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just google the pictures comment story - I am sure Fox covered it also, normally it would be crazy but in this case par for the course so not a big deal. Calling a new diplomat a stupid person today - never ends. You should also look at Snopes.com, and in your case replace "Jeff Ross" with "Don Rickles" - both famous insult comedians for different generations I guess, if nicknames and insults is the game. In fact Jeff Ross mc'd two Trump roasts, at least he was willing to be roasted. "China is still being hard headed, but eventually they will have to come around because they are loosing factories."- they leased Hong Kong out for 99 years, they can easily wait 1 or 5 years until Trump is gone. I was just in Brazil, (3rd world, but less homeless than in Chicago, less shooting but still a better place to get stabbed) sad to say the Soy Bean market will never come back to Illinois like it was...- and as people are finding out they don't store well in bins made for corn...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-comey-1107762
I don't watch Fox News.

When Trump says something stupid I just start laughing, because can hear liberal heads exploding from miles away. Sometimes he is just yanking your chain...Sometimes stupid is just natural for him.

China was a third world country right up until Bill Clinton normalized trade relations with them. Their entire economy was built by American companies moving to China. Tariffs are causing those companies to look for cheaper alternatives. They will have to stop the bleeding at some point...their economy can not survive with out the US market.

The farmers will figure out where to get their next meal. If they can't afford Red Lobster they will just go on government welfare.

Here is my search results...you pick which one you want to read.

Tariffs pressure Chinese factories to upgrade or move, not to the U.S. ...
https://www.latimes.com/.../la-fg-ch...ngdong-2019052...

May 23, 2019 - The tit-for-tat trade war between Washington and Beijing is pushing some foreign manufacturers to move factories out of China — not to the United States, despite President Trump's insistence that tariffs will bring back U.S. factory jobs, but to a “second China,” in Southeast Asia.
U.S. Imports From Vietnam Soar as Chinese Factories Simply Move ...
https://www.newsweek.com › U.S. › Economy › Us › Vietnam › China › Trade › War

May 28, 2019 - Amid rising trade tensions between Beijing and Washington, the Trump administration has said that tariffs will force companies producing in China to relocate factories to nearby countries.
Computing Tech manufacturing is moving out of China ... - Digital Trends
https://www.digitaltrends.com/.../us...turing-without...

6 days ago - Despite the fact that President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping have negotiated a temporary cease-fire in the trade war, many major tech companies are moving ahead with plans to close down factories in China and relocate them elsewhere. ... Before the trade truce was ...

Manufacturers Are Leaving China, But Not Due to Trade War and ...
https://fortune.com/2019/06/07/us-ch...urers-leaving/
Jun 7, 2019 - Some manufacturers were considering a China exit before tariffs increased ... “Businesses moving supply chains out of China long predates the ...

Why Nintendo, Google and others may move manufacturing out of ...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/tech/...ing/index.html
Jun 14, 2019 - Nintendo and Google are reportedly moving some manufacturing out of China, joining the many who have considered expanding their ...

Around 200 US Companies Considering Moving Production From ...
https://www.theepochtimes.com/around...ng-moving-prod...

Apr 29, 2019 - The trade dispute between the United States and China—with U.S. tariffs ... in China to move their factories out of the country to prevent losses.

Chinese companies moving to Vietnam keep quiet on trade war to ...
https://www.scmp.com › Economy › China Economy

May 16, 2019 - Chinese manufacturers are keeping their lips sealed in the domestic trade war debate because of fears of retaliation all sides of local ...
Trade war pushing companies from China to Vietnam, but experts ...
https://www.scmp.com › Economy › China Economy

May 8, 2019 - Some Chinese manufacturers, though, have struggled to recruit those ... So if you're looking to move in the near future, that is still the best bet.”.

One Trump Victory: Companies Rethink China - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/05/b...ecoupling.html

Apr 5, 2019 - The trade war is nearing a possible truce, but global companies are nevertheless moving to reduce their dependence on Chinese factories to ...

