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  • #76
    Originally posted by southsidehawkeye View Post
    Last 3 years standings of the Catholic league

    2017

    1 Marmion Academy 279.5
    2 Providence Catholic 250.0
    3 Mt Carmel 247.0
    4 Montini Catholic 219.5
    5 St. Rita 132.0

    2018

    1 Montini Catholic 344.5
    2 Mt Carmel 265.5
    3 Marmion Academy 204.0
    4 Providence Catholic 195.0
    5 St. Rita 113.0

    2019

    1 Montini Catholic 276.5
    1 Mt Carmel 276.5
    3 Marmion Academy 270.0
    4 Providence Catholic 207.0
    5 St. Rita 172.5
    Looks like Rita is moving just can't get out of 5th gear

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    • #77
      CCL

      Unfortunately for me, I was sick this weekend and was not able to go to Mt. Carmel. Thanks to Track, I was able to follow and imagine how exciting it would have been to be there. Congratulations to Montini for that furious comeback, and for both Montini and Marmion to have 8 in the finals and win 5. Mt. Carmel did so well because all 14 of their wrestlers placed. 13 in the top 4.

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      • #78
        If you do not think that these two head coaches don’t know what they’re doing you are nuts. As I understand it, as long as they’re in is not an individual champion even most valuable wrestler, it is just a date like a dual meet
        Always support your local wrestling tournament concession stands!!!

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        • #79
          Originally posted by In the Know View Post
          Thank you Twist for your articulation of the situation.

          Additionally, I was told by the officials there, officials NOT there-IHSA rules interpreters along with CCL personnel that the result is Co-Champions just like in football or baseball in the CCL. This was NOT Regionals where a definitive "winner" had to be chosen in order to advance in the State Series. So the Regional rule on tie-breaking DOES NOT apply here is what I was told by IHSA rules officials. Its just like another tournament like Dvorak or Genoseo that has ties in team scores and places.

          Again just applying and repeating what I was told by officials.

          Congratulations to both teams who both did not have their "ideal" line-ups or rosters in the tournament.

          Can't recall the last time there was a tie or co-champs in wrestling.

          Twist you are slightly more "mature" than I am do you remember?
          I can’t think of any previous team ties. Everyone will have to accept and move on.

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          • #80
            SMH

            I want to start a wrestling mom forum wherein we bitch about concession stand prices, our boys not being able to eat, how it's way too early to wake up, and how crazy our husbands are about wrestling. . These threads get entertaining.
            Last edited by MamaMulay; 01-21-2019, 09:28 AM.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by mckbln
              Like I mentioned before. Keep in mind whom you are dealing with. It's the same trolls every year, every thread. The real question us why is this kind of behavior tolerated on this site?
              I can start deleting them all if you like.

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              • #82
                If this is the so called best conference in the country, wrestling is in big trouble. These numbers are alarming. Two teams with full line-ups?


                Montini Catholic 12

                Mt. Carmel 14

                Marmion Academy 14

                Providence Catholic 12

                St. Rita 12

                St. Laurence 10

                De La Salle 7

                Brother Rice 6

                Loyola Academy 5

                Fenwick 6

                DePaul Prep 9

                Leo 4

                St Ignatius College Prep 1

                St. Joseph 2

                Top heavy would be an understatement

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by 40 Reasons View Post
                  If this is the so called best conference in the country, wrestling is in big trouble. These numbers are alarming. Two teams with full line-ups?


                  Montini Catholic 12

                  Mt. Carmel 14

                  Marmion Academy 14

                  Providence Catholic 12

                  St. Rita 12

                  St. Laurence 10

                  De La Salle 7

                  Brother Rice 6

                  Loyola Academy 5

                  Fenwick 6

                  DePaul Prep 9

                  Leo 4

                  St Ignatius College Prep 1

                  St. Joseph 2

                  Top heavy would be an understatement
                  wow with so many empty spots the only fair thing to do would be to declare all the schools as co-champs.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by 40 Reasons View Post
                    If this is the so called best conference in the country, wrestling is in big trouble. These numbers are alarming. Two teams with full line-ups?


                    Montini Catholic 12

                    Mt. Carmel 14

                    Marmion Academy 14

                    Providence Catholic 12

                    St. Rita 12

                    St. Laurence 10

                    De La Salle 7

                    Brother Rice 6

                    Loyola Academy 5

                    Fenwick 6

                    DePaul Prep 9

                    Leo 4

                    St Ignatius College Prep 1

                    St. Joseph 2

                    Top heavy would be an understatement
                    Boys Wrestling has been declining for years.

                    50% less D1 college programs in the last 30 years.

                    Nationwide kids and HS wrestling numbers have been on the decline over the past 10 years.

                    CCL is probably the most dominant conference in Illinois.

                    Probably the conference with the most state medalists year in and year out.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by 40 Reasons View Post
                      If this is the so called best conference in the country, wrestling is in big trouble. These numbers are alarming. Two teams with full line-ups?


                      Montini Catholic 12

                      Mt. Carmel 14

                      Marmion Academy 14

                      Providence Catholic 12

                      St. Rita 12

                      St. Laurence 10

                      De La Salle 7

                      Brother Rice 6

                      Loyola Academy 5

                      Fenwick 6

                      DePaul Prep 9

                      Leo 4

                      St Ignatius College Prep 1

                      St. Joseph 2

                      Top heavy would be an understatement
                      This is more of a private school issue than a wrestling issue. Private school numbers as a whole are declining and coaches at these schools will need to work harder to recruit their hallways.

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                      • #86
                        wrestling numbers

                        Well, I just officiated an 11 school conference tournament (all public schools) and every weight class had between 5 and 8 wrestlers. Check the results page for tournaments or duel meets, you can find duel meets with 3 or 4 matches and 10 or 11 forfeits. It is more than just private schools...
                        wrestlingfan

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by refsforfun View Post
                          Well, I just officiated an 11 school conference tournament (all public schools) and every weight class had between 5 and 8 wrestlers. Check the results page for tournaments or duel meets, you can find duel meets with 3 or 4 matches and 10 or 11 forfeits. It is more than just private schools...
                          Anyone paying attention knows this. One would think the toughest conference in America might fare better than average at keeping numbers up but this (and that ) is simply not the case.

                          With what's being done to those boys from the private school in Covington, KY... it's getting difficult to even trust your shepherds any longer.

                          Oh? I need to pay $10K+ to erroneously have you throw my kid under the bus? Thanks! Choose carefully!
                          "That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be." -- P.C. Hodgell

                          "No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." -- Plato

                          “Being honest may not get you a lot of friends but it’ll always get you the right ones.” -- John Lennon

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                          • #88
                            I would be very surprised if these teams had the same number of entries for regionals.

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                            • #89
                              That is true. They have the option of frosh-soph CCL. Many wrestlers from the non-power schools will compete their and also at their regional.

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