Release the Kraken

[oldpioneer]

I’m just sitting here wondering how much a Thomas Jefferson picture ID would go for these days.

[dadudaman4]

Probably the same $2 it's always been worth.

[oldpioneer]

Probably the same $2 it's always been worth.

Oh I would think more than that. I think student present day student IDs cost more, but you know you are right in the sense that $2 can mean a lot to different people....Do you think they had to sit still for hours like their portraits? That would take a long time to paint all the people, well, you know what I mean, the wealthy, white, land owners........

[ChiefIllini1]

Counselor, your line of questioning has been brilliant:

OP busted chops with this: "Oh I would think more than that. I think student present day student IDs cost more, but you know you are right in the sense that $2 can mean a lot to different people....Do you think they had to sit still for hours like their portraits? That would take a long time to paint all the people, well, you know what I mean, the wealthy, white, land owners...."

On the other hand, Racistsaidwhat?

And it starts with requiring every voter to provide photo ID when voting either by mail (requesting an absentee ballot) or in person. Why are Democrats so adamantly opposed to this very simple thing? In this day and age, there is no valid reason that I have been provided.

There's only one reason to require photo ID and that is racism.

Many people in urban areas do not need driver's licenses or identification cards. They take the metro, the El, or a bus. Many of those folks don't even know how to drive. Only Jim Crow knows this and came up with ******** racist voter ID laws. We are talking more than a million people who Republican racists want to disenfranchise for no reason:

• Nearly 500,000 eligible voters do not have access to a vehicle and live more than 10 miles from the nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. Many of them live in rural areas with dwindling public transportation options.
• More than 10 million eligible voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest state ID-issuing office open more than two days a week.
• 1.2 million eligible black voters and 500,000 eligible Hispanic voters live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. People of color are more likely to be disenfranchised by these laws since they are less likely to have photo ID than the general population.
• Many ID-issuing offices maintain limited business hours. For example, the office in Sauk City, Wisconsin is open only on the fifth Wednesday of any month. But only four months in 2012 — February, May, August, and October — have five Wednesdays. In other states — Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas — many part-time ID-issuing offices are in the rural regions with the highest concentrations of people of color and people in poverty.

More than 1 million eligible voters in these states fall below the federal poverty line and live more than 10 miles from their nearest ID-issuing office open more than two days a week. These voters may be particularly affected by the significant costs of the documentation required to obtain a photo ID. Birth certificates can cost between $8 and $25. Marriage licenses, required for married women whose birth certificates include a maiden name, can cost between $8 and $20. By comparison, the notorious poll tax — outlawed during the civil rights era — cost $10.64 in current dollars.

The result is plain: Voter ID laws will make it harder for hundreds of thousands of poor Americans to vote. They place a serious burden on a core constitutional right that should be universally available to every American citizen.

You can pretend you're not a racist, but, yeah, you're a racist.

[oldpioneer]

I will pay five dollars for the Thomas Jefferson original ID. Shoot me your Venmo account. I’ll also pay four dollars for any of the originals that signed the declaration of independence. In all seriousness, chief thanks for clearing that up. The one thing these last four years have shown me is that some people look At life through only their own eyes and are oblivious to what other people are going through.

[dadudaman4]

Chief, you're the bigoted prick in this room. By the way, aren't we all racist according to many of the liberal folks you helped to elect and who are filling our schools with "critical race theory"? In this day and age, if you don't have some form of official ID, with all the available resources at your disposal, and after you have been told repeatedly over a number of years that you will need some form of picture ID to vote, then you probably aren't that interested in voting.

As an example, to collect Medicaid you need the following identification:

• Driver's license with photograph
• Passport issued with limitations
• School identification card with photograph
• U.S. military card or draft record
• Military dependent's identification card
• Federal, state, or local identification card with same information as driver's license
• Native American Tribal document
• U.S. Coast Guard Merchant Mariner card

To enroll in Medicare you will need:

• Your birth certificate or other proof of birth
• Proof of United States citizenship or legal residency, such as a passport
• Driver's license

So, enough of your bullshit about how awful, racist and horrible voter ID laws are. It's a minimal, but reasonable, burden to place on Americans to ensure a safe election.

[MAL]

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: The Windham, New Hampshire 2020 Election Audit Was Over Before It Started – Two of Three Auditors Have Conflicts with Pelosi and Schumer

By Joe Hoft
Published May 26, 2021 at 8:45pm

The teamwork and activism of NH patriots, who fought hard to get the NH audit off the ground, have been actively subverted and sabotaged without their knowledge.


