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Old 12-16-2019
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Please tell me exactly what sensitive materials they received? Bogus story that the rubes continue to parrot despite the fact it holds zero merit.

Trump loves meeting in private with Putin. Talking about what? Who knows? They are such buds they cut their own side deals apparently. In public they just discuss sensitive intelligence about Israel and defend them from our meanie intelligence agencies..
Putin has bought access to the supply chain in our domestic Uranium market...and Hillary sold it dirt cheep. Why are you suddenly a Putin defender? Your loyalties shift with the wind.
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Old 12-17-2019
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IMPEACHMENT NEWS! IMPEACHMENT NEWS. GET YOUR IMPEACHMENT NEWS!

The Chief won't lie to you. The Chief won't steer you wrong. Here's the lowdown on impeachment news, and it only costs 25¢.

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Pakistan's former president sentenced to death for treason

Pervez Musharraf, the former army general who seized power in a military coup in 1999 and led the country for nine years, is currently in Dubai. He faced treason charges for unlawfully suspending the constitution and imposing emergency rule in 2007.
I'm personally opposed to capital punishment because too many mistakes can be (and undoubtedly have been) made. I'll settle for Impeachment and Removal, my friends!

But, what can you do to help? Let me tell you ...

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To find a rally near you, just go to impeach.org, type in your zip code, make yourself a purty sign, and off you go! Standing up for Democracy, rallying against corruption and criminality! That is America. They are actually calling them: "Nobody is Above the Law" events.
But what do you do with your signs when you're done? I have a suggestion fellow patriots and abiders of the Rule of Law.

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Sign, Sign, Everywhere a Sign!

These are some of my signs that I've been putting up around Myrtle Beach, South Carolina:







Take you :30 to stop your car, back up a little bit, and tear down the sign, but Republicans can't be bothered anymore, I guess.

It used to be that they'd be taken down by somebody within a day. Then, they started lasting two or three days. Now, some of these babies stay up for a week or two at a time. Nobody wants to publicly support a racist criminal like Trump.
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Old 12-17-2019
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Facts about Uranium One that are undisputed.

Hillary signed off on the deal

Bill was paid $500,000 for a speech in Moscow and had a meeting with Putin

The New York Times reported that, during the sale, the family foundation of Uranium One's chairman made $2,350,000 in donations to the Clinton Foundation. The donations were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, as they were required to do.

I am happy to hear that We haven't shipped Uranium to Putin, but that was not the crime in question. Trump is not the one hanging around with Putin after work and selling him access to sensitive materials.
I don't see anything about sensitive materials being released to Russia in your post. Just a disproven theory that Hillary personally signed off on the deal and that it was somehow related to a CHARITABLE donation not a campaign contribution that doesn't even fit the timeline.

The whole thing is a huge nothing burger. Not sure why you even brought it up:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesco.../#6113f828526d
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Old 12-17-2019
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Putin has bought access to the supply chain in our domestic Uranium market...and Hillary sold it dirt cheep. Why are you suddenly a Putin defender? Your loyalties shift with the wind.
Sorry but the facts don't support your claim and this was a much different time when relations with Russia were improving. You know before they decided to make President Ding Dong the leader of the free world:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesco.../#6113f828526d
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MAL, Just one question. Do you think it was just that the president not only did not release the original tape but also blocked every single person from the White House to answer a legal subpoena?
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MAL, Just one question. Do you think it was just that the president not only did not release the original tape but also blocked every single person from the White House to answer a legal subpoena?
And another question for Senator Mal: How many times in these thirty-some pages did you claim that Democrats would not vote to impeach? Thirty times? Fifty?
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Old 12-18-2019
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MAL, Just one question. Do you think it was just that the president not only did not release the original tape but also blocked every single person from the White House to answer a legal subpoena?
House Democrats could have taken it to court. Trump was completely within his legal rights to let the court decide who should testify. The Obstruction of Congress charge would lose in any court.
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And another question for Senator Mal: How many times in these thirty-some pages did you claim that Democrats would not vote to impeach? Thirty times? Fifty?
Your right...I did not think Nancy was that stupid. Her only hope now is that the American people forget what happened before next November.

