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  • ChiefIllini1
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    Originally posted by will-I-am View Post
    Doesn’t matter what analogy you’re trying to make. Comparing imar to sadulaev in anyway is laughable.

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  • will-I-am
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    Originally posted by ChiefIllini1 View Post
    I find arguments about picayune matters to be tiring, and in a show of respect to the board, I will clearly indicate the trivial argument by putting it into a quote. For those also tired of the silly, you may skip the next quote, which is a lesson in analogies.



    13. One thing that I failed to note in my posts above, or at least emphasize enough, is that IMAR changed up his style for these matches. I can't remember the exact number, but I think he threw in maybe three or four underhooks combined during all three matches.

    Instead, he worked mainly from a collar tie. I did say earlier that IMAR is learning. But, it's even more than that. It shows that IMAR is smart, flexible, and can gameplan against specific wrestlers. That's a great combination to have!

    There was evidence of this throughout the series of matches, and it was not just related to the underhooks. For example, IMAR also decided that the best way to deal with Burroughs' duck-walk-jump-at-you-push-double-leg attack was to meet him low and with his head.

    That was the single biggest advantage that Burroughs had in their first Final X set of matches. It was what I was worried about more than anything else. IMAR figured out a way to stop it (most of the time). I'm sure the coaches deserve credit as well, but it was IMAR who adapted.

    14. Cool tweet:

    Doesn’t matter what analogy you’re trying to make. Comparing imar to sadulaev in anyway is laughable.

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  • ChiefIllini1
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    Originally posted by opinionated View Post
    19.2K views of an IMAR match? Sounds a lot like Kirk Cousins telling his team that the Vikings are the reason why their game vs. the Bears got flexed to the prime time game last year.
    Beg to differ. Here's an analogy for you, courtesy of the New York Times:




    An unbeatable champ winning is a non-story. An unbeatable champ losing or being taken to his limits is a big story. To put it into some perspective, Burroughs' record against Kyle Dake is 7-1; Burroughs' record against David Taylor is 4-0. We know what those two accomplished after that.

    GO IRTC/IMAR!!!

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  • opinionated
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    Originally posted by ChiefIllini1 View Post

    14. Cool tweet:

    19.2K views of an IMAR match? Sounds a lot like Kirk Cousins telling his team that the Vikings are the reason why their game vs. the Bears got flexed to the prime time game last year.

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  • ChiefIllini1
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    Originally posted by will-I-am View Post
    Mini Sads, get real. Only difference is the amount of world/Olympic titles, minor details.
    I find arguments about picayune matters to be tiring, and in a show of respect to the board, I will clearly indicate the trivial argument by putting it into a quote. For those also tired of the silly, you may skip the next quote, which is a lesson in analogies.

    THE ANALOGY

    Most writers use analogies to offer quick comparisons between objects or people, providing a shortcut to understand a point the author is trying to make. Some readers--the very dumb ones--fail to understand that most analogies are not all-encompassing comparisons.

    For example, a normal person would understand that, "IMAR has the heart of a Lion," doesn't mean that IMAR underwent transplant surgery and had his own heart replaced with that of a lion. Or, that for Christmas one year, he opened a package and found the heart of a lion inside of it.

    In this particular case, I was referring to appearances. Like Sadulaev and Yazdani (at 86kg), IMAR is a heavily-muscled, stocky man with a large chest and powerful legs. He is also skilled at wrestling. Let's test your new understanding of analogies!

    Your test: "That was a Tom Brands brain fart" likely means:

    (a) Tom Brands' brain actually and literally farted; or,
    (b) Tom Brands probably did something stupid again.

    If you selected "b" above, Congratulations! You've just completed the Chief's Analogy Course. This is worth 2 semester credits at Iowa Community College.
    13. One thing that I failed to note in my posts above, or at least emphasize enough, is that IMAR changed up his style for these matches. I can't remember the exact number, but I think he threw in maybe three or four underhooks combined during all three matches.