We have shocking evidence related to the actors running the audit.




It appears very likely that the course of this audit has been quietly steered by top Democratic leadership in the U.S. Congress, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D) and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D), through the auditors themselves. Both Philip Stark, Ph.D. and Barbara Simons, Ph.D., the board chair of Verified Voting and also a member of George Soros’ elite Democracy Alliance Board, are current appointees to the corrupt and powerful U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC).


Stark was appointed by Speaker Pelosi in 2016 and Simons was appointed by former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D) in 2008 and was re-affirmed by then-Senate Minority now Majority Leader Schumer.

Two of the three NH election auditors, therefore, Stark and Mark Lindeman, Ph.D., and co-director at Verified Voting, have direct ties and loyalty to the powerful American Democrat-progressive machine, at the very highest levels.


That deep state Democratic machine has a vested, hardcore political interest in maintaining the status quo of all 2020 state elections, including New Hampshire’s.

Finally, Harry Hursti, Ph.D., has obscured professional relationships with the other two auditors, to which he does have strong professional ties. Why?

This audit team, being driven by secretive, Democrat-socialist political interests, is anything but fair, impartial, and nonpartisan. Its agenda is not at all that of the NH patriots who fought for election honesty, transparency, and integrity.

Some history is critical. NH’s Diebold AccuVote OS voting machines are nationally infamous for being hackable and it was Harri Hursti, Ph.D., himself, as the invited computer scientist “hacker” who, back in December 2005, proved to the country that these Diebold memory cards could be easily hacked and manipulated to secretly change vote counts. He also demonstrated that his hacks were absolutely undetectable.

All Hursti did was take a Diebold, credit card-sized memory card, quickly pre-program it using an inexpensive, readily available agricultural scanning device, and stick it in the Diebold optical scanner. No keys or passwords were needed. His hack happened fast. This staged election in which the outcome was known by all, ended up with Hursti’s hacked memory card secretly deciding the “election,” and whose count reflected Hursti’s choice.


Hursti also affirmed that there were additional ways these Diebold memory cards and machines could be quickly hacked, he had simply demo’ed one of them.

Hursti figured out how to hack into the memory card … He learned how to hide votes, make losers out of winners and leave no trace, [Bev Harris] said.

This stunning moment in American history – after Diebold had repeatedly and aggressively maintained that its machines and memory cards were totally secure and trustworthy – was created and witnessed by, among others, election integrity advocate extraordinaire Bev Harris of the very ethical 501(c)(3) Black Box Voting (BBV), the ethical and patriotic Ion Sancho, Leon County, Florida Supervisor of Elections, and Susan Pynchon of the Florida Fair Elections Coalition.

Here are Bev Harris’ and Susan Pynchon’s firsthand accounts of this moment.


This was such a stunning and groundbreaking moment in American election integrity history that it came to be referred to as the Hursti Hack. Harris memorialized it by co-producing a riveting 2006 documentary called Hacking Democracy.

You can watch a clip from that documentary, the actual Hursti Hack, right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t75xvZ3osFg



Diebold Election Systems, for those who don’t know your election machine history, acquired Global Election Systems in 2002 and, strategically, changed its name in 2007 to Premier Election Solutions, which was eventually partially purchased, in 2010, by a company called Dominion Voting Systems. Dominion is, of course, the very same company whose machines are being forensically audited in Maricopa County, Arizona, and which were used, statewide, by Georgia in the 2020 election.



According to Harris, “Following the Florida demonstration, New Hampshire chose to purchase the voting machine make and model that Hursti had proven to be tamperable.”

Hursti’s own testimony about NH’s Diebold AccuVote OS machines and memory cards, given at NH House Election Law Committee hearings on September 19, 2007, confirmed his professional opinion that these machines and memory cards are untrustworthy:

If you are believing on poll tape that doesn’t mean a thing because I can control the whole thing over whatever logic and accuracy that you perform just before the election. Because I have control. I can compare the date, the time. And so in order to be producing fraudulent tape, I will be producing fraudulent tape only on Tuesday evening. And I don’t worry about what ballots go through.

Therefore, back in 2007, the Diebold machines and memory cards that Hursti boasted about being able to secretly control, are the same ones Lindeman, Hursti, and Stark were all supposed to audit.



