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Old 05-22-2019
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The Burroughs Project

WELCOME TO THE BURROUGHS PROJECT


We at The Burroughs Project are dedicated to discussing how Isaiah Martinez (hereinafter "IMAR") can beat the all-time great Jordan Burroughs at Final X on June 15 in Lincoln, Nebraska. To do this, we have assembled a group of the best wrestling analysts from across the globe, including Ben Askren and Sun Tzu. The first order of business, of course, is to know our enemy.



KNOW YOUR ENEMY

Jordan Burroughs is a medium-sized land mammal of the Family: Hominidae, with a scientific species name of Homo Sapien. He is believed to be between the ages of 30 and 60, and weigh from 150 to 300 pounds. He enjoys cooking salmon and pineapple, which he apparently ingests at some point.

Burroughs will have a hometown crowd and home cooking, including that tasty salmon and pineapple dinner. He has experience in age, and in having wrestled many tough freestyle matches while facing great pressure. He is very quick and has the advantage of having won the last Final X matchup with IMAR by a 2-0 count. So, how does IMAR beat him this time?



Our panel of experts has determined that IMAR must wrestle like a Russian. Trying to out-quick Burroughs, even at his advanced age, is not a winner. On the other hand, the major problems that Burroughs has had in the past have been caused by Russian wrestlers.

PROBLEMS WITH RUSSIANS

Burroughs' first World Championship loss came to Russian Denis Tsargush. His first loss in the Olympics was to Russian Aniuar Geduev, and his last loss in a World Championship came to current World Champion Zaurbek Sidakov, a Russian.

THE SIDAKOV MATCH

Let us look at the match between Burroughs and Sidakov. As you can see from the video, Sidakov is taller and leaner than IMAR. He almost looks gangly. On the other hand, he is an underhook specialist like the ILLINI legend.

At the beginning of the match it is apparent that Sidakov wants to tie up with Burroughs. Burroughs lets him. At the :31 second mark, the Russian has his first underhook dug in. Within a couple of seconds, tries a shrug that looks amazingly like the one in this IMAR video for Rudis:


Sidakov is unsuccessful because his shrug is too powerful, and Burroughs is flung across the mat. This is evidence that the great Jordan Burroughs can be susceptible to the short offense. Up to this point, Burroughs has attempted two ankle grabs, which weren't true ankle picks. He just reached out and tried to grab the Russian's ankle. The ref is not buying it, and gives Burroughs a first caution for stalling at :49.

(Doubtful that IMAR can count on something like that in Lincoln.).

At 1:14, Sidakov digs in his second underhook. At 1:40, the ref puts Jordan Burroughs on the clock. At 1:54, Sidakov digs in his third underhook. While still on the clock, Burroughs tries a shrug, but doesn't get much separation.

This is where Sidakov commits wrestling malpractice and should have lost the match:



How many times have we seen a Burrough's re-attack while sitting on his haunches? At a minimum, Sidakov should've had his hands up to push Burroughs to the side. Defend yourself at all times! Instead of going up 1-0, the Russian gives up the takedown and goes down 0-2.

According to Google, a snake has a striking distance equal to a third to a half the snake's length. The striking distance of a Jordan Burroughs is up to eight-feet away.


At 2:35, Sidakov is jamming in his fourth underhook, and he is doing it with authority, like IMAR. By 2:38, he's running a head-pinch and moving quickly around Burroughs who is trying to step over him. Burroughs fails, and Sidakov secures the takedown via head-pinch. Here's a video of Ben Askren teaching the IMAR head-pinch:



At 4:38 of the Burroughs/Sidakov video, the Russian again commits malpractice and is not ready for a Burroughs re-attack. For this one, he wisely stepped out, giving up only one point. This gives the American the 3-2 lead. Sidakov attempts a sloppy double at 5:45 and ends up in a front headlock for a few energy-draining seconds. That's not how you score on Burroughs!


At 7:12, Sidakov proves me a liar and shoots a very ugly high-crotch/single leg from distance and scores. Burroughs definitely lost a step there. Burroughs comes back and scores with 8.4 seconds left on the clock with a snatch single that he turns into a double. That gives him the lead. Sidakov's winning move was to dive at Burrough's ankle, work his way up, and with time expiring, carry the American off the mat.

CONCLUSION

Burroughs was susceptible to the short offense of an under-hooker. Sidakov was remarkable in his ability to hit those moves with violence and speed. On the other hand, the Russian was dim-witted when it came to Burroughs' re-attacks. Sidakov disguised much of his offense with hand-fighting. Later in the match, Burroughs became susceptible to leg attacks.

Although the transitive property is not too useful, it can provide some encouragement. During the last World Cup, IMAR beat the Iranian by the same margin that World Champion Sidakov beat the Iranian.

NEXT UP FOR THE BURROUGHS PROJECT: Aniuar Geduev
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Old 05-22-2019
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One drill that I would run with IMAR would deal exclusively with Jordan Burroughs' re-attacks. He scores a lot of points using the element of surprise on re-shots. You are so busy patting yourself on the back for defending his original shot, you don't protect yourself as he springs across the mat from his haunches or from his knees.