Chinese Manufacturing Companies Moving to the US | TECMA
https://www.tecma.com/chinese-manufacturing-companies/
China gets a bad rap for taking US jobs, but a recent trend is seeing Chinese manufacturing companies moving to the US in search of lower production costs ...
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Snopes is just a bunch of left wing hacks...They always say that Democrats are right

Do You Trust Snopes? You Won’t After Reading This.
By Food Babe


The big players in the GMO and agrochemical industry – Monsanto, Bayer, Dow, Syngenta, DuPont – are engaging in an extensive public relations, advertising, lobbying and political campaigning to make sure that genetically engineered crops (GMOs), and the chemical pesticides they require, continue to proliferate in the U.S.

To improve their public image, they are attempting to manipulate everything we see and hear about GMO crops and pesticides in the media and on TV, the internet and print articles – using propaganda-laden commercials, “mommy-blogger” articles, farmer endorsements, hired operatives to change Wikipedia, and front group websites. The biotech industry is feeling threatened, and their profits hang in the balance. They are trying to silence the truth!

We now have evidence that the website Snopes.com is being manipulated by the industry too. But first, let’s examine what Snopes really is…
A lot of people trust the website Snopes.com and use it to fact-check things they hear on the internet. For no reason whatsoever, this mom-and-pop website has been put on a pedestal as if they are the be-all and end-all of truth on the internet.

Facebook recently teamed up with Snopes, allowing them become an arbitrator of fake news circulating on their network, essentially elevating them as an authoritative source of information. I find this development alarming on many levels:

While there is some fake news on the internet, this opens up the possibility that op-ed’s and independent journalism will get labeled as “fake news” if Snopes doesn’t agree with an opinion.
Articles can be deemed “false” if Snopes conducts sloppy fact checking. When it comes to the topic of food, it is imperative that everyone understands that this field is rampant with corrupt paid-off scientists and front groups that are working to protect profits of corporations at the expense of our health. You can not always trust information coming from self-proclaimed independent experts, and sources must be vetted extensively.
We all have the ability to use critical thinking skills while reading news on Facebook or any other online platform – and should determine for ourselves what is false and what is the truth – instead of relying on the work of websites like Snopes to do that for us.
Everyone should feel empowered to seek out the truth on their own. Especially when it comes to our health, we need to be our own advocates and investigate the food that we are eating.
This is treading too close to the line of censorship and can stifle our freedoms to express our ideas.
Is Snopes a credible and authoritative source of information?
Snopes is now 50% owned by an ad agency (Proper Media) and they make money by generating millions of views on the 3rd-party advertisements on their website. It simply makes sense for them to seek out articles that are viral to “debunk”, so that they can piggy-back on that traffic and generate more advertising revenue.
Snopes was founded by a husband and wife team who are now in the middle of a contentious divorce in which founder David Mikkelsen has been accused of embezzling $98,000 of company money to spend on “himself and prostitutes”.
Snopes now has a hired team of suspect fact checkers who collaborate to debunk falsehoods that are trending on the internet.
These fact checkers reportedly have no editorial oversight and do not follow standard journalistic procedures such as interviewing the authors of articles they are trying to debunk to get all sides of the story.
Snopes doesn’t have a formal screening process for hiring fact checkers and for evaluating applicants for any potential conflicts of interest. Without such standards, it is very easy for them to be infiltrated by those who work with the industry and who have a hidden agenda.
The recent series of events below demonstrates how Snopes has been influenced by Monsanto into manipulating the public opinion about the dangers of their bestselling product, Roundup weedkiller (aka glyphosate).
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Monsanto has made BILLIONS off of the weedkiller Roundup (aka glyphosate) along with their Roundup-Ready GMO seeds, but sales have been plummeting since the truth about this toxic product is coming out. They are doing everything they can to keep those profits coming in!

Food Democracy Now! and The Detox Project conducted a report showing how this popular weedkiller is present in many popular American foods and when my blog post went viral (Millions of views!), Snopes came out with an article claiming that it was a “MIXTURE” of truth and fiction.
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Snopes suddenly changed their assessment to FALSE about 24 hours later:
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Did the facts really change? Why would they call this information FALSE?