The cold, hard facts are that an audit of these machines and especially their memory cards is an entirely useless activity, and Hursti showed why 16 years ago. Yet why are Lindeman (who is not even a computer scientist, he has a Ph.D. in political science) and especially Hursti, the two now sans Stark, claiming they will need “90 minutes to read” each card?

Hursti agreeing to “audit” these Diebold memory cards, given his national exposure of their egregious built-in flaws, is indefensible, suspicious and you now have to wonder, just what is his real agenda? Also, why, did Verified Voting appear to disappear evidence of Hursti’s seat upon its advisory board?

VV’s current webpage shows he is not a member. However, the Internet Archive tells a very different story. As of April 29, Hursti is shown as being a member. On May 3, the NH AG and SoS hired him to be a member of their audit team. Two days later, on May 5, any evidence of Hursti’s participation as an advisor with Verified Voting had been deleted.

Philip Stark, whom Hursti and Lindeman co-selected as the third auditor, either employed Philip Stark, contracted with him, or has had some sort of close professional relationship with him since mid-2018. Hursti co-founded Nordic Innovation Labs, which conducts Security Assessment & Vulnerability Consulting. On the business’s About Us page, Stark is one of three Nordic Network team members. Sometime after February 26, 2021, Stark’s name and bio were removed from that webpage.



The three of these auditors, rather than being a professional, independently-functioning group of auditors – an impression which everyone involved tried hard to create – are actually not that at all.

As far as these computer scientists go, it certainly does appear that yet another entity, another profession that works with, and has influence upon our American election infrastructure has been infiltrated and compromised.
This certainly aligns directly with the goals of top progressive Democrat leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, who appointed Dr. Philip Stark and Dr. Barbara Simons to positions of great power and influence upon the U.S. EAC, and who are now observing the fruits of their labor in New Hampshire.

[MAL]

Oh I would think more than that. I think student present day student IDs cost more, but you know you are right in the sense that $2 can mean a lot to different people....Do you think they had to sit still for hours like their portraits? That would take a long time to paint all the people, well, you know what I mean, the wealthy, white, land owners........

Did you know that the first American slave owner was black?

https://unrealfacts.com/the-first-am...ner-was-black/

I think it is racist to insinuate that blacks are too dumb the get an ID. A number of years back Texas proposed a law making voter ID's free...offered free rides to the polls, and eliminated every objection the Democrats had to voter ID and the Democrats still objected. Democrats just want to cheat. Voter ID won't solve the problem...China is printing and shipping working state ID's into the US. A batch of 20.000 ID's was intercepted at Ohare Airport if I remember correctly. These ID's will pass scrutiny during a traffic stop.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...rport-in-2020/

[MAL]

Counselor, your line of questioning has been brilliant:



[SIZE=16px]On the other hand, Racistsaidwhat?



There's only one reason to require photo ID and that is racism.

Many people in urban areas do not need driver's licenses or identification cards. They take the metro, the El, or a bus. Many of those folks don't even know how to drive. Only Jim Crow knows this and came up with ******** racist voter ID laws. We are talking more than a million people who Republican racists want to disenfranchise for no reason:



You can pretend you're not a racist, but, yeah, you're a racist.

If you ever go to the Democrat National Convention...you will need a picture ID...what a bunch of racists...they don't want black people at their convention. Jim Crow laws were all Democrat enacted and enforced...Slavery was Democrats...Democrats appose the civil rights act of 1964...the KKK was all Democrats. Planned Parenthood was started to kill black babies. The entire existence of your party was built on racism, and now you think blacks are too stupid to get an ID.

[MAL]

Biden is so well liked by the military that they voted for him 950 to 0...and kept their ballots in sequential order.

There’s Something VERY DISTURBING About Biden’s Audit Count!


Well, this is interesting and why wouldn’t it be?

Everything since the election was stolen from President Trump last November has been, and even before that. Americans that voted against Trump have been vocal since then wanting to know the truth about the election while Democrats do everything to sweep it under the rug and hide the truth. Now, there have been audits occurring across the country and the initial findings prove what we all have suspected.

One of the most shocking findings is what has been revealed in the Georgia audit where 950 military ballots audited and every single vote cast went to Biden.
There is no way that 950 votes went to Joe Biden!






The mainstream media is of course not covering this explosive story and is doing everything they can to keep this buried. Thankfully, there are news outlets reporting on it and even saying that there is proof of fraudulent voting in the Peach State.

