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Trump has been accused of rape many times, even by his ex-wife. Statement holds true. Clinton = scum bag but Choir Boy compared to Trump who had billions to pay off women many times and chose where and when to be in the public eye.

compare the lists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ct_allegations
vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C...ct_allegations

Donald Trump dodged the draft 5 times, then claims he was a ďbrave soldierĒ for avoiding STDs. ďItís amazing, I canít even believe it. Iíve been so lucky in terms of that whole world, it is a dangerous world out there. Itís like Vietnam, sort of. It is my personal Vietnam."

Everybody knows Clinton wouldn't say anything close to the above. I could take a bad guy or scum bag as President. (ie Bruce Wolfe's famous comment on Ditka, maybe you need a bad guy sometimes) I don't think it is a prudent idea to have a delusional weirdo with the ability start a nuclear war. Trump says so many crazy things people just ignore it, know one knows when he is joking. He lies in weird ways that he has no reason to lie - ie, he said he invented the phrase "prime the pump" - his odd behavior list is endless. Is that really the best we can do?

More Trumps quotes:
ISIS:*"I know more about ISIS than the generals do." (November 2015.)
Technology:*"Technology ó nobody knows more about technology than me." (December 2018.)
Renewable energy:*"I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth."*(April 2016.)
Construction:*"[N]obody knows more about construction than I do." (May 2018.)
Debt:*"Iím the king of debt. Iím great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me." (June 2016.)
Courts: "I know more about courts than any human being on Earth." (November 2015.)


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Only God knows who is a bigger scumbag...Trump or Clinton.

Trump is far from my first choice, but I am forced to admit that he is probably doing a better job than my first choice would have. If Trump would balance the budget he would be by far the best president of my lifetime.

I have no doubt that he may be guilty of some of those allegations, but I also have no doubt that some of those allegations are made because he has deep pockets,and some are made because he is a Republican. If he is guilty of violent rape, I support the death penalty for him, but I would prefer to hang him after the end of his second term.

Clinton didn't have deep pockets, so he has half the excuses that Trump has.
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Quick And decisively? Like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan? I admit, we are great in the first period. But these have gone into sudden-death overtime! Hereís a question,Once we bomb the hell out of the country and displace thousands of people. Then what? Thatís the question no one considers in war. Then we wonder why there are refugees seeking shelter all over the world .
I would rather use Germany and Japan as the bench mark. I agree that we don't have the stomach to win a war anymore so we need to be careful about starting one. I think Trump has a very similar opinion. His Generals were pushing him to bomb Iran, but he didn't.

He was quick and decisive with ISIS...but his success stories don't get much air time.
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I would rather use Germany and Japan as the bench mark. I agree that we don't have the stomach to win a war anymore so we need to be careful about starting one. I think Trump has a very similar opinion. His Generals were pushing him to bomb Iran, but he didn't.

He was quick and decisive with ISIS...but his success stories don't get much air time.
Do you really think he is genius in so many areas? It is ridiculous to think he knows squat about war. Going bankrupt 3 times somehow makes him a budgeting genius? (He would be wealthier if he just put the money his Dad gave him into a basic stock mix) Bankruptcy not an option for the US. No US banks would lend him money anymore so now he is funded by Russian sources through German banks - that much is known, not illegal but smells bad. We are running off a giant credit card - the debt is higher than ever, and again will have to be paid by the next president. Only people with stock are doing monetarily better so hopefully you are on that side of it. I really need to stop venting on this site, and delve more into that with my time. This is a bad habit for venting, have a nice summer.
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I'm not going long and drawn out on this. If Trump is too weird for you don't vote for him. When he wins again complain all you want. He's done his job and put up with far too much for his effort. His appeal to me is he exposed and is dismantling what appears to be a criminal conspiracy in our government. I never asked him over my house for dinner.
"he exposed and is dismantling what appears to be a criminal conspiracy"

Paranoia is also weird. The only thing more tired than the Trump conspiracies is the old Clinton conspiracies. Is that why the last 7 people who went to jail associated with the govt and his campaign - all did so in service to Trump. The "Lock her up" should have been "Lock us up" - ironic. He is there putting his billions and connections to work and has nothing to show for it. I think everybody hoped he would talk about aliens since he can't keep a secret, I guess that shows we have none of those as well. There are plenty of people who can blame things on immigrants and think of 5th grade nick-names - it will be interesting to see if someone knocks beats him as the nominee - I suggest Jeff Ross, will get better knick-names and more offensive chants.
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Do you really think he is genius in so many areas? It is ridiculous to think he knows squat about war. Going bankrupt 3 times somehow makes him a budgeting genius? (He would be wealthier if he just put the money his Dad gave him into a basic stock mix) Bankruptcy not an option for the US. No US banks would lend him money anymore so now he is funded by Russian sources through German banks - that much is known, not illegal but smells bad. We are running off a giant credit card - the debt is higher than ever, and again will have to be paid by the next president. Only people with stock are doing monetarily better so hopefully you are on that side of it. I really need to stop venting on this site, and delve more into that with my time. This is a bad habit for venting, have a nice summer.
I didn't use the word genius. He is just using common sense. A Commander in Chief doesn't have to know a lot about war if he has the common sense to allow the generals to win the war and demand an unconditional surrender. That is what went wrong with the last 3 or more wars...politicians have been managing politically correct wars. Congress is supposed to declare war and Generals are supposed to win them. Congress has refused to declare war, but they have no problem micromanaging them.

