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  • #16
    I would rate the Conant sectional 4 out of the 4.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by TakeDownTwo View Post
      Kudos to the DeKalb Barbs. Ten state qualifiers and an OT loss away from an 11th qualifier. Four of the ten qualifiers are freshmen (T. Curran, D. Curran, D. Lopez & Gillum) and two are sophomores (Aranda & McGee) so, the future looks bright.

      Side notes:
      - Because I'm curious, I wish someone with more time (smarter) than me calculated tournament scoring between DeKalb & OPRF.
      - Fabian Lopez vs Zaccone at 132 will be one of the best matches on Thursday.
      - If they both make it through their brackets, Christensen vs Dahnweih at 195 could be a great finals match-up.
      132 is the toughest weight class this year. When you have a champ from the previous year (diff. weight) ranked 4th, that is pretty tough- plus more that placed last year. Very tough. 132 - 145 are the kids who have had the deepest bracket all their career. Its probably the average weight for kids who wrestled. Probably a little less than the ave weight of a kid in HS but wrestlers on average are probably leaner than the average kid. (I googled it = 125 lbs is ave. for HS, that seems a little low but that is what good said.)
      There are two guys in that zebra costume! Very funny...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Blonjuan44 View Post
        132 is the toughest weight class this year. When you have a champ from the previous year (diff. weight) ranked 4th, that is pretty tough- plus more that placed last year. Very tough. 132 - 145 are the kids who have had the deepest bracket all their career. Its probably the average weight for kids who wrestled. Probably a little less than the ave weight of a kid in HS but wrestlers on average are probably leaner than the average kid. (I googled it = 125 lbs is ave. for HS, that seems a little low but that is what good said.)
        From what I have seen this year, I would stretch it to 132-160. There are a number of teams, as example, Lemont and Batavia, who seemed to be stacked with top wrestlers in those weights. What made 132 so intriguing, is that there was no consensus #1. Going into sectionals, you had Burnoski-Zaccone at Bolingbrook, Bolivar-Lopez at Conant, and Pucino-Harrier at Barrington. Now you have to favor the 3 winners while I would not count out Lopez, after how he wrestled downstate last year against Odom and Precin.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by 40 Reasons View Post
          I would rate the Conant sectional 4 out of the 4.
          How'd you come up with that?

          Here's some simple analysis.

          Top 6 in IllinoisMatmen Ranking:
          24 - Conant
          23 - Bollingbrook
          20 - Joliet Central
          17 - Barrington

          #1s in IllinoisMatmen Ranking:
          5 - Conant
          5 - Joliet Central
          4 - Bollingbrook
          0 - Barrington

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          • #20
            Originally posted by TakeDownTwo View Post
            How'd you come up with that?

            Here's some simple analysis.

            Top 6 in IllinoisMatmen Ranking:
            24 - Conant
            With four of those being at 220.
            "That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be." -- P.C. Hodgell

            "No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." -- Plato

            “Being honest may not get you a lot of friends but it’ll always get you the right ones.” -- John Lennon

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            • #21
              Originally posted by TakeDownTwo View Post
              How'd you come up with that?

              Here's some simple analysis.

              Top 6 in IllinoisMatmen Ranking:
              24 - Conant
              23 - Bollingbrook
              20 - Joliet Central
              17 - Barrington

              #1s in IllinoisMatmen Ranking:
              5 - Conant
              5 - Joliet Central
              4 - Bollingbrook
              0 - Barrington
              Some, who's kids (friends, teams, parents, loyalties, etc.) were at other sectionals will see things differently than others.

              I am not saying that this is what is going on here though.

              Everyone wants to believe that theirs was the toughest.
              Judging by your numbers, it would be hard to argue.

              Even though some will.
              Last edited by Crystal Clearly; 02-12-2019, 08:01 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Crystal Clearly View Post
                Some, who's kids (friends, teams, parents, loyalties, etc.) were at other sectionals will see things differently than others.

                I am not saying that this is what is going on here though.

                Everyone wants to believe that theirs was the toughest.
                Judging by your numbers, it would be hard to argue.

