***best team ever?***

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I was anticipating more action on the Matmen forum during the quarantine. Since it’s been fairly quiet on here and I am dying of boredom, I would like to get a debate going.

I’ve seen many threads like this in the past but it’s usually in the IHSA section. What was the best IKWF team of all time?

I remember watching the Twisters in ‘91-’92. TJ Williams, Tony Davis, David Douglas and probably a few more that I'm forgetting.

Thoughts?

[oldpioneer]

Fox Valley. 98?? Tannenbaum Benefields Fanthorpe. Torres, ......others? Canty. Collum,

[Mark Weber]

twisters

i believe the twisters of 88 or 89 had to be the best. one division plus dual team title.

Afterthat its all up for debate. Fox valley? LCWC triplecrown? lotta debate

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i believe the twisters of 88 or 89 had to be the best. one division plus dual team title.

Afterthat its all up for debate. Fox valley? LCWC triplecrown? lotta debate

Who was on that twisters team in 88-89? Also, LCWC had a lot of talent come through in the late 90's that fed into the Providence dynasty.

[onyourtoes]

Martinez Elite - 2016 - 36 Qualifiers

Kids off the list that I recognize:
Novice:
Tyler Aters, Aidan Avilez, The Blades Sisters, Morley Coval, Dean Hamiti, Jimmy Liston, Damien Lopez, Cody Tavoso, Nain Vasquez

Seniors
The Curran brothers, Jacob Kaminski, Jash Labarbera, Fabian Lopez, Diego Sotelo, Noah Villarreal

Unreal

[coachperry]

Martinez Elite - 2016 - 36 Qualifiers

Kids off the list that I recognize:
Novice:
Tyler Aters, Aidan Avilez, The Blades Sisters, Morley Coval, Dean Hamiti, Jimmy Liston, Damien Lopez, Cody Tavoso, Nain Vasquez

Seniors
The Curran brothers, Jacob Kaminski, Jash Labarbera, Fabian Lopez, Diego Sotelo, Noah Villarreal

Unreal

Was this the year they lost to bolingbrook jr raiders? The raider team that year had a hammer line up of kids that year.

[CONDOR]

The 1988 Harvey Twisters.

[SPARTAN DAD]

Was this the year they lost to bolingbrook jr raiders? The raider team that year had a hammer line up of kids that year.

If my memory serves me well.... No, that was not the same year. I think the raiders had beat them the year before and it was close dual. This team also had Cameron Johnson, zeik marshal and the smith brothers. I’m sure I’m still forgetting a few others. They were for sure the DEEPEST team ever assembled. They lost to Tinley park in a choke job by the coaches. I think they put in all their backups and towards the end it was too late. It came down to the last match. They had a bunch of state champions that year and I think they won novice and senior in Rockford too.

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Track has results from 2007 and up.

66
Aters, Tyler
70
Krier, Brandon
70
Tavoso, Cody
74
Mendez, Angel
74
Poniatowski, Matthew
79
Curran, Danny
84
Sotelo, Diego
84
Ventimilla, Alex
89
Hamiti, Dean
89
Johnson, Cameron
95
Vazquez, Nain
101
Gillum, Bradley
101
Marshall, Zeke
108
Lopez, Deon
108
Lopez, Fabian
115
Blades, Kennedy
115
Smith, Ryan
115
Villarreal, Noah
122
Certa, Jackson
122
Dabney, Qayin
122
Smith, Bryan
147
LaBarbera, Josh
156
Aguirre, Alexander
156
Avilez, Aidan
177
Aguirre, Alexis
177
Liston, Jimmy
177
Perez, Jacob
189
Kaminski, Jacob
275
Jaimes, Angel

You can tell I’m board too:/

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66
Aters, Tyler
70
Krier, Brandon
70
Tavoso, Cody
74
Mendez, Angel
74
Poniatowski, Matthew
79
Curran, Danny
84
Sotelo, Diego
84
Ventimilla, Alex
89
Hamiti, Dean
89
Johnson, Cameron
95
Vazquez, Nain
101
Gillum, Bradley
101
Marshall, Zeke
108
Lopez, Deon
108
Lopez, Fabian
115
Blades, Kennedy
115
Smith, Ryan
115
Villarreal, Noah
122
Certa, Jackson
122
Dabney, Qayin
122
Smith, Bryan
147
LaBarbera, Josh
156
Aguirre, Alexander
156
Avilez, Aidan
177
Aguirre, Alexis
177
Liston, Jimmy
177
Perez, Jacob
189
Kaminski, Jacob
275
Jaimes, Angel

:/

Impressive...I counted 4 senior state champs on that list.