When you compare both versions of Snopes’ article, you see that they edited it to suit a narrative that fits Monsanto’s agenda – it’s outrageous!
It’s as if Monsanto edited it themselves and sent it off to Snopes for publication. Entire sentences and paragraphs were removed that were hurtful to Monsanto. Important data was removed entirely. The wording was changed to make the findings of an independent FDA-registered laboratory seem less scientific or credible…

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The data about how Cheerios and Stacy’s Pita Chips were found to have MORE glyphosate than the level permitted by the U.S. government in drinking water (700 ppb) was completely removed! Apparently Snopes believes it’s not factual or important to mention that some foods were found to have more weedkiller in them than even our lax regulations allow…

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In this first revision, Snopes makes a huge mistake in stating that the World Health Organization’s International Agency For Research on Cancer’s (IARC) finding that glyphosate is probably carcinogenic to humans was “overturned in March 2016”, which is NOT TRUE…

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IARC’s 2015 assessment has NOT been overturned, this is just what Monsanto dreams would happen. In reality, the team of international independent cancer scientists at IARC who made the finding that glyphosate “probably causes cancer in humans” are defending their decision, while being attacked by Monsanto with their lobbying group attempting to cut off IARC’s funding. The 17 independent scientists at IARC came to an unanimous decision that isn’t muddled by industry ties, and Monsanto is trying to shut them up.

The subsequent 2016 Joint FAO-WHO Meeting on Pesticide Residues (JMPR) is not reliable as the scientists on the panel have a giant conflict of interest in working with ILSI Europe, a group funded by Monsanto, CropLife, and big food companies, along with a board of trustees comprised of industry execs from Monsanto, Syngenta, DuPont, Nestle and others. Snopes is WRONG to say their finding is the “current consensus amongst the world’s regulatory agencies”. That’s the industry-funded view!

A large body of peer reviewed research links glyphosate to cancer, reproductive problems, liver, kidney and skin cell damage, antibiotic-resistance, and more – but Monsanto doesn’t want the world to know the truth. The industry has a long history of of concealing health risks about their products from the public.

“Historically, the same thing happened with tobacco, the same thing happened with asbestos, the same thing happened with arsenic. It’s not junk science.” ~ Aaron Blair, PhD, MPH, internationally renowned epidemiologist and the author of more than 450 scientific papers, who spent thirty years at the National Cancer Institute. Dr. Blair led the IARC panel.

After Snopes realized their mistake, they revised this section of their article YET AGAIN for a second time…
Which just goes to show they don’t properly research the facts before publishing stories!

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Snopes completely removed their inquiry into the possibility that Monsanto has influence over the FDA and commentary about the potential harm of glyphosate to humans…
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Monsanto has a long and sordid history of infiltrating the government and our regulatory agencies such as the FDA and EPA.
The FDA has been caught having closed-door meetings with industry representatives several times in the past. There is evidence that Monsanto met with the FDA specifically to discuss glyphosate residues in food in 2016:

“In April of this year, Monsanto’s international regulatory affairs manager Amelia Jackson-Gheissari emailed FDA asking to set up a time to talk about “enforcement of residue levels in the USA, particularly glyphosate.” ~ Huffington Post, September 2016

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Monsanto also had secret talks with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) about glyphosate and are trying to hide the documentation from the public.

“The plaintiffs’ attorneys say at least four specific documents they have obtained are clearly in the public interest and “illuminate that one of Monsanto’s chief business strategies is its secret and untoward influence on EPA.” – Huffington Post, January 2017

Likewise, the industry group CropLife (which represents Monsanto and agrochemical companies) tried to stop the EPA from convening their scientific panel to review the carcinogenic potential of glyphosate. Read their August 24, 2016 letter to the EPA here. (The meeting took place in December, and the EPA’s findings have not yet been made public.)