                Even though some will.
                I should have mentioned, I really didn't want to point out that one sectional was better than another. I had no idea how the numbers would work out when I started adding them together. I just wanted to do a little analysis before asking how the poster, who felt the need to state "4 out of the 4", came up with his ranking. Maybe even expand on his reasoning.

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                • #23
                  Bolingbrook Brutality

                  Dad asks son," how does your bracket look?"
                  I have a kid from Sandburg, then MC kid, then Marmion, then Montini.
                  Lets stack best programs in one sectional,who cares about the rest of the
                  kids from schools in sectional?
                  How is this not seeded ?
                  They do it for Football,Basketball.
                  I ran into a teammate who comes home from Boston to watch Sectionals
                  Saturday.
                  Its one day and better then 3 days @ U of I.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TakeDownTwo View Post
                    I should have mentioned, I really didn't want to point out that one sectional was better than another. I had no idea how the numbers would work out when I started adding them together. I just wanted to do a little analysis before asking how the poster, who felt the need to state "4 out of the 4", came up with his ranking. Maybe even expand on his reasoning.
                    Doing the same analysis using the IWCOA rankings (top 6 only) yields a different result:

                    Joliet Central 24
                    Bolingbrook 22
                    Conant 20
                    Barrington 18

                    Most of which shows it is folly to try and “rank” sectionals this way. Heck, how do you even define tough? Hardest to win? Hardest to qualify out of (which would be my choice and also require analysis beyond the top 6)?

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                    • #25
                      It will vary from weight class to weight class.

                      I'm just glad rankings don't earn Wrestlers points before the match starts.

                      Zero to Zero. Wrestle!!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ctdad View Post
                        Doing the same analysis using the IWCOA rankings (top 6 only) yields a different result:

                        Joliet Central 24
                        Bolingbrook 22
                        Conant 20
                        Barrington 18

                        Most of which shows it is folly to try and “rank” sectionals this way. Heck, how do you even define tough? Hardest to win? Hardest to qualify out of (which would be my choice and also require analysis beyond the top 6)?
                        Beyond top 6 is right. You may even have to count down all the way to top 20. Better yet find the average rank of the 4 placers and alternant. I see them equal as iv seen in many years

                        This year the team state teams worked out decent also. 7 of (basically) the top 10 will advance to state. Where should Marmion be ranked with all the injuries they have?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cole's Opionion View Post
                          I’m calling a upset again. The two styles don’t match well for the way that Abe wrestles now. It will work in the favor of Halvorsen I think.
                          You are right. Abe needs to work on his offense. He has only pinned about 95% of his matches this season
                          including all the way through the state finals. I guess your opinion sucks.
                          Do it in the name of heaven....you can justify it in the end.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ToughestSportEver View Post
                            Kudos to Halvorsen also.Nice win. Unless Assad is hurt/sick, maybe would have been wise to actually not beat him at Sectionals. If Assad is healthy at state, they may have just poked the lion with a stick a little early. Disclaimer: Don't know Assad or Halvorsen in anyway shape or form. Just that we have seen it before. Gotta win when it counts. Louis Hayes lost to Real Woods 3 times a few years ago. Including in the finals at Sectionals. But surprised him in the finals at State. Had Hayes beat Woods at Sectionals, highly doubt he would have beat him in the state finals. Could be wrong, but I doubt it.
                            Great post-can you give me the winning Powerball numbers too?
                            Do it in the name of heaven....you can justify it in the end.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by GOLDDOT1973 View Post
                              You are right. Abe needs to work on his offense. He has only pinned about 95% of his matches this season
                              including all the way through the state finals. I guess your opinion sucks.
                              Originally posted by GOLDDOT1973 View Post
                              Great post-can you give me the winning Powerball numbers too?
                              Did you have those written before Assad won, or did scratch them out right after? Wow.....

                              Apologies for not acknowledging Abe Assad's championship, well deserved kid.
                              Last edited by Crystal Clearly; 02-16-2019, 09:16 PM.

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