Trump was loved by the liberal media when he was filing Bankruptcy. I had never heard of him until the Today show started doing wall to wall coverage about their beloved real estate developer that was in financial trouble. He was the come back kid according to them.

I am 100% with you on Trumps deficit spending, but it is not the next President that will have to pay it, it's the taxpayers that will be stuck with the bill. It will cause his presidency to end in recession.

I don't own any stocks.

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Only God knows who is a bigger scumbag...Trump or Clinton.

Trump is far from my first choice, but I am forced to admit that he is probably doing a better job than my first choice would have. If Trump would balance the budget he would be by far the best president of my lifetime.

I have no doubt that he may be guilty of some of those allegations, but I also have no doubt that some of those allegations are made because he has deep pockets,and some are made because he is a Republican. If he is guilty of violent rape, I support the death penalty for him, but I would prefer to hang him after the end of his second term.

Clinton didn't have deep pockets, so he has half the excuses that Trump has.
Math works: Clinton scumbag, Trump 5X the scumbag at least. (from the list from the links above.)

Clinton: 5 women willing to put their name on the statement.

Trump: 23 women willing to put their name on the statement.
And we know for a fact that Trump often wrote checks to make woman issues go away and or had his friend at the National Inquirer do it for him. Billionaire with a B - as in buys a lot silence.)

Trump now, is evidently the President of only the nice part or red parts. (He bad mouths Baltimore, Chicago in the past etc. - by his own advise - if he from the US he needs to go back to where he came from (the US) and fix those "infested" places. I thought that was his job...

Maybe he forgot - for median income, 95 of the 100 poorest counties were located in red states. Here are the 10 poorest, all of them in red states:

1. Owsley County, Ky.
2. Jefferson County, Miss.
3. Wolfe County, Ky.
4. Brooks County, Texas
5. McCreary County, Ky.
6. Hudspeth County, Texas
7. Hancock County, Tenn.
8. Jackson County, Ky.
9. Clay County, Ky.
10. Holmes County, Miss.

For percentage of residents in poverty, we found that 93 of the 100 poorest counties were in red states.

(Note, when I said coming to the US illegally makes you a criminal, so does going 56 in a 55 miles zone. History and math dictates we need to all the people we can get. 2/3 of the world population is in a circle around China and India...and are using our own formula to catch and surpass us.)
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I definitely agree with most of that article. I am not going to break it down line by line, but in my opinion spending = socialism...Trump is a big spender. Conservatives are just starting to wake up to that fact...hopefully his base will smack him upside his head.
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Math works: Clinton scumbag, Trump 5X the scumbag at least. (from the list from the links above.)

Clinton: 5 women willing to put their name on the statement.

Trump: 23 women willing to put their name on the statement.
And we know for a fact that Trump often wrote checks to make woman issues go away and or had his friend at the National Inquirer do it for him. Billionaire with a B - as in buys a lot silence.)

Trump now, is evidently the President of only the nice part or red parts. (He bad mouths Baltimore, Chicago in the past etc. - by his own advise - if he from the US he needs to go back to where he came from (the US) and fix those "infested" places. I thought that was his job...

Maybe he forgot - for median income, 95 of the 100 poorest counties were located in red states. Here are the 10 poorest, all of them in red states:

1. Owsley County, Ky.
2. Jefferson County, Miss.
3. Wolfe County, Ky.
4. Brooks County, Texas
5. McCreary County, Ky.
6. Hudspeth County, Texas
7. Hancock County, Tenn.
8. Jackson County, Ky.
9. Clay County, Ky.
10. Holmes County, Miss.

For percentage of residents in poverty, we found that 93 of the 100 poorest counties were in red states.

(Note, when I said coming to the US illegally makes you a criminal, so does going 56 in a 55 miles zone. History and math dictates we need to all the people we can get. 2/3 of the world population is in a circle around China and India...and are using our own formula to catch and surpass us.)
I concede...Trump is an inarticulate scumbag. Clinton is an articulate scumbag.