    Instead, he worked mainly from a collar tie. I did say earlier that IMAR is learning. But, it's even more than that. It shows that IMAR is smart, flexible, and can gameplan against specific wrestlers. That's a great combination to have!

    There was evidence of this throughout the series of matches, and it was not just related to the underhooks. For example, IMAR also decided that the best way to deal with Burroughs' duck-walk-jump-at-you-push-double-leg attack was to meet him low and with his head.

    That was the single biggest advantage that Burroughs had in their first Final X set of matches. It was what I was worried about more than anything else. IMAR figured out a way to stop it (most of the time). I'm sure the coaches deserve credit as well, but it was IMAR who adapted.

    14. Cool tweet:

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  • will-I-am
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    Originally posted by ChiefIllini1 View Post
    Now that I've had a chance to go through the matches with slo-mo and look at the quick adjustments and re-adjustments, I have to say that IMAR and his coaching staff deserve a lot of credit.

    An immense amount of credit.

    Whereas last year, IMAR fought hard, he still seemed a little glad to be there. At this Final X, he tried to dominate. In his post-match interview, Burroughs said he was not going to wrestle any simulation matches again with IMAR. That says something right there. Some observations:

    1. IMAR used the same attack that Burroughs has used over the years. By this, I mean the double leg attack that keeps pressing forward with quick duck walks and steps, pushes and jumps. IMAR is learning. He did it as well as the old master himself. This is an attack that IMAR will be able to use against anybody. I hope he remembers to keep that in his pocket when he's down a point or two in future matches.

    2. IMAR started off the first match in the Franklin Gomez tailback stance, but he was much more aggressive than Gomez.

    3. The weight issue is going to be an issue for the rest of Jordan Burroughs' competitive life. These are the new weigh-in rules, you better get used to them. (Also, I can't help but think that if a Nebraskan was weighing meth with the upstairs scale, he'd be accurate down to the micro-milligram. But that's just me being honest). On another note, Burroughs will likely never have a "home crowd" advantage again.

    4. IMAR used the Roman Knuckle locks not to piss off Burroughs, but to defend. Brilliant!

    5. In his post-match interview, Burroughs said that IMAR came within 6 minutes of beating him. I beg to differ. IMAR came within 9 seconds of winning. (I agree that Burroughs would've wrestled that second match differently, but if we are going to do hypotheticals....).

    6. IMAR met Burroughs with his head and biceps and shoulder when Burroughs was trying to score to take the lead with short time. You know the Burroughs drive-to-push-you-off-the-mat thing. It was very close to working. Also, IMAR circled in.

    7. IMAR is a mini-Sads or at least a mini-Yazdani. I think this guy is going to win a world championship if he stays injury free.

    8. Will these fellows please wrestle again tomorrow?

    9. The squeaky guy from Flo used to be wrong all the time, but he's now right most of the time. Winter weather advisory for Hell.



    I don't know IMAR; never shook his hand, but damn, I'm proud of him and excited for his future! Is that wrong? I don't think so!

    To be continued....

    GO IMAR/IRTC!!!
    Mini Sads, get real. Only difference is the amount of world/Olympic titles, minor details.

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  • will-I-am
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    Originally posted by ChiefIllini1 View Post
    10. IMAR's superduck in the second period of the second match was very fast, beautiful technique …


    11. … And he moved right into a brutal leglace. Watching Coach Poeta cheering after the points were awarded was bonus.


    12. I'm probably the littlest donor that the ILLINOIS REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER has. I'm po. But I had to pony up a few bucks for this. You can too, here. This will buy Zane or Jesse or Max or Ellis or Isaiah (but not all of them) one steak dinner at the Outback, but only an 8oz. steak. So, they need your help!

    GO IRTC/IMAR!!!
    Looks more like an elbow post. But you’re the expert!

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  • dadudaman4
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    Originally posted by ChiefIllini1 View Post
    Now that I've had a chance to go through the matches with slo-mo and look at the quick adjustments and re-adjustments, I have to say that IMAR and his coaching staff deserve a lot of credit.