The Independent Sentinel reports:

There appears to have been fraudulent voting in Georgia in 2020.

John Fredericks, the host of Outside the Beltway, reports on this clip that as many as 30,000 fake ballots were counted in 2020 in Georgia. That is according to six witnesses — who submitted sworn affidavits. There is also a question of some counted twice. The ballots in question went for Biden and the two Democrat senators by 97%.

Another example Mr. Fredericks gave was of 950 military ballots that went 100% to Biden. That’s impossible for military ballots. Not only that, they were in sequential order. Every ballot that came in the mail was in exact order?

If a judge finds they are fraudulent, Republicans are ready to begin the process of de-certifying.









One has to wonder, out of the 950 ballots that were audited how is it even statistically probable that NOT one vote went to the Commander in Chief of the United States military?

It is well known that President Trump is still one of the most respected presidents this country has ever had when it comes to our military.

This makes it all the more shocking that he went 0 for 950 in this sample set of ballots.

[Fighting Scot]

According to a May 4 analysis from the Washington Post, there have 16 incidents in which an individual has faced criminal charges stemming from his or her attempt to vote illegally in the 2020 election. That’s out of about 159 million votes cast for president. My calculator goes screwy when I try to figure a percentage, but 2020 voter fraud = something like 0.000000106 percent. For all the hair-on-fire reporting of right-wing media on voter fraud, the actual number is 16 people casting 16 individual fraudulent votes in the entire United States of America in the 2020 election. And some of those 16 people voted for Trump, like the fellow in Media, Pennsylvania, who allegedly admitted to casting a ballot on behalf of his dead mother.

Republicans, by definition, hate mandates, regulations, and requirements imposed by government. Does it sound like the Republican way to mandate an ID at the polls to solve a crime that had a 0.000000106 percent occurrence rate? If you really believe in liberty and getting the government off of people’s backs, you’ll support letting them vote in the most unencumbered way possible—especially since voter crime is of microscopic proportions—0 followed by six more zeros.

The January 6 Republicans should stop playing these games and state their ambition directly: The country belongs to them and them alone, and they are permanently marginalizing anyone who does not share their political beliefs.

[oldpioneer]

MAL, Abraham Lincoln was considered as far left as you could go and extremely radical. He was the AOC of the time. Democrat and Republican are just names, people and ideas change all the times. There was once A party called Democratic-Republicans. But anyhow I just wanted to tell you actually watching that Mike Lindel I actually think he is a swell guy. I would actually go fishing with him even with all of his election BS. When I read he was an allowed into the Republican governors convention I actually felt sorry for him. Poor guy, he just fell into the wrong crowd and traveled all that way just to be turned away at the door. And I’m not even being sarcastic I actually felt bad and I really do believe he is a nice guy.

[MAL]

According to a May 4 analysis from the Washington Post, there have 16 incidents in which an individual has faced criminal charges stemming from his or her attempt to vote illegally in the 2020 election. That’s out of about 159 million votes cast for president. My calculator goes screwy when I try to figure a percentage, but 2020 voter fraud = something like 0.000000106 percent. For all the hair-on-fire reporting of right-wing media on voter fraud, the actual number is 16 people casting 16 individual fraudulent votes in the entire United States of America in the 2020 election. And some of those 16 people voted for Trump, like the fellow in Media, Pennsylvania, who allegedly admitted to casting a ballot on behalf of his dead mother.

Republicans, by definition, hate mandates, regulations, and requirements imposed by government. Does it sound like the Republican way to mandate an ID at the polls to solve a crime that had a 0.000000106 percent occurrence rate? If you really believe in liberty and getting the government off of people’s backs, you’ll support letting them vote in the most unencumbered way possible—especially since voter crime is of microscopic proportions—0 followed by six more zeros.

The January 6 Republicans should stop playing these games and state their ambition directly: The country belongs to them and them alone, and they are permanently marginalizing anyone who does not share their political beliefs.

I thought you were smart enough to know when you were being lied to.

This woman has been arrested for collecting 5000 votes for Democrats. She was working for a Republican. A justice of the piece and 2 other people were arrested with her.
https://freedomwire.com/project-veri...s-voter-fraud/

These men were arrested for trying to register 8000 dead and homeless people.
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ceased-persons

The problem in Arizona is that the voters don't exist...you can't arrest 100,000 ghosts.