It looks like Mitch is making a huge mistake by planning to dismiss it quickly.

How do you know it was Republicans steeling your signs? Around here Democrats steel Democrat signs so the don't have to pay for them.
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I don't see anything about sensitive materials being released to Russia in your post. Just a disproven theory that Hillary personally signed off on the deal and that it was somehow related to a CHARITABLE donation not a campaign contribution that doesn't even fit the timeline.

The whole thing is a huge nothing burger. Not sure why you even brought it up:



https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesco.../#6113f828526d
It's funny that you would mention a timeline.

Timeline: Uranium Exec. Gave $31.3 Million to Clinton Foundation, Russian Bank Paid $500K to Bill Clinton
By Michael W. Chapman | October 20, 2017


Presented below is a timeline of events involving former President Bill Clinton, uranium mining deals in Kazakhstan, multi-million dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation, and the U.S.-government approved sale of Uranium One to the Russian state-owned Rosatom, a purchase now under investigation by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley (R-Iowa).

Information for this timeline is taken from two articles in The New York Times that were respectively published on Jan. 31, 2008 and April 23, 2015 – After Mining Deal, Financier Donated to Clinton and Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal. (They are designated in the timeline as NYT 1/31/08 and NYT 4/23/15.)

August 2005: Canadian mining executive Frank Giustra directs his newly formed company, UrAsia Energy Ltd., to send an engineering consultant to Kazakhstan to assess several uranium mines. (NYT 1/31/08)


Mining executive and investor Frank Giustra and President
Bill Clinton. Giustra also is a board member
of the Clinton Foundation. (YouTube)
Sept. 6, 2005: Frank Giustra, on his private jet, flies former President Bill Clinton to Kazakhstan, a former Soviet Republic. (NYT 1/31/08)

After landing in the city of Almaty, Giustra and Clinton have dinner with Kazakhstan’s authoritarian president, Nursultan Nazarbayev. During the visit, Giustra reportedly speaks about his mining interests with Nazarbayev. (NYT 1/31/08)

In Almaty, Bill Clinton praises Nazarbayev for “opening up the social and political life of your country,” and he endorses Kazakhstan’s bid to head the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, a view in contrast with the U.S. government’s position. (NYT 1/31/08)

Clinton’s remarks hand “the Kazakh president a propaganda coup” and Kazhakhstan highlights Clinton’s endorsement in news releases. (NYT 4/23/15)

Sept. 8/9, 2005: Guistra’s “fledgling company, UrAsia Energy Ltd., signed a preliminary deal giving it stakes in three uranium mines controlled by the state-run uranium agency KazAtomProm.” (NYT 4/23/15)

KazAtomProm had to approve the deal, according to its then-CEO Moukhtar Dzhakishev and, he added, President Nazarbayev ultimately signed off on the transaction. (NYT 1/31/08)

“The monster deal stunned the mining industry, turning an unknown shell company [UrAsia Energy Ltd.] into one of the world’s largest uranium producers in a transaction ultimately worth tens of millions of dollars to Mr. Giustra, analysts said.” (NYT 1/31/08)

2006: Frank Giustra donates $31.3 million to the Clinton Foundation. (Neither Giustra nor Clinton disclose precisely when the donation was made.) (NYT 1/31/08)

September 2006: Giustra co-produces a gala for Bill Clinton’s 60th birthday, which raises $21 million for the Clinton Foundation. (NYT 1/31/08)


February 2007: Giustra’s company, UrAsia Energy, merges with Vancouver-based Uranium One, a reported $3.5 billion deal. In Uranium One, UrAsia Energy is still controlled by one of its investors, Ian Telfer, a Canadian. (NYT 4/23/15)