    An immense amount of credit.

    Whereas last year, IMAR fought hard, he still seemed a little glad to be there. At this Final X, he tried to dominate. In his post-match interview, Burroughs said he was not going to wrestle any simulation matches again with IMAR. That says something right there. Some observations:

    1. IMAR used the same attack that Burroughs has used over the years. By this, I mean the double leg attack that keeps pressing forward with quick duck walks and steps, pushes and jumps. IMAR is learning. He did it as well as the old master himself. This is an attack that IMAR will be able to use against anybody. I hope he remembers to keep that in his pocket when he's down a point or two in future matches.

    2. IMAR started off the first match in the Franklin Gomez tailback stance, but he was much more aggressive than Gomez.

    3. The weight issue is going to be an issue for the rest of Jordan Burroughs' competitive life. These are the new weigh-in rules, you better get used to them. (Also, I can't help but think that if a Nebraskan was weighing meth with the upstairs scale, he'd be accurate down to the micro-milligram. But that's just me being honest). On another note, Burroughs will likely never have a "home crowd" advantage again.

    4. IMAR used the Roman Knuckle locks not to piss off Burroughs, but to defend. Brilliant!

    5. In his post-match interview, Burroughs said that IMAR came within 6 minutes of beating him. I beg to differ. IMAR came within 9 seconds of winning. (I agree that Burroughs would've wrestled that second match differently, but if we are going to do hypotheticals....).

    6. IMAR met Burroughs with his head and biceps and shoulder when Burroughs was trying to score to take the lead with short time. You know the Burroughs drive-to-push-you-off-the-mat thing. It was very close to working. Also, IMAR circled in.

    7. IMAR is a mini-Sads or at least a mini-Yazdani. I think this guy is going to win a world championship if he stays injury free.

    8. Will these fellows please wrestle again tomorrow?

    9. The squeaky guy from Flo used to be wrong all the time, but he's now right most of the time. Winter weather advisory for Hell.



    I don't know IMAR; never shook his hand, but damn, I'm proud of him and excited for his future! Is that wrong? I don't think so!

    To be continued....

    GO IMAR/IRTC!!!
    I-mar can hold his head high after these 3 matches with one of the greatest freestyle wrestlers the USA has produced. He fought Burroughs toe to toe and looked like he belonged on that stage. He'll be much better next year with more freestyle experience whereas Burroughs is already about as good as he is going to get.

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  • ChiefIllini1
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    10. IMAR's superduck in the second period of the second match was very fast, beautiful technique …


    11. … And he moved right into a brutal leglace. Watching Coach Poeta cheering after the points were awarded was bonus.


    12. I'm probably the littlest donor that the ILLINOIS REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER has. I'm po. But I had to pony up a few bucks for this. You can too, here. This will buy Zane or Jesse or Max or Ellis or Isaiah (but not all of them) one steak dinner at the Outback, but only an 8oz. steak. So, they need your help!

    GO IRTC/IMAR!!!

    Leave a comment:


  • ChiefIllini1
    replied
    Now that I've had a chance to go through the matches with slo-mo and look at the quick adjustments and re-adjustments, I have to say that IMAR and his coaching staff deserve a lot of credit.

    An immense amount of credit.

    Whereas last year, IMAR fought hard, he still seemed a little glad to be there. At this Final X, he tried to dominate. In his post-match interview, Burroughs said he was not going to wrestle any simulation matches again with IMAR. That says something right there. Some observations:

    1. IMAR used the same attack that Burroughs has used over the years. By this, I mean the double leg attack that keeps pressing forward with quick duck walks and steps, pushes and jumps. IMAR is learning. He did it as well as the old master himself. This is an attack that IMAR will be able to use against anybody. I hope he remembers to keep that in his pocket when he's down a point or two in future matches.

