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    Could Class 3A Illinois put together a line-up to beat them?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by mckbln View Post
    Could Class 3A Illinois put together a line-up to beat them?
    From this year? No, I don't believe so.
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    • #3
      Absolutly. Most definitely if it was dual format and bumping was allowed.

      106-Sotelo
      113-Drousias
      120-Rundell
      126-Ragusin
      132-Bolivar
      138-Benjamin
      145-Chumbley
      152-Stiles
      160-Heller
      170-Ferrante
      182-Assad
      195-Christensen
      220-Danweih
      285-Guttridge

      Sorry but no other high school team beats this all-star team.

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      • #4
        I see Blair winning 8-9 of the matches. Bonus points will be big in Blair favor. Blair by 15.
        Last edited by maddog81; 03-06-2019, 07:39 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Predictions View Post
          Absolutly. Most definitely if it was dual format and bumping was allowed.

          106-Sotelo
          113-Drousias
          120-Rundell
          126-Ragusin
          132-Bolivar
          138-Benjamin
          145-Chumbley
          152-Stiles
          160-Heller
          170-Ferrante
          182-Assad
          195-Christensen
          220-Danweih
          285-Guttridge

          Sorry but no other high school team beats this all-star team.
          I like him a lot, but Danweih replaces Abraham at 220?

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          • #6
            Originally Posted By: bwm57

            I like him a lot, but Dahnweih replaces Abraham at 220?
            Dahnweih is a great wrestler but in my opinion is too small to compete at 220lbs. He bumped up last year and lost to Jimmy Olds 6-3. Jimmy Olds DNP at state at 220lbs last year but did give Dahnweih his worst loss of the season. Olds won on size and strength. Abraham is a different type of wrestler than Olds but Abraham did beat Olds at state last season.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bulldogwrestler View Post
              Dahnweih is a great wrestler but in my opinion is too small to compete at 220lbs. He bumped up last year and lost to Jimmy Olds 6-3. Jimmy Olds DNP at state at 220lbs last year but did give Dahnweih his worst loss of the season. Olds won on size and strength. Abraham is a different type of wrestler than Olds but Abraham did beat Olds at state last season.
              It was also last year and if you think that Blah didn't improve (or is bigger and stronger) on a bad performance from last year, you would be sorely mistaken. And that same year he beat Cadin Koeppel from Cary-Grove by 6 who placed third at 220 lbs. But if you'd like to play the hypothetical game, Blah also pinned Demarco Lee at state last year, who Abraham beat in the finals 4-3.

              That said, at 5'9 Blah is too small compete at 220 lbs in that particular meet.
              Last edited by James_Oliva; 03-06-2019, 09:41 PM.
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              • #8
                Originally Posted By: James Oliva

                That said, at 5'9 Blah is too small compete at 220 lbs in that particular meet.
                I said Dahnweih is an great wrestler and there is no arguing that fact. I think we both agree he is too small to compete at 220lbs based off of your comment above.

                I also said Abraham and Olds are two different type wrestlers. Olds was a big strong 220lbs wrestler and was a bad matchup for Dahnweih. Abraham doesn't win on strength but he is a lot bigger than Dahnweih. If they wrestle against each other who knows who wins? I give Abraham the advantage based on size and size alone.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bulldogwrestler View Post
                  I said Dahnweih is an great wrestler and there is no arguing that fact. I think we both agree he is too small to compete at 220lbs based off of your comment above.

                  I also said Abraham and Olds are two different type wrestlers. Olds was a big strong 220lbs wrestler and was a bad matchup for Dahnweih. Abraham doesn't win on strength but he is a lot bigger than Dahnweih. If they wrestle against each other who knows who wins? I give Abraham the advantage based on size and size alone.
                  And Koeppel was also big and strong and placed the year before. The year Blah beat him.

                  Your entire argument was based on him losing to kid who didn't place while ignoring kids he beat that did.
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                  • #10
                    Originally Posted By: James Oliva

                    And Koeppel was also big and strong and placed the year before. The year Blah beat him.
                    Koeppel was not that big and strong for 220lbs compared to Olds but there is no need to beat a dead horse. No need to go back and forth because I think we both agree Dahnweih is a fantastic wrestler.

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                    • #11
                      This is what I came up with:

                      106-Sotelo vs Wask (4 - 0) Sotelo
                      113-Rundell vs Ryan Miller (7 - 0) Rundell
                      120 Ramos/Surtin vs Trevor Mastrogiovanni (7- 3) Mastrogiovanni
                      126-Illinois has 4 guys I would throw out there. All are tough kids, but Michael Colaiocco is on another level, super tough kid. (7-6) Michael Colaiocco
                      132-Bolivar vs Shayne Van Ness (7-9) Shayne Van Ness
                      138- Odom vs Travis Mastrogiovanni (7-12) Travis Mastrogiovanni
                      145-Chumbley vs Josh Gobencion (13-12) Chumbley
                      152-Stiles vs Nick Incontera (16 - 12) Stiles
                      160-Fernandes vs Dom Mata (16 - 16) Dom Mata
                      170-Ferrante vs Julian Ramirez (16 - 19) Julian Ramirez
                      182-Assad vs Peyton Craft (19 -19) Assad
                      195-Christensen vs Sanoussi Kane (25 - 19) Christensen
                      220-Abraham vs Owen Trephan (25 -25) Owen Trephan
                      285-Guttridge vs Eli Anthony (28 - 25) Guttridge

                      Illinois gets the win! Pack your Bags Blair you suck! Breaking this down, just shows how ridiculous Blair is.

                      NCAA

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gulach View Post
                        This is what I came up with:

                        106-Sotelo vs Wask (4 - 0) Sotelo
                        113-Rundell vs Ryan Miller (7 - 0) Rundell
                        120 Ramos/Surtin vs Trevor Mastrogiovanni (7- 3) Mastrogiovanni
                        126-Illinois has 4 guys I would throw out there. All are tough kids, but Michael Colaiocco is on another level, super tough kid. (7-6) Michael Colaiocco
                        132-Bolivar vs Shayne Van Ness (7-9) Shayne Van Ness
                        138- Odom vs Travis Mastrogiovanni (7-12) Travis Mastrogiovanni
                        145-Chumbley vs Josh Gobencion (13-12) Chumbley
                        152-Stiles vs Nick Incontera (16 - 12) Stiles
                        160-Fernandes vs Dom Mata (16 - 16) Dom Mata
                        170-Ferrante vs Julian Ramirez (16 - 19) Julian Ramirez
                        182-Assad vs Peyton Craft (19 -19) Assad
                        195-Christensen vs Sanoussi Kane (25 - 19) Christensen
                        220-Abraham vs Owen Trephan (25 -25) Owen Trephan
                        285-Guttridge vs Eli Anthony (28 - 25) Guttridge

                        Illinois gets the win! Pack your Bags Blair you suck! Breaking this down, just shows how ridiculous Blair is.

                        NCAA
                        This also shows how ridiculous the situation is.

                        On one hand you have an Illinois team having taken most of their wrestlers from teams who recruit from the best of the state/area, on the other, you have Blair taking most of their wrestlers from the best of the country.

                        Illinois could win, but the toss-ups and bonus points obviously would be the determining factor.

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                        • #13
                          I like gulach line up better except Luffman is my 285.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, agree Luffman would fit in very nice at 285.

                            Why don't more schools follow the Blair model?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gulach View Post
                              Yes, agree Luffman would fit in very nice at 285.

                              Why don't more schools follow the Blair model?
                              Most are not in position to become private boarding schools with 100 million endowments.

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