In New Hampshire they folded the ballots over a Democrats oval and it counted as a vote, so the ballot was counted as an over vote if it was cast for a Republican and did not count for either one of them.

In Georgia the Military cast 950 consecutive votes for Biden and returned the ballots back in sequential order...0 for Trump...This was the evidence that convinced a judge to audit Fulton county.

I could do this all day every day...the evidence is overwhelming, but this type of political speech has been banned on all major social/media. Why don't they want you to hear what I have to say?

[MAL]

MAL, Abraham Lincoln was considered as far left as you could go and extremely radical. He was the AOC of the time. Democrat and Republican are just names, people and ideas change all the times. There was once A party called Democratic-Republicans. But anyhow I just wanted to tell you actually watching that Mike Lindel I actually think he is a swell guy. I would actually go fishing with him even with all of his election BS. When I read he was an allowed into the Republican governors convention I actually felt sorry for him. Poor guy, he just fell into the wrong crowd and traveled all that way just to be turned away at the door. And I’m not even being sarcastic I actually felt bad and I really do believe he is a nice guy.

That's a new one, since when is blowing away a bunch of Democrats a liberal idea? Radical...I can agree with that. Progressive is a word that has been bastardized by the left...he may have been considered a progressive...I don't know about that, but Progressive doesn't mean the same thing as it used to.

The Democrat party would show their true colors if minorities started voting for Republicans. Democrats have the minority community enslaved to the system...for now...

[MAL]

Wisconsin Nov. 3 Election Will Be Investigated by Retired Officers: Assembly Speaker


BY JACK PHILLIPS

May 27, 2021 Updated: May 28, 2021

Wisconsin state Assembly Speaker Robin Vos says he’s hiring retired police officers to probe aspects of the 2020 presidential election, joining efforts in Republican-led states to look into the contest.

Vos, a Republican, told local news outlets that he will hire three retired officers to work with an Assembly committee that has investigatory powers to review the election. Vos said there were thousands of complaints made after the Nov. 3 contest in Wisconsin—which was narrowly taken by Biden—that need to be investigated.

“We need to have a fact basis to continue to show the public in Wisconsin that, number one, we continue to take these irregularities seriously, and that at the end of the day, the laws that we proposed are based on facts in addition to anecdotes,” Vos told the Wisconsin State Journal, adding that he believes Biden won the election but pointed to “irregularities” in how it was carried out.

In the interview, Vos singled out how the Center for Tech and Civic Life, which is mostly funded by Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, got involved in several cities. Wisconsin’s five largest cities received some $6.3 million from the group, which also provided funding to about 200 municipalities across the state, the Journal Sentinel reported.

The retired officers and committee will spend three months reviewing all the tips that were received and will focus more time on the most credible ones, Vos told the newspaper.

“Is there a whole lot of smoke or is there actual fire? We just don’t know yet,” he said. “A sizable chunk of people believe the election was illegitimate. And democracy cannot flourish if both sides don’t believe in the end both sides had a fair shot.”

The move comes as auditors who were approved by the Arizona GOP-led Senate are reviewing more than 2 million ballots in Maricopa County, and amid other similar efforts across the United States. Last week, a judge in Georgia ruled to unseal absentee ballots that were cast in Fulton County during the 2020 election for a review.

Vos noted the controversy surrounding the Maricopa audit and said he wanted to prevent a similar situation from unfolding in Wisconsin. That’s why, he said, he hired former law enforcement officials.

“My hope is that they come back and they build the case to show Gov. [Tony] Evers and the Democrats who are in the ‘Casablanca’ mode—’Nothing to see here,’ ‘everything’s fine,’ ‘they just want to suppress the vote.’ No. These are professional investigators,” Vos told the Sentinel.

Since the election is over, Vos said there’s no way to overturn the results in favor of former President Donald Trump.

“The election’s already over,” he said. “My job is to be frustrated with the result, which I am, especially with what’s going on in Washington, D.C. … My job is to say where are the laws being followed, where are they not? If they’re not being followed, how can I fix it?”

Ann Jacobs, a Democrat who heads the Wisconsin Elections Commission, told the paper she’s concerned about Vos’s investigation.

“I think it’s unfortunate that the Legislature is using its resources to investigate what has already been thoroughly investigated, and it is my hope that instead they could work toward expanding opportunities and ease of voting for Wisconsin voters,” she said.

The Elections Commission didn’t immediately respond to a request by The Epoch Times for comment.