    2. IMAR started off the first match in the Franklin Gomez tailback stance, but he was much more aggressive than Gomez.

    3. The weight issue is going to be an issue for the rest of Jordan Burroughs' competitive life. These are the new weigh-in rules, you better get used to them. (Also, I can't help but think that if a Nebraskan was weighing meth with the upstairs scale, he'd be accurate down to the micro-milligram. But that's just me being honest). On another note, Burroughs will likely never have a "home crowd" advantage again.

    4. IMAR used the Roman Knuckle locks not to piss off Burroughs, but to defend. Brilliant!

    5. In his post-match interview, Burroughs said that IMAR came within 6 minutes of beating him. I beg to differ. IMAR came within 9 seconds of winning. (I agree that Burroughs would've wrestled that second match differently, but if we are going to do hypotheticals....).

    6. IMAR met Burroughs with his head and biceps and shoulder when Burroughs was trying to score to take the lead with short time. You know the Burroughs drive-to-push-you-off-the-mat thing. It was very close to working. Also, IMAR circled in.

    7. IMAR is a mini-Sads or at least a mini-Yazdani. I think this guy is going to win a world championship if he stays injury free.

    8. Will these fellows please wrestle again tomorrow?

    9. The squeaky guy from Flo used to be wrong all the time, but he's now right most of the time. Winter weather advisory for Hell.



    I don't know IMAR; never shook his hand, but damn, I'm proud of him and excited for his future! Is that wrong? I don't think so!

    To be continued....

    GO IMAR/IRTC!!!

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  • will-I-am
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    Originally posted by GrossNoises View Post
    IMar should wrestle for Mexico. He is World medalist caliber right now. America is just too deep. As a fellow person of Mexican heritage I know the country would support him far more than any American would support their team members.
    It’s not as easy as it seems. I know some that have tried

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  • GrossNoises
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    IMar should wrestle for Mexico. He is World medalist caliber right now. America is just too deep. As a fellow person of Mexican heritage I know the country would support him far more than any American would support their team members.

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  • will-I-am
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    Originally posted by Blonjuan44 View Post
    So what happened? Where did it come up short? Who was the most impressive out of all the participants? Who is most likely to win Gold at the Worlds - Kyle Snyder? (And is he undersized for Worlds? - Is there a weight limit?)
    Ya the weight limit is 97kg!

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  • Blonjuan44
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    Originally posted by ChiefIllini1 View Post
    PREDICTING THE FUTURE


    In my mind and barring injury, Burroughs is 50/50 to win gold in the world championships. He's felt Sidakov and knows he'll have to score early against him. On the other hand, Sidakov now knows to expect the Burroughs reattack. I just think he'll be too slow and goofy-footed to stop them. I also believe that Burroughs is a lock to medal (again barring injury).

    Here's why: He's scheduled to wrestle at the Pan Am Games and Yasar Dogu, which are both ranking tournaments. That will keep him on the opposite side of the bracket from Sidakov and maybe even Chamizo.(Although I think he's got Chamizo figured out now).

    That means he'll get a bye to the final round showdown for the American Olympic spot next year. If IMAR improves half as much as he did this year, that will be a battle for the ages.

    GO IMAR!!!
    So what happened? Where did it come up short? Who was the most impressive out of all the participants? Who is most likely to win Gold at the Worlds - Kyle Snyder? (And is he undersized for Worlds? - Is there a weight limit?)

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  • ChiefIllini1
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    PREDICTING THE FUTURE


    In my mind and barring injury, Burroughs is 50/50 to win gold in the world championships. He's felt Sidakov and knows he'll have to score early against him. On the other hand, Sidakov now knows to expect the Burroughs reattack. I just think he'll be too slow and goofy-footed to stop them. I also believe that Burroughs is a lock to medal (again barring injury).

    Here's why: He's scheduled to wrestle at the Pan Am Games and Yasar Dogu, which are both ranking tournaments. That will keep him on the opposite side of the bracket from Sidakov and maybe even Chamizo.(Although I think he's got Chamizo figured out now).

    That means he'll get a bye to the final round showdown for the American Olympic spot next year. If IMAR improves half as much as he did this year, that will be a battle for the ages.

    GO IMAR!!!

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