Yet, my post was called “unsubstantiated”…

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Who is really speaking the truth here? Who is distorting the facts? Why is Snopes helping Monsanto bury this story? Remember: Snopes makes all of their money from advertising.
Advertisements on Snopes website for Monsanto/Bayer:

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The Shocking Revelation! Why Snopes Changed Their Article To “False”…
It was brought to my attention that after Snopes first called our piece a “MIXTURE” of truth, Monsanto’s operative (aka Kevin Folta) swept in and started bullying the reporter at Snopes into changing his article to claim that the information we presented was “FALSE”.

Kevin Folta tweeted Snopes and their reporter (Alex Kasprak) multiple times, again, and again, and again, and again, until they agreed to listen to him…

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Kevin Folta is the scientist that has been widely discredited in the New York Times for his secret dealings with the industry and Monsanto.
He is NOT independent and works right along with Monsanto executives, industry consultants, and lobbyists to spread their propaganda…

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Here, Kevin Folta solicited for and received a $25,000 grant from Monsanto to help them with their “3rd party approach to developing advocacy”.
In other words, this is how Monsanto quietly paid Kevin Folta to advocate for them…

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Kevin Folta will now gladly point you to his funding page in an attempt to show that he is “independent” and “transparent”, however it shows he receives funding from…
The American Seed Trade Association – self described “advocates for the industry” led by corporate executives from Bayer, AgReliant Genetic, Dupont Pioneer.
The Oregon Farm Bureau – a powerful lobbying group for the industry and Big Ag.
Manitoba Canola Growers – funded by canola check off program, a major GMO crop.
In 2016, he was paid a $5,000 honorarium by the Florida Agrichemical and Fertilizer Association – an industry trade group for makers of pesticides and herbicides, of which he claims the funds are used to support his “science communication outreach program”. How is this outreach “independent” again?
For more on Kevin Folta’s connections to Monsanto and the industry, READ THIS:
Food Industry Enlisted Academics in G.M.O. Lobbying War, Emails Show – New York Times
The problem with science journalism: we’ve forgotten that reality matters most – The Guardian
Seed Money: True Confessions Of A GMO Defender – BuzzFeed
Kevin Folta’s Problem With Ethics – GM Watch
Our Investigation of Big Food and its Front Groups – U.S. Right To Know
It’s apparent from this series of events that Snopes edited their article to be favorable to Monsanto at the request of Kevin Folta.
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Just as I had reported, Monsanto is scrambling to bury this story and Snopes is just one channel that they are using to make people believe that any story speaking negatively about Roundup and GMOs is false. This is a dirty fight and Monsanto’s propaganda is in full force. This Snopes piece is all marketing. Marketing for Monsanto!

We contacted Snopes, but they refuse to correct their story:
Snopes response to Food Babe: “The change in rating was mainly the result of my narrowing the focus of the claim to the alleged conspiracy to suppress residue data. This was in response to criticism from ‘both sides’ about a lack of clarity my original approach took. The issue with the FDN study, of course, is that its methods have not been peer-reviewed or even made public, outside of the fact that the report states the tool was an LC-MS-MS in an FDA-certified lab… My approach is to take the totality of these data, which argues that at environmentally relevant concentrations there is no harm through diet, while allowing that debate still exists within the the scientific community. That remains my position.”

After all of this… Kevin Folta admits that the glyphosate tests that we reported on were 100% CORRECT…

That’s right. He contacted Anresco Laboratories and found that their testing was done 100% correctly and obtained honestly. In fact, in his podcast he admits he should have contacted them first. Yet Snopes still calls this report FALSE. Isn’t this ridiculous?

Read Anresco Laboratories test results here and the statement on the validity of their testing here.

Food Babe Army CALL TO ACTION:
1. Contact Snopes here and tell them that their article about glyphosate in food is spreading misinformation propagated by discredited scientist Kevin Folta and should be retracted.
2. Spread the word that Snopes.com is NOT to be trusted. Share this post now!
If you have friends or family that use Snopes as a factual source of information, please share this post with them! This is how we cut the legs off of Monsanto’s propaganda machine. We need to expose who Snopes really is and what they stand for. The truth will set you free!

