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Here is another thing to think about with Bosco. Last year he was a sectional qualifier at 182. He had never qualified for state, ends up moving up to 285, weighing around 205 to 210 regularly, and ends up going undefeated. He also beat two guys along the way (borsma and Reynolds) that were #1 in the state at any given time. Hard to vote against that! Crush'em Eagles!
no bad weight on bosco. show me another hwt you can say that about. that's what made up for some of those 60 lb. weight variances. Kid has a great frame and makes an intriguing prospect for the next level. hes been my pick to win all along.

i saw a lot of kids moving up. you had two 170 lbers move up to 182. they both placed. it certainly worked for labarbra. odom went big from last year.

your ow is still fernau.
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Vandevere or Odom are great choices. Fernau beat some highly ranked kids but it could be argued that he only scored about 3 points a match and a ref that was quick to call stalling would have spelled his demise. The other guys left no doubt they were the best.
Vandervere and Odom are absolutely awesome, (Ragusin and Hamiti are best in my opinion). as are many of the other Champs
again this year. But the award is meant to go to the wrestlers who had the most outstanding tournament. Point margins are something to consider but quality of opponents certainly trumps that category.

Candidates are a no brainer for me
Fernau
Ogunsanya

I vote Fernau
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Fernau, everyone he beat was on the podium. Plus beating the #1 #2 and #3 ranked kids in the state along the way. Not flashy but certainly outstanding.
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I don't know if Bosco is the lightest wrestler to ever win the 285 championship, but he faced and beat every behemoth put in front of him all year. He had to do it with technique because he sometimes gave up a 60plus pound discrepancy.
Technique??? Every match I watched that kid wrestle this weekend, he had picked up his opponents off the ground and taken them down. That's more strength than technique no?? For that, I give the kid kudos and congratulate him on his title, but for him being the #1 guy and undefeated on the season and winning close matches each round, I couldn't see him as having the most outstanding award.

Fernau would have to get my vote based off of beating the #1, #2, and #4 guys in the state to win the bracket. Kid came to wrestle and found a way to win each match. Congrats to him on the title.
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no bad weight on bosco. show me another hwt you can say that about. that's what made up for some of those 60 lb. weight variances. Kid has a great frame and makes an intriguing prospect for the next level. hes been my pick to win all along.

i saw a lot of kids moving up. you had two 170 lbers move up to 182. they both placed. it certainly worked for labarbra. odom went big from last year.

your ow is still fernau.
Parker really gave up on 170 after the holidays and his (relatively) poor performance at Dvorak. I'm not sure he wrestled any 170 after that; per one of his coaches, he just didn't feel good at that weight. Cutting is not always the best way; you have to go where you feel right

Same thing happened last year to him, was 160 most of the year, went up to 170 for the state series and became a state qualifier. Could be a winter grower. One more year to go for him.
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Vandervere and Odom are absolutely awesome, (Ragusin and Hamiti are best in my opinion). as are many of the other Champs
again this year. But the award is meant to go to the wrestlers who had the most outstanding tournament. Point margins are something to consider but quality of opponents certainly trumps that category.

Candidates are a no brainer for me
Fernau
Ogunsanya

I vote Fernau
If you going to judge it on how far past your expectations you made per the above, then you would have to the give it to the I think UNRANKED Pekin wrestler that made it to the finals, did he cow-catcher his way all the way there? Yes he lost in the finals. But that kid was an example of why they decide it on the mat.
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If you going to judge it on how far past your expectations you made per the above, then you would have to the give it to the I think UNRANKED Pekin wrestler that made it to the finals, did he cow-catcher his way all the way there? Yes he lost in the finals. But that kid was an example of why they decide it on the mat.
To be fair, Rob Sherrill had him ranked 9th in his IWCOA rankings. Still, it was not a place he was expected to be. Overall, an impressive performance for a 4th place sectional qualifier.
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To be fair, Rob Sherrill had him ranked 9th in his IWCOA rankings. Still, it was not a place he was expected to be. Overall, an impressive performance for a 4th place sectional qualifier.
He is also a returning state placer at 195. It is not like the kid started wrestling this season. He has a fun style that makes anything possible. King of the neck whips and overhooks. Good for him.
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I don't know if Bosco is the lightest wrestler to ever win the 285 championship, but he faced and beat every behemoth put in front of him all year. He had to do it with technique because he sometimes gave up a 60plus pound discrepancy.
Fenwick had a state champ that weight around 200 and was a Freshman!!! this is around 2000. anyone remember? I might be wrong.....
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herrera 215 not heavy, 2nd not first....
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