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If you get a chance, check out the 2012 Twisters

Division 1 wresters:
Kordell Norfleet
Isaiah White
Travis Ford-Melton
Yaha Thomas
PJ Ogunanya
Donnell Washington

Future Division 1
Josh Ogunanya
Bilal Bailey

Also:
Kamal Bey

This team was loaded with talent and

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If you get a chance, check out the 2012 Twisters

Division 1 wresters:
Kordell Norfleet
Isaiah White
Travis Ford-Melton
Yaha Thomas
PJ Ogunanya
Donnell Washington

Future Division 1
Josh Ogunanya
Bilal Bailey

Also:
Kamal Bey

This team was loaded with talent and

1 Norfleet, Kordell Novice 108 106.6 33.0
2 White, Isaiah Senior 130 127.4 32.0
3 Ford-Melton, Travis Novice 62 61.0 29.0
4 Thomas, Yahya Novice 84 82.9 28.0
5 Bey, Kamal Senior 147 142.6 26.0
6 Ogunsanya, Peter Novice 79 77.2 23.0
7 Johnson, Hassan Novice 70 68.7 20.0
8 Bailey, Bilal Novice 84 83.6 20.0
9 White, Cameron Novice 89 87.8 16.0
10 Taylor, Mohammed Senior 84 83.0 11.0
11 Johnson, Rahman Senior 101 99.0 11.0
12 Ogunsanya, Joshua Novice 70 69.0 8.0
13 Washington, Donnell Novice 74 73.1 4.0
14 Rachal, Baan Novice 95 93.5 4.0
15 Rachal, We Novice 89 87.2 3.0
16 Pate, Justen Novice 66 65.3 2.0
17 Beasley, Martell Senior 275 232.0 2.0
18 Vercher, Tyler Novice 101 97.9 0.0
19 Watkins, Calvin Senior 166 162.9 0.0
20 Moran, Jonathan Senior 84 82.2 0.0

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2012 MFVE, they beat the twisters that year 346 to 272... novice senior combined score.

1. Madrigal, Anthony Novice 74 73.7 29.5
2 Hernandez, Jaime Novice 138 137.6 28.0
3 Renteria, Jason Novice 79 77.5 28.0
4 Embrey, John Senior 177 172.3 26.0
5 Bazaldua, Juan Novice 74 73.9 23.0
6 Vanik, Riley Novice 138 132.7 22.5
7 Kane, Devin Senior 108 107.6 22.0
8 Dudeck, Jacob Novice 101 99.5 20.0
9 Ervin, Dylan Senior 189 184.5 20.0
10 Mckenna, Sean Novice 79 77.9 17.0
11 Schickel, Anthony Novice 62 61.2 16.0
12 Jacquez, Isaac Novice 95 93.6 13.0
13 Baldridge, Cody Novice 89 87.9 12.0
14 Muscolino, Joseph Senior 138 136.8 12.0
15 Thompson, Kaleb Novice 62 61.5 11.5
16 Derain, Niko Novice 89 87.4 9.0
17 Wroblewski, Matthew Senior 130 129.2 8.0
18 Aguirre, Enrique Novice 156 146.8 6.0
19 Kedzie, Austin Novice 70 69.1 6.0
20 Sifuentes, Julio Senior 215 213.6 5.0
21 Yohe, Ryan Novice 130 127.0 4.0
22 Ellingwood, Jared Senior 95 94.1 4.0
23 Barzowski, Joshua Novice 95 93.9 3.5
24 McCaffrey, John Novice 70 69.7 2.0
25 Gonzalez, Jay-cee Novice 108 106.9 0.0
26 Garcia, Jose Senior 156 153.3 0.0
27 Piunti, Vinnie Senior 89 88.0 0

[CONDOR]

2nd best- 1999 Fox Valley WC

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[QUOTE=SPARTAN DAD;564676]2012 MFVE, they beat the twisters that year 346 to 272... novice senior combined score.

With all of those qualifiers they only had 3 champs.