
                        3:30 PM – Semi-Final Wrestlebacks (2 mats w/ 2 officials each mat – Required)
                        5:00 PM – Break
                        5:15 PM – 1st & 3rd Place Matches
                        Please tell me "Wrestler Introduction" isn't a joke.
                        You see me doin' thrill-seeker liquor store holdups with a "Born to Lose" tattoo on my chest?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Just an observation View Post
                          How bout alternating the table workers and refs and eliminating the breaks all together. Probably a no go because they can’t charge for the second session. Maybe charge a little more in the beginning.
                          Not enough volunteers more then likely. Do they usually have an extra ref on hand in case something happens? If so that would help, rotate the refs so they can get there breaks, without affecting the length of the tournament.
                          Each sectional is assigned 5 refs; they are already rotating (I have no idea on the actual logistics of that).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Neil McCauley View Post
                            Please tell me "Wrestler Introduction" isn't a joke.
                            Larkin just has a more detailed breakout; Hinsdale will do all the same types of ceremonial stuff.

                            And the introductions are the announcement of the place match competitors; it should take maybe 5 minutes.

                            You know folks, maybe you should just sit back and enjoy a day of good wrestling rather than complain about staying up past your bedtimes. I wish I was close enough to one to attend, but I'm not. Be glad you are.

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                            • #15
                              I don’t know why the IHSA won’t let the 6th match happen like they did last week in the 1A Shelbyville regional.
                              "The harder you work the harder it is to surrender"

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