Most dominate wrestler in the state?

[normster]

Whitford....and Marsden right in the love seat next to him! Two totally different styles, but both unbelievably dominant.

[normster]

Whitford....and Marsden right in the love seat next to him! Two totally different styles, but both unbelievably dominant.

And another thing. Even as dominant as he is, Marsden wins with as much class as anyone out there.

[lifetimewrestler]

When we talk about the most dominant wrestler this year it goes against the idea of being the most dominant if u lost this year. Sorry big ben but your still incredible

[tilt]

biases and most dominant

I think when Twist hears the word bias he goes into overdrive defensive mode for some reason?LOL

He and I got into a two day debate a few years back when I suggested he was biased toward MC wrestling with respect to their rankings.

I do think the original poster was not completely clear if he was just looking for most dominant at the state meet this past weekend. And therefore Twist had every right to include Akui on his list.

I hate to admit it again but I kind of like McBlns thinking on this subject.

[mckbln]

"I hate to admit it again but I kind of like McBlns thinking on this subject."


Now that had to be painful to post!!!!!

[Big Mat]

Mr. Twister

I like all of the wrestlers. It's the adults that I have to decide if I like or not.

You know I love you Mr. Twister, so don't worry about any bias with me!!!

[mckbln]

You know I love you Mr. Twister, so don't worry about any bias with me!!!

OMG...I am going to throw-up!!! What a suck-up statement to the moderator!!!!!!


LOL....

[old119]

what about

No, but when you say "most dominant" I think it implies somebody who was undefeated and clobbered most of his competition. At 47-0 and I don't know how many falls, I just can't think of another wrestler in the state this year, at ANY class that crushed his opposition like Marsden.
When I think back, John Starzyk had a season at 119lbs his junior year where practically nobody touched him...and he was a pinning machine!

level of competition? is it important to face elite out of state competition like Whitford and a lot of others did? not every wrestler discussed faced the kind of competition that Montini, Marmion, Sandburg and others did.
Did CLC? Willowbrook? Is that a factor here?

[newtwowrestling]

sorry, ben, but with your loss to avelar, i can't have you at the top of the most dominant list, this year

jack allen:

#2 and top 10 nationally chris lopez 5-3, 5-2
#4 sean sullivan -pin
#5 josh dust - major
#6 jevar glover - major
#7 brian pieroth - major
#8 aaron castagna - major
#9 andrew geers - pin
#10 tom howell - little bro. brian pinned
#4/215 shaquille mcmurtry (who should have beat marchok in that semi-final match) - pin
#5 aa motley - major
#9 aa deleon - pin
#10 aa brazil - pin
# 11 aa schraidt - pin

"generally", heavyweights sometimes have lower scoring push & shoves.
that was NOT the case this year.

chris lopez = congratulations, you're very, very good.

james buss = you looked alot better this year, to bad we didn't get to see you and jack tangle

only ONE offensive takedown allowed this year, to jevar glover, and you sheepishly grinned

i would have liked to see marsden against marchok, but it was not to be.

all we can go on is who was in front of them, but, the cream rises to the top against the best competition.

[mckbln]

level of competition? is it important to face elite out of state competition like Whitford and a lot of others did? not every wrestler discussed faced the kind of competition that Montini, Marmion, Sandburg and others did.
Did CLC? Willowbrook? Is that a factor here?

We are talking about most dominant wrestler in the state. I get your point about "outside competition", etc, but first of all, the Dvorak is a VERY tough tournament and you can only wrestle who is on the mat in front of you. This isn't fantasy football.

[justaguy]

level of competition? is it important to face elite out of state competition like Whitford and a lot of others did? not every wrestler discussed faced the kind of competition that Montini, Marmion, Sandburg and others did.
Did CLC? Willowbrook? Is that a factor here?

CLC faced the toughest competition that is feasible for them. The Conant and Dvorak are two of the toughest tournaments in the state, and while the Lincoln and FVC aren't barn-burners you have to remember that CLC is a small public school and can't count on being the team they are this year forever.

[mckbln]

sorry, ben, but with your loss to avelar, i can't have you at the top of the most dominant list, this year

jack allen:

#2 and top 10 nationally chris lopez 5-3, 5-2
#4 sean sullivan -pin
#5 josh dust - major
#6 jevar glover - major
#7 brian pieroth - major
#8 aaron castagna - major
#9 andrew geers - pin
#10 tom howell - little bro. brian pinned
#4/215 shaquille mcmurtry (who should have beat marchok in that semi-final match) - pin
#5 aa motley - major
#9 aa deleon - pin
#10 aa brazil - pin
# 11 aa schraidt - pin

"generally", heavyweights sometimes have lower scoring push & shoves.
that was NOT the case this year.

chris lopez = congratulations, you're very, very good.

james buss = you looked alot better this year, to bad we didn't get to see you and jack tangle

only ONE offensive takedown allowed this year, to jevar glover, and you sheepishly grinned

i would have liked to see marsden against marchok, but it was not to be.

all we can go on is who was in front of them, but, the cream rises to the top against the best competition.

I wouldn't want to see Marsden vs Marchok...I think this year Marsden would clobber him. I would rather see Marsden vs Allen, as in Jack Allen. THAT would be a great match.

[old119]

Too complicated

CLC faced the toughest competition that is feasible for them. The Conant and Dvorak are two of the toughest tournaments in the state, and while the Lincoln and FVC aren't barn-burners you have to remember that CLC is a small public school and can't count on being the team they are this year forever.

we have school budgets, instate/ out of state/kids who didnt wrestle at state, kids who lost going up a weight, kids who were hurt.
i failed calculus...twice!

[mckbln]

I will repost this:

Marsden at Conant:
Fall 2:00, fall 1:21, fall :58 (semis), fall :28 (finals)

Dvorak:
Fall 2:49, fall :35, Maj Dec 17-5 (semis), fall 3:12 (finals) over Joe Gonzalez, LT AAA state runner-up

Fox Valley Conference:
Fall 1:20 fall 1:40 fall :58 (finals) over AAA #5 ranked Cody Churkey

AA State championship:
Fall 4:14 fall 2:21 (semis) over #6 ranked Ruano fall 2:48 (finals) over #3 ranked Kent

That is just plain brutal!

While Allen had some close matches vs Ryan, Peiroth, and Lopez, NONE of Marsden's peers, in AA or AAA were even close to him.

[justaguy]

we have school budgets, instate/ out of state/kids who didnt wrestle at state, kids who lost going up a weight, kids who were hurt.
i failed calculus...twice!

I just said criticizing CLC's schedule is unfair. This is not Blanton as a freshman stuff.

Marsden was untouchable this year, and obviously Oklahoma likes what they are seeing.