We don't know what its like to be a billionaire, and have supermodels throwing themselves at us, Trump obviously has made many immoral choices. On the other side of that coin, I don't believe all the women around him are saints that just think he's "hot" and don't care about his money.

Your list is incomplete...and don't forget about the list of suspicious deaths around the Clintons.

https://ijr.com/trumps-accusers-are-...exual-victims/

https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/0...-check-it-out/

Did he say anything about Baltimore that is untrue, or was it just politically incorrect?

I am not going to dismiss your poor county study outright, but I won't automatically accept it ether. If that survey does not factor in the cost of living it is a garbage survey. I can easily live on half the income that I would need to earn if I lived in Cook County. The other obvious question is, What are the populations of those counties? If you put all 100 counties in the same bucket would they have as many residents as Cook County alone? Your top 10 counties only have 106,205 residents in total. Cook County has 5.2 million residents. Over 800,000 of them are in poverty in Cook County. When you copy and paste someone else's work you should put it in quotation marks and post a link so we can read it.

When we were the lone super power in the world, 2/3 of the world population was in a circle around China and India. They are catching us because we gave them the formula with bad trade deals. The United States of America was one of the smallest, youngest countries on the planet, but somehow we became the lone super power, and we were responsible for most of the worlds innovation. The credit goes to the founding fathers that gave us the constitution that defines what the government cannot do. Our greatness had nothing to do with sheer numbers of people. It had everything to do with the freedoms that were granted to us, and the protections guaranteed by the constitution. Free people, allowed to keep more of the fruits of their labor will out perform any government at anything.
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I concede...Trump is an inarticulate scumbag. Clinton is an articulate scumbag.

We don't know what its like to be a billionaire, and have supermodels throwing themselves at us, Trump obviously has made many immoral choices. On the other side of that coin, I don't believe all the women around him are saints that just think he's "hot" and don't care about his money.

Your list is incomplete...and don't forget about the list of suspicious deaths around the Clintons.

https://ijr.com/trumps-accusers-are-...exual-victims/

https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/0...-check-it-out/

Did he say anything about Baltimore that is untrue, or was it just politically incorrect?

I am not going to dismiss your poor county study outright, but I won't automatically accept it ether. If that survey does not factor in the cost of living it is a garbage survey. I can easily live on half the income that I would need to earn if I lived in Cook County. The other obvious question is, What are the populations of those counties? If you put all 100 counties in the same bucket would they have as many residents as Cook County alone? Your top 10 counties only have 106,205 residents in total. Cook County has 5.2 million residents. Over 800,000 of them are in poverty in Cook County. When you copy and paste someone else's work you should put it in quotation marks and post a link so we can read it.

When we were the lone super power in the world, 2/3 of the world population was in a circle around China and India. They are catching us because we gave them the formula with bad trade deals. The United States of America was one of the smallest, youngest countries on the planet, but somehow we became the lone super power, and we were responsible for most of the worlds innovation. The credit goes to the founding fathers that gave us the constitution that defines what the government cannot do. Our greatness had nothing to do with sheer numbers of people. It had everything to do with the freedoms that were granted to us, and the protections guaranteed by the constitution. Free people, allowed to keep more of the fruits of their labor will out perform any government at anything.
It is nice to be a superpower. The US ranks average in regards to freedom.
Its about money. (& Math / Economists dictate that we need the immigrants to stay the richest so let them in.) This US govt link shows U.S. military spending in that year exceeding the next seven countries COMBINED: China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, France, the United Kingdom, India, and Germany.

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/us-spends...tries-combined

I trust the reason we do is a good reason, probably because we sell the most arms also. I just don't trust the weirdo at the top, yesterday while signing a bill he was talking about being there with the 1st responders on 9/11. Just like he claimed he had hundreds of friends there. It is more than exaggerating it is oddly delusional. No one ever saw him. The closest thing is an interview from him looking out the window of his tower and him inappropriately bragging about how now he now had the tallest building in NY. It just seems dangerous to have him in a position of power, and how he oddly calls it "his" Army etc. I could accept a politician with his political positions, but I differ from his supporters who accept the weirdo-ism as part of the package. It seems like a dis-qualifier, they should have chose Rand Paul or somebody who is close in views but not such as consistently delusional, ie a weirdo. (I don't think the stock prices will matter as much if we get weirdo'd into a war.)

"I was down there also, but I'm not considering myself a first responder," Trump said. "But I was down there. I spent a lot of time down there with you."

Uh, what?
Let's be clear about what Trump is doing here: He is associating himself -- very closely -- with the men and women who were the first to respond to planes being crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. People who continue to suffer health issues due to their jobs.

I can take the provocation, but this is pure continuing self delusion. When something really bad happens we can't say we didn't see the neon warning signs.
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