February 2007: KazAtomProm CEO Moukhtar Dzhakishev travels to Chappaqua, N.Y. and meets with Bill Clinton in his home, a meeting arranged by Frank Giustra. Clinton and Giustra at first denied to the New York Times that the meeting occurred but when presented with facts about the meeting, “both men acknowledged it.” Giustra also admitted that he arranged the gathering, claiming that the event “escaped my memory until you raised it.” (NYT 1/31/08)

“Mr. Dzhakishev said he had a vivid memory of his Chappaqua visit, and a souvenir to prove it: a photograph of himself with the former president. ‘I hung up the photograph of us and people ask me if I met with Clinton and I say, Yes, I met with Clinton.’ He said, smiling proudly.” (NYT 1/31/08)

2007: Ian Telfer donates no more than $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation. (NYT 4/23/15)

2007: Frank Giustra sells his stake in the Uranium One merger for a reported $45 million. (NYT 4/23/15)


April 2007: In addition to its newly acquired assets in Kazakhstan, Uranium One starts buying uranium mines in Utah, Wyoming, Texas and Utah. (NYT 4/23/15)

May-June 2009: KazAtomProm CEO Moukhtar Dzhakishev is removed from his position and arrested “on charges that he illegally sold uranium deposits to foreign companies, including at least some of those won by Mr. Giustra’s UrAsia and now owned by Uranium One.” (NYT 4/23/15)

June 2009: Rosatom, the Russian Federation state corporation that oversees nuclear energy, seeks to buy into Uranium One. (NYT 4/23/15)

Mid-June 2009: ARMZ, “a wholly owned subsidiary of Rosatom completed a deal for 17 percent of Uranium One.” ARMZ/Rosatom takes steps to obtain larger shares in Uranium One and contacts the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States for review and potential approval. (NYT 4/23/15)

2009: Uranium One’s Ian Telfer, through his family charity the Fernwood Foundation, donates $1 million to the Clinton Foundation, “the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help keep its mines in Kazakhstan.” (NYT 4/23/15)



2010: Telfer, through the Fernwood Foundation, donates $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation, “the year Russians sought majority control” of Uranium One. (NYT 4/23/15)

June 2010: Bill Clinton gives a speech in Moscow for a $500,000 fee, paid for by Renaissance Capital, “a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin,” and whose analysts “talked up Uranium One’s stock,” saying in a July 2010 report “that it was ‘the best play’ in the uranium markets.” (NYT 4/23/15)

October 2010: The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) approves the partial sale of Uranium One to Rosatom, which gives the Russians (and President Vladimir Putin) a 51 percent controlling stake in Uranium One. With this deal, Rosatom controls 20% of U.S. uranium production. Members of CFIUS included, among others, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, and Attorney General Eric Holder. (*Bloomberg 10/18/2017 and NYT 4/23/15)

2011: Telfer, through the Ferwood Foundation, donates $600,000 to the Clinton Foundation. (NYT 4/23/15)



2012: Telfer, through the Ferwood Foundation, donates $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation. (NYT 4/23/15)

2009-2012: Between $1.3 million and $5.6 million in contributions were made to the Clinton Foundation by people “with ties to Uranium One or UrAsia, the company that originally acquired Uranium One’s most valuable asset: the Kazakh mines.” (NYT 4/23/15)
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Old 12-18-2019
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I like to keep our fine Republican Senators apprised of the latest news, so I send them lots of tweets, including this one to the Senator from the Great State of Alaska:


On Impeachment Eve, even more damning evidence came out during hearings in the case involving Lev Parnas. He received a million bucks from a Russian mob-linked fellow by the name of Dmitry Firtash. Parnas turned around and gave $500k to Rudy Colludy.

We all know what Rudy Colludy did, as he gave an interview the day before yesterday in which he admitted to the scheme involving the removal of the Ukrainian Ambassador. And he kept Trump up to date!

Seriously, the Gambinos committed fewer crimes and were smarter about the crimes they committed. Impeach that criminal. Ladies and Gentlemen, rejoice. It is Impeachment Day!
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