Xo,

Vani
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Daily new low? Just likes himself being talked about I guess. Its sad when people are happy our anti-vaxer President is spouting non-sense - like he does it on purpose or with a master plan or to gas-light people. Consider that he might really be just a weirdo with money. Look at the list of people he hired that have said he is a rich weirdo. Today is a typical day. Rational people don't think that it is funny. His Generals ignore his orders, that is dangerous - such as the assassination he tried to order. I think you are looking for an entertainer, please hire a better comedian. This info is listed today everywhere if you don't like the source.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ice/ar-AAEb8Zx

https://www.vox.com/2019/7/11/206901...s-july-11-2019

PS, science always have two opinions, so your posts with odd small dissections of difference mean nothing. The people you listed about climate change all agreed with climate change, just not particular aspects of it. PS, the autobon just melted. Don't like Snopes, pick a regular news station, your bizarre sources are simply bizarre sources.
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Daily new low? Just likes himself being talked about I guess. Its sad when people are happy our anti-vaxer President is spouting non-sense - like he does it on purpose or with a master plan or to gas-light people. Consider that he might really be just a weirdo with money. Look at the list of people he hired that have said he is a rich weirdo. Today is a typical day. Rational people don't think that it is funny. His Generals ignore his orders, that is dangerous - such as the assassination he tried to order. I think you are looking for an entertainer, please hire a better comedian. This info is listed today everywhere if you don't like the source.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ice/ar-AAEb8Zx

https://www.vox.com/2019/7/11/206901...s-july-11-2019

PS, science always have two opinions, so your posts with odd small dissections of difference mean nothing. The people you listed about climate change all agreed with climate change, just not particular aspects of it. PS, the autobon just melted. Don't like Snopes, pick a regular news station, your bizarre sources are simply bizarre sources.
Yes, he is a "rich weirdo" That is precisely what I don't like about him. I don't like his mannerisms...his speech patterns make me cringe...he is arrogant...self centered...womanizer...divorced...cheater...he got rich buying politicians...he's just a dork. All of those things are superficial. You are focusing things that would not bother you much if he was a liberal Democrat.

I would much rather have a good decent human being for president...a "nice guy", but you know what they say about nice guys...they always finish last.


While there is a long list of things that I despise about Trump, they are mostly superficial. He is making good choices for the most part. His biggest failure is his massive spending.

North Korea is not launching missiles over Japan anymore...there is some hope for long term stability in the region.

NATO allies are paying more of their fair share.

Mexico has put troops on their borders

He got rid of an agreement that would allow Iran to have nuclear weapons in a few more years.

He is cutting useless redundant regulations.

He is getting a lot of judges confirmed.

He eliminated the insurance mandate.

He recognized Jerusalem as Israels capital.

He is rebuilding the military, but used great restraint when Iran was trying to provoke him into war.

He is producing American energy at record levels.

He is fighting to control the border. Illegals are the only reason Democrats even have a chance to win elections on a national level

...and he fights back when he is attacked.

When I weigh the pros and cons, the cons are basically just superficial...the pro's are substantive.


Science is not based on opinion, its based on fact. I would sincerely hope that every scientist, or even every person on the planet would agree that the climate is changing. Its always has been changing and it always will. The difference now is that politicians have found a way to profit from a naturally occurring phenomenon.

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Yes, he is a "rich weirdo" That is precisely what I don't like about him. I don't like his mannerisms...his speech patterns make me cringe...he is arrogant...self centered...womanizer...divorced...cheater...he got rich buying politicians...he's just a dork. All of those things are superficial. You are focusing things that would not bother you much if he was a liberal Democrat.

Yet, you champion him as a sucess.

I would much rather have a good decent human being for president...a "nice guy", but you know what they say about nice guys...they always finish last.

See above.


While there is a long list of things that I despise about Trump, they are mostly superficial. He is making good choices for the most part. His biggest failure is his massive spending.

If that is your example of his biggest failure, you just aren't paying attention.

North Korea is not launching missiles over Japan anymore...there is some hope for long term stability in the region.