First, I'd make sure IMAR had knee pads and soccer shin guards on. Then, I'd have him face two quick, athletic guys (maybe Emery Parker and Coach Poeta). Have one guy shoot in, then as soon as IMAR defends it and before he can completely stand up, have the other guy dive at his ankles.

Burroughs scored most of his points against Sidakov (3) with these re-shots.

GO IMAR!!!
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Your posts never lack effort. When is that match series? How does this effect the Olympics?
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June 15th.... Winner goes to the Olympics
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One drill that I would run with IMAR would deal exclusively with Jordan Burroughs' re-attacks. He scores a lot of points using the element of surprise on re-shots. You are so busy patting yourself on the back for defending his original shot, you don't protect yourself as he springs across the mat from his haunches or from his knees.

First, I'd make sure IMAR had knee pads and soccer shin guards on. Then, I'd have him face two quick, athletic guys (maybe Emery Parker and Coach Poeta). Have one guy shoot in, then as soon as IMAR defends it and before he can completely stand up, have the other guy dive at his ankles.

Burroughs scored most of his points against Sidakov (3) with these re-shots.

GO IMAR!!!
It would be poetic for I-Mar to beat Burroughs, the man who kept Poeta from 2 NCAA titles.
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June 15th.... Winner goes to the Olympics
Is it? I thought the trials were next year? This is for worlds.
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Sorry yes my bad, the match is June 15th you are correct on the other part, my head was up my arse
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It would be poetic for I-Mar to beat Burroughs, the man who kept Poeta from 2 NCAA titles.
It would be ultra poetic for IMAR to beat Burroughs by wrestling from his knees, like Burroughs did most of his title match against Poeta. What's good for the goose....

A couple other notes before we break down the Geduev match. First, there are people at themat.com claiming that Burroughs won't let IMAR dig in his underhooks. Well, in the Sidakov match, the Russian dug in at least 8 underhooks. He was tenacious about it.

I think IMAR will want to be in Burroughs' face as much of the match as possible, which will mean using his most comfortable weapon. If you stay in his face--and I mean right in his face the whole match--there is a greater chance that Burroughs (a) won't wind up one of those double legs for exposure points, (b) will get tired, or (c) will get flustered.

Moreover, within 40 seconds of the start of the first match between IMAR and Burroughs at Final X last year, we see an underhook. I think he didn't do it sooner because he tried a head-pinch first and Burroughs took a shot!

Second, I want to analyze the first Final X between these two guys, but I don't know how much value that will have. It was almost like IMAR was happy to be there last year. (Like Illinois State in the NCAA basketball tournament). This year, IMAR's riding high, just got engaged, and dominated an old rival. I think the intensity (which was pretty good last year) will be at an entirely different level.



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Jordan Burroughs versus Aniuar Geduev

The first thing to note is that Geduev is the exact opposite of Sidakov. The latter is lanky and almost seems goofy-footed. Geduev looks more like IMAR if IMAR was on steroids. Moreover, Geduev is more of a brawler, while Sidakov is a tactician.

This match occurred in the 2016 Olympics, and it had lasted all of 9 seconds before the ref had to warn Burroughs for slapping Geduev in the head (obvious foul) and then with the match stopped, Geduev shoved Burroughs in the chest (very obvious foul).

Within the first thirty seconds, Geduev has a front headlock on Jordan Burroughs and tries to walk it around. He is unsuccessful. That had to take a lot out of the American. Nothing much happens for the rest of the first minute except that the Russian's head slapping opens up a cut on Burroughs' forehead.

After blood time, Burroughs shoots a slow single and gets to eat mat in another front headlock. Geduev doesn't try to roll with the headpinch, he just tries to walk it around. He is unsuccessful. But it must be taking a toll on Burroughs.

(For the first 1:42 of the match, Geduev has kept Burroughs distant with head pushes, or he's kept him up close with tight ties.)

Even with nothing but defensive front headlocks, it is Burroughs who is put on the shot clock. He tried to score but couldn't. Russia 1; USA 0. It is not until 2:31 in the match that Burroughs touches one of Geduev's legs. That was a touch and not a grab.

Geduev jumps the gun on the restart (you can see him shooting and the ref has just started to raise his hand, and by the time he's into Burroughs' legs, the ref's hand comes down). This weak-kneed ref let him get away with it! He pulls in a single and makes Burroughs dance around for a few seconds before time runs out on the first period.

In the second frame, Burroughs finally wakes up and begins to wrestle. Still, Geduev keeps position and ends up pushing the American out for one point. Russia 2; USA 0. Twice Burroughs gets distracted because Geduev got him in the Roman Knuckle locks with his fingers, and while Burroughs was trying to wave Geduev's hand off of his, the Russian shot single legs. The second one he pushed Burroughs out for another point. Russia 3; USA 0.


(While this is all going on, there are multiple blood time outs for Burroughs' cut. Geduev gets at least 5 minutes of rest during the match.)

