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Old 10-10-2019
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Fox has a bunch of liberal nut jobs running the place...not as many as everybody else, but that is why they can claim to be fair and balanced...because they allow opposing opinions. I don't get Fox out here in the woods, so I can't answer your questions.
Are you calling Shep Smith, Juan Williams, Chris Wallace and Judge Napolitano "liberal nut jobs"? Chris Wallace has been awful (read: uber conservative and a disappointment to his father Mike Wallace until very recently), and I never agreed with Judge Napolitano until he came out with the reasoned opinions that Trump obstructed justice per the Mueller report, and that Trump violated the law with his Ukraine shakedown.

Shep Smith is at least fair some times. Juan Williams is the latest Alan Colmes, a virtual nonentity.

The poll was of America, though, not of the Fox News studio bloviators. Even Trump is smart enough to realize he's in big, big trouble:


In light of the poll and other polls like it, and in light of the fact that this latest poll doesn't take into account the possible slaughter of the Kurds, I have changed my Impeachment leanings:

Impeachment was at guaranteed, and it moves to absolute Master lock.

Removal was at likely, and it moves to probable. (For many people "likely" can be a synonym for "probable," but for me it depends on the circumstances. In the case of impeachment, "likely" for me equals anything over a 25% chance of happening. "Probable" is anything over a 50% chance of happening.).
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Are you calling Shep Smith, Juan Williams, Chris Wallace and Judge Napolitano "liberal nut jobs"? Chris Wallace has been awful (read: uber conservative and a disappointment to his father Mike Wallace until very recently), and I never agreed with Judge Napolitano until he came out with the reasoned opinions that Trump obstructed justice per the Mueller report, and that Trump violated the law with his Ukraine shakedown.

Shep Smith is at least fair some times. Juan Williams is the latest Alan Colmes, a virtual nonentity.

The poll was of America, though, not of the Fox News studio bloviators. Even Trump is smart enough to realize he's in big, big trouble:



In light of the poll and other polls like it, and in light of the fact that this latest poll doesn't take into account the possible slaughter of the Kurds, I have changed my Impeachment leanings:

Impeachment was at guaranteed, and it moves to absolute Master lock.

Removal was at likely, and it moves to probable. (For many people "likely" can be a synonym for "probable," but for me it depends on the circumstances. In the case of impeachment, "likely" for me equals anything over a 25% chance of happening. "Probable" is anything over a 50% chance of happening.).
The management/owners at Fox news are loosing their way and it is infecting the rest of the network.

The poll was conducted with 48% democrats 40% Republicans(if I remember correctly) the rest are supposed independents.

If Impeachment is so imminent, why won't Nancy call a vote to start the process?

At this point I am just going to chuckle at this latest "I got him this time" I believe that's a Wile E. Coyote quote.

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Fox news better get their act together and pucker up good when the President bends over or else he will start making sophomoric nicknames for them and unleashing on twitter about "low ratings" and such.

I just saw this, not sure if connected...
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/two-men-ti...opstories.html
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Fox news better get their act together and pucker up good when the President bends over or else he will start making sophomoric nicknames for them and unleashing on twitter about "low ratings" and such.

I just saw this, not sure if connected...
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/two-men-ti...opstories.html
Very connected. Superb word choice, oldpioneer! "Connected" like they say in mob movies. These two Russian-born fellows were supposed to be deposed today in the Impeachment Inquiry.

They were photographed having lunch with Rudy Giuliani yesterday, then tried to use a one-way ticket to flee the country.

Unbelievable. This is like the last ten minutes of the movie Casino!
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Fox news better get their act together and pucker up good when the President bends over or else he will start making sophomoric nicknames for them and unleashing on twitter about "low ratings" and such.

I just saw this, not sure if connected...
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/two-men-ti...opstories.html
Now I'm confused...All Gore said that there is "no controlling legal authority"...It appears that Al was wrong, or is it just Democrats that have "no controlling legal authority".

Remember who Al accepted money from?...............China, right before Bill normalized trade relations with them...oh...and let them walk out of Los Alamos with the recipe for a nuclear bomb.

I would have more sympathy for your arguments if you would hold Democrats to the same standard. If it were not for double standards Democrats would not have any standards at all.

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Now I'm confused...All Gore said that there is "no controlling legal authority"...It appears that Al was wrong, or is it just Democrats that have "no controlling legal authority".

Remember who Al accepted money from?...............China, right before Bill normalized trade relations with them...oh...and let them walk out of Los Alamos with the recipe for a nuclear bomb.

I would have more sympathy for your arguments if you would hold Democrats to the same standard. If it were not for double standards Democrats would not have any standards at all.
Here are the differences between our arguments, Senator Mal: (1) Your argument is a conspiracy theory, while mine is backed up by evidence, including documents signed by Trump, videotape of him, and audiotape of him. (2) Your conspiracy theory goes back to around 1995. Nobody wrestling in college or high school right now was even born then. My allegations concern things that happened recently, some of them discovered for the first time today.

Before gaveling today's session to a close, I leave you with this meme of wisdom:


Casino was released by Universal Pictures in 1995.
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Here are the differences between our arguments, Senator Mal: (1) Your argument is a conspiracy theory, while mine is backed up by evidence, including documents signed by Trump, videotape of him, and audiotape of him. (2) Your conspiracy theory goes back to around 1995. Nobody wrestling in college or high school right now was even born then. My allegations concern things that happened recently, some of them discovered for the first time today.
Hypocrisy is timeless. My "conspiracy theory" ended in convictions...except for those that had "no controlling legal authority" So now anything involving a Democrat is a "conspiracy theory"...even if it's documented history.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...trie052299.htm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...hung051299.htm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...background.htm

Are you aware that two Ukrainians were convicted for meddling in our 2016 elections...conspiring to get Hillary elected. One of them was caught on tape explaining how he did it...but this is just another one of my "conspiracy theories"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TFh1YJynGA

You haven't offered your great wisdom on this subject yet. You have been very diligent in your pursuit of corruption...I just thought you would like to know what is going on.

https://illinoismatmen.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67077

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Trump sent his best man to get to the bottom of "fake news" coming out of Fox. That is correct, or AG has made this his priority.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-...050100920.html
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Trump sent his best man to get to the bottom of "fake news" coming out of Fox. That is correct, or AG has made this his priority.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-...050100920.html
Rupert Murdoch's kids are in charge now...the rumor is that their wives are hen pecking them towards liberalism.
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Very connected. Superb word choice, oldpioneer! "Connected" like they say in mob movies. These two Russian-born fellows were supposed to be deposed today in the Impeachment Inquiry.

They were photographed having lunch with Rudy Giuliani yesterday, then tried to use a one-way ticket to flee the country.

Unbelievable. This is like the last ten minutes of the movie Casino!
Chief, this stuff does seem to wiff of mob dealings. Loyalty, secrecy, and such. But in the end, just like Casino, everyone eventually saves themselves and go down.
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