They stepped up their launches when Trump was elected - to get the attention they have gotten from him? How has the attention Trump has paid North Korea, and specifically Kim Jong Un, helped the US-NK relations? They/he are laughing at Trump and know exactly how to gain concession from Trump (as do the rest of the world's dictators) - compliment him.

NATO allies are paying more of their fair share.

That's a big accomplishment....

Mexico has put troops on their borders

See above... (what are they doing?)

He got rid of an agreement that would allow Iran to have nuclear weapons in a few more years.

GOP propaganda. Iran has had the ability to produce weapons-grade nuclear material for years, they just haven't. Until now.

He is cutting useless redundant regulations.

The "useless, redundant regulations" that are meant to stem the tide of environmental disaster?
With Trumps deregulations and virtual elimination of the EPA, expect climate change to get exponentially worse that it would have with the "compromised" regulations the were in place, that only hoped to slow climate change, not reverse or eliminate it.


He is getting a lot of judges confirmed.

Judges whose loyalties lie with Trump, lobbyists and corporations, not the Constitution.

He eliminated the insurance mandate.

So now, millions of Americans can suffer and die faster, in more agony, and more unnecessarily than ever.

He recognized Jerusalem as Israels capital.

That's a big accomplishment....

He is rebuilding the military, but used great restraint when Iran was trying to provoke him into war.

Because our military wasn't the best equipped, trained, and formidable in the world before?
The "crisis" with Iran was one HE created. As was the one with North Korea, Mexico, China, etc. He created these crises, then appears to alleviate or eliminate them so he appears to be presidential. Which he does, to the morons who cannot see past their blind devotion to an idiot.


He is producing American energy at record levels.

What does that even mean?
I hope you are referring to coal.
(Please say yes)

He is fighting to control the border. Illegals are the only reason Democrats even have a chance to win elections on a national level

GOP propaganda.
You continually say you don't watch Fox News, yet your points and arguments (i.e. garbage) are right out of their narrative. If you truly don't, then the websites/YouTube channels/podcasts etc. that you watch are in lock step with Fox News.
Voter fraud conspiracy, for both parties mind you, has been widely debunked (by everyone BUT Fox News).
The only way Republicans win elections, in areas that aren't deep, DEEP red, is through voter suppression and gerrymandering.

...and he fights back when he is attacked.

Like a rebellious, ill-mannered child would. By throwing a fit and launching insults via Twitter. Hardly the acts a "stable genius" would demonstrate.

When I weigh the pros and cons, the cons are basically just superficial...the pro's are substantive.

Your cons are superficial because you choose to ignore them, because you refuse to see the big picture.

His narcissistic personality goes way, WAY beyond that of what a "typical" politician would have.
His delusions of grandeur are that of what a dictator (i.e. Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin etc.) would have.
He is systematically dismantling the fabric of American democracy with his ridiculous judicial nominations and Cabinet appointments, completely circumventing the vetting process and role of Congress as a co-equal branch and check on the Executive (and Judicial) branch of government.
Instead of "Draining the Swamp" he is opening the floodgates and making it worse. Not unlike what will undoubtedly happen to the Mississippi Delta area due to Barry's visit.


Science is not based on opinion, its based on fact. I would sincerely hope that every scientist, or even every person on the planet would agree that the climate is changing. Its always has been changing and it always will. The difference now is that politicians have found a way to profit from a naturally occurring phenomenon.
Your continued adherence to that "argument" is as tired as it is ridiculous.
If you choose to explain away the exponential increase of climate change, just in the last 2 decades, as "a naturally occurring phenomenon" then your brain has truly been washed, dried, pressed and hung up in a cedar-lined closet with a few hundred tons of moth balls.
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"You are focusing things that would not bother you much if he was a liberal Democrat." - He was a Democrat and flipped to win. Maybe they took off a bit to much during the surgery?

https://nypost.com/2018/01/03/trumps...ergnet_2893794

His quotes about Vietnam & his bone spur deferments show what a class act he is...feel free to look them up...(New Yorkers did not vote for him because they knew him best.) So we didn't bomb Iran on his last minute whim...nice.
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"You are focusing things that would not bother you much if he was a liberal Democrat." - He was a Democrat and flipped to win. Maybe they took off a bit to much during the surgery?