With 47 seconds left and down 0-3, Burroughs finally snags a single leg and lifts it up. Geduev leaps away. With ten seconds left, Burroughs finally goes behind on a single. (Geduev must have thought that was the safe thing to do.). Final 3-2.

CONCLUSION Geduev did not score with the front headlock, but it won him this match. It put a lot of stress on Burroughs and sapped a lot of his energy. A winning match from IMAR will have at least a couple of front headlocks like this:



Perhaps walk it around for a little bit then arch for exposure? Depends on IMAR's gameplan: Tire him out or go for the big points. Seems that the old Roman Knuckle lock is a bit of a pet peeve for Burroughs. He gave up a single leg twice trying to free his hand. It only cost him one point, but in a 3-2 match, one point is very dear.


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Sorry yes my bad, the match is June 15th you are correct on the other part, my head was up my arse
To narrow it down the best we can, we know that Session 2 in Lincoln on June 15th starts at 6:00 pm. I imagine this is Central Time Zone, but the idjits didn't specify. IMAR's first best-of-three match with Burroughs will be the headliner:

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Session Two – 6:00 p.m.

Bout 1: Women’s FS 62 kg – World bronze medalst Mallory Velte (Sacramento, Calif./Titan Mercury WC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Kayla Miracle (Iowa City, Iowa/Sunkist Kids/Hawkeye WC)
Bout 2: Women’s FS 53 kg – World silver medalist Sarah Hildebrandt (Colorado Springs, Colo./New York AC/OTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion vs. Katherine Shai (Denver, Colo./Titan Mercury WC)
Bout 3: Women’s FS 76 kg – World champion Adeline Gray (Denver, Colo./New York AC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Precious Bell (Lancaster, Calif./unattached)
Bout 4: Men’s GR 130 kg – World silver medalist Adam Coon (Ann Arbor, Mich./New York AC/Cliff Keen WC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Cohlton Schultz (Parker, Colo./Sunkist Kids/EAP)
Bout 5: Men’s FS 61 kg – World bronze medalist Joe Colon (Fresno, Calif./Titan Mercury WC/Valley RTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Tyler Graff (Princeton, N.J./Titan Mercury WC/NJRTC)
Bout 6: Men’s FS 97 kg – World silver medalist Kyle Snyder (Columbus, Ohio/Titan Mercury WC/Ohio RTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Kyven Gadson (Ames, Iowa/Titan Mercury WC/Cyclone RTC)
Bout 7: Men’s FS 70 kg – U.S. Open champion Ryan Deakin (Broomfield, Colo./Titan Mercury WC/Chicago RTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion James Green (Lincoln, Neb./Sunkist Kids/Nebraska WTC)
Bout 8: Men’s FS 57 kg – U.S. Open champion Daton Fix (Sand Springs, Okla./Titan Mercury WC/Cowboy RTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Thomas Gilman (Iowa City, Iowa/Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC)
Bout 9: Men’s FS 74 kg – World bronze medalist Jordan Burroughs (Lincoln, Neb./Sunkist Kids/Nebraska WTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Isaiah Martinez (Champaign, Ill./Titan Mercury WC/Illinois RTC)

Max Nowry and Ellis Coleman are co-headlining Session 1 at Rutgers at 12 noon (Eastern Time Zone, I presume):

FINAL X: RUTGERS
At the RAC in Piscataway, N.J., Saturday, June 8

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Session One – 12:00 noon

Bout 1: Men’s GR 87 kg – U.S. Open champion Joe Rau (Chicago, Ill./Titan Mercury WC/Chicago RTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Ben Provisor (State College, Pa./New York AC/Nittany Lion WC)
Bout 2: Women’s FS 72 kg – U.S. Olympic champion Alyvia Fiske (Napa, Calif./Titan Mercury WC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Victoria Francis (Litchfield, Ill./Titan Mercury WC)
Bout 3: Men’s GR 82 kg – U.S. Open champion Kendrick Sanders (Marquette, Mich./New York AC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion John Stefanowicz (Camp LeJeune, N.C./U.S. Marine Corps)
Bout 4: Women’s FS 50 kg –U.S. Open champion Whitney Conder (Colorado Springs, Colo./U.S. Army WCAP) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Victoria Anthony (Tempe, Ariz./Sunkist Kids)
Bout 5: Men’s GR 55 kg – U.S. Open champion Max Nowry (Colorado Springs, Colo./U.S. Army WCAP) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Brady Koontz (Plover, Wis./Ohio RTC)
Bout 6: Men’s GR 67 kg – U.S. Open champion Ellis Coleman (Colorado Springs, Colo./U.S. Army WCAP) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Jamel Johnson (Camp LeJeune, N.C./U.S. Marine Corps)
Bout 7: Women’s FS 57 kg – U.S. Open champion Becka Leathers (Chapel Hill, N.C./Titan Mercury WC/Tarheel RTC) vs. World Team Trials Challenge Tournament champion Jenna Burkert (Colorado Springs, Colo./U.S. Army WCAP)

GO IRTC!!!
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