https://nypost.com/2018/01/03/trumps...ergnet_2893794

His quotes about Vietnam & his bone spur deferments show what a class act he is...feel free to look them up...(New Yorkers did not vote for him because they knew him best.) So we didn't bomb Iran on his last minute whim...nice.
That did not take very long for you to prove me right. I don't care about his bone spurs. It would not be a stretch for me to believe that he did not have to go to Vietnam because his dad was rich. A lot of people did a lot of things to avoid going to the Southeast Asian Olympics. We forgave them. I noticed that you don't seem to care about Bill Clinton dodging the draft...I guess that's because he is still a liberal Democrat. Do you see my point? If Bill used the same excuse that Trump did, you would not be offended.

New York did not vote for Trump because he has an R by his name...It's no more complicated than that. If Hillary had an R by her name they would not vote for her ether.

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Your continued adherence to that "argument" is as tired as it is ridiculous.
If you choose to explain away the exponential increase of climate change, just in the last 2 decades, as "a naturally occurring phenomenon" then your brain has truly been washed, dried, pressed and hung up in a cedar-lined closet with a few hundred tons of moth balls.
I thought I was "blocked" Your loosing your credibility.

You can start to get your credibility back If you post an honest assessment on Bill Clinton's negative attributes. Presumably, you were able to over look some indiscretions and still support the guy with a D by his name.

You don't have to go back very far to understand how North Korea operates. They shoot off some missiles and expect to get paid to stop. This time they stopped, but they did not get paid like every time before. I am not predicting a successful outcome...I just think there's a little room for some optimism.

NATO has been freeloading for decades. I did not use the term "big accomplishment"...you did. I do think it is a significant accomplishment when you consider that all he had to do was ask. The last 6 or 7 presidents didn't even care enough about American's tax dollars to ask.

Here is the leftist slant on what Mexico is doing on their borders. https://www.npr.org/2019/07/13/74000...t-trumps-terms

I think Chicken Little was the first to sound the alarms about climate change.

I don't know what else I can do here. I have posted undisputed data that shows wild temperature swings all throughout earths history...much much more than this .8 degrees in the last 100 years or what ever it is. I have posted articles that state clearly that NASA has changed actual historic temperatures to hide the fact that there has been no/much less warming than predicted. The climate alarmists in the UK got caught in emails to each other discussing how to manipulate data. There has not been one climate prediction come true since the 70's when this garbage started. I look at data that goes back as far as science can take us...climate alarmists go back 100 years or so...and when that data doesn't tell them that the sky is falling, they just change the data...change the name, global warming to climate change.

The primary purpose for a regulation is to raise taxes. Every single regulation comes with a price attached to it. And while we are on the subject of regulations, where in the constitution does it say that un-elected bureaucrats can create laws? Last I checked congress is responsible for writing laws. The EPA has no constitutional authority.

The insurance mandate was unconstitutional, that is why Roberts had to REWRITE THE LAW, so he could vote for it. Its nice to see you sticking up for the big insurance companies. If you mandate that everyone buy insurance, and then you mandate that they cover preexisting conditions, you can no longer call it insurance...they are just a middle man in between you and your doctor artificially inflating health care costs.

The Jerusalem deal was significant because peace can only come from victory. As long as Jerusalem is disputed there can never be peace.

You only get to lose one war. I have said many times that if we had no military, Canada would invade. That is just human nature, to take what is easily taken. Using that logic, weakness invites attack. we have been fighting wars on 2 or 3 fronts for almost a couple decades now. What if real war breaks out with Russia and China? That may not be likely but you have to be prepared for it...so that it doesn't happen. No one will attack if they know that they will lose.

U.S. ranked:

#1 in total energy production
#1 in oil production
#1 in natural gas production
#1 in nuclear power
#1 in geothermal power
#1 in biofuels
#2 in wind power
#2 in solar power
#2 in coal production
#4 in hydropower

Illegals and their "legal"children lean heavily to the Democrat party. Reagan granted Amnesty to 3 million illegals, ever since then we have been told that there are 10 million...20 million...the number keeps changing, but what is not changing is that they keep coming and having anchor babies. If I had to guess, I would say that Illegals are responsible for about 100 million people in this country that are here as a result of Illegal immigration. Without that voter base Democrats could not win.

The only way to drain the swamp is to cut their funding, and he is not doing that...he is filling the swamp with all the cash that they could possibly hope for.

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I thought I was "blocked" Your loosing your credibility.

You can start to get your credibility back If you post an honest assessment on Bill Clinton's negative attributes. Presumably, you were able to over look some indiscretions and still support the guy with a D by his name.
I "blocked" you, mainly because of your ridiculous comments that drag on for days and I was tired of having to scroll through the unsubstantiated claims, the ridiculous posts and your amazing ability to avoid points/answers and deflect the narrative to something else (usually Hillary or Bill Clinton or Obama), just so I could read other's comments and responses.

Credibility? Yours is nonexistent.

You post incoherent rants with "facts" that are manufactured by those who hope to discredit honest people - just like the demagogue you worship, who thinks he is a demigod - the websites you quote/post from are the ones that Trump had over for his little lovefest the other day, ones who are not bound by fact, morals, truth, any sense of journalistic integrity, and are not under any scrutiny by the FCC.

Who does Trump attack? Those who speak the truth about him. Hmmm?

You are either so completely stupid, that you cannot see that you were conned by Trump, or you do know and are so embarrassed that you don't want to admit it.

Either way you're an idiot.

And your spelling proves it.

I looked up "loosing", I couldn't find it.
The closest word I could find was 'loose'......

From Websters:

1 loose

adjective

\ˈlüs\

:*not*tightly*fastened,*attached, or*held:*not*pulled*or*stretched*tight of*clothing*:*not*fitting*close*to*your body*:*not*tight

(Like your mind)

Full*Definition

loos·er;*loos·est

1a*:*not*rigidly*fastened*or*securely attached*loose*planks*in a bridge

b*(1)*:*having*worked*partly*free from*attachments*a*loose*tooth

(2)*:*having*relative*freedom*of*movement

c*:*produced*freely*and*accompanied*by*raising*of*mucusa*loose*cough

d*:*not*tight-fitting*loose clothing

2a*:*free*from*a*state*of*confinement,*restraint, or*obligation*a*lion*loose*in the streets*spend*loose*funds wisely

b*:*not*brought*together*in a*bundle,*container, or*binding

c*archaic*:*disconnected,*detached

(Like your sense of reality)

3a*:*not*dense,*close, or*compact*in*structure*or*arrangement loose*soil

b*:*not*solid*:*watery*loose stools

(Like your brain)

4a*:**lacking*in*restraint*or*power*of*restraint a*loose*tongue

b*:*lacking*moral*restraint*:unchaste

c*:*overactive;*specifically*:*marked by*frequent*voiding*especially*of*watery*stools*loose*bowels


(Like your demagogue)


5a*:*not*tightly*drawn*or*stretched*:slack*a*loose*belt

b*:*being*flexible*or*relaxed stay*loose

6a*:*lacking*in*precision,*exactness, or*care*loose*brushwork loose*usage

b*:*permitting*freedom*of*interpretation*a*loose construction*of the*Constitution

7:*not in the*possession*of*either*of two*competing*teams*a*looseball*a*loose*puck

loose·ly*adverb loose·ness*noun

Examples

Some*of the*shingles*on the*roof*were loose.The*rope*was*tied*in a*loose*knot.The*nails*had*been*pried*loose.

Origin

Middle*English*lous,*from*Old*Norselauss;*akin*to Old*High*German*lōsloose*—*more*at*-less.

First*known*use:*13th*century

Synonyms:*insecure,*lax,*loosened,*relaxed,*slack,*slackened,*unsecured

(Kinda sums it up for your boy